Yodaweed
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FFOF is known for fungus gnats, if you want quality soil that's premade i'd look into build a soil, much higher quality than any of these products.
Fox Farm Happy Frog and Ocean Forest ratio
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Tx-Peanutt
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I would have to agree I always use fox farms OF and HF and no nats in there.. Might be where he’s buying it from... Where I buy they store it inside so there ain’t no problems
Tx-Peanutt
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I just recently bought there flowering top dress from them gonna do it with my next run have u used it before???
Yodaweed
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I make my own top dresses but i have used their soil and compost, and it's good stuff.
Tx-Peanutt
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I’m gonna try it out I’ve heard nothing but good stuff about them even from dr who so I know it has to be descent
MichiganMedGrower
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Where and how it is stored is the main factor for my potting soil choice.
Tx-Peanutt
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Me to which is why I started buying mine at the local feed store it’s the only soil they store inside... I’m guessing he knows that it does matter...
_Waldo_
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I appreciate the info good sir.
MichiganMedGrower
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It’s misinformation you are appreciating. Bad storage is how pottin soil gets infected. And then bad gardening practices like overwatering and over crowding.
Yodaweed
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It's not just that, also compost/soil that has been infested with gnat larvae will have that problem. If you just google fox farm and gnat you will get plenty of results.
MichiganMedGrower
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Or I can just know that I have gone through pallets of the stuff now and never seen a gnat come from a bag yet.
The gnats or eggs do not live in dry soil. You know. Like in a properly stored bag.
It is 100% storage or grower error.
UncleBuck
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FFOF has tons of fungus gnats, it is something growers need to be aware of
MichiganMedGrower
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If you saw them you are at fault or the place you got it stored it improperly. They can not live in a dry bag of soil.
But I expect you to propagate forum myth.
UncleBuck
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soil doesn't get dried out and bagged, it is bagged moist
Olive Drab Green
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Elemental from Roots Organics is your Cal/Mag, and it’s fish protein-based.
MichiganMedGrower
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OF has air holes and is pretty dry when the bag gets to me. And it would have to be wet not just moist to attract gnats.
Overwatering and overcrowding is what brings gnats. They don’t come from the soil. They come from the surrounding environment.
Why argue if you really don’t know?
UncleBuck
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your experience is anecdotal, everyone else is saying FFOF has fungus gnats. you are outnumbered like 70 to 1
TrailBlazer12747
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Ocean forest is not too hot of a soil. It's never burned a seedling. My plants thrive in it. I've mixed it with happy frog 50/50 and it was great. I've yet to have any gnat problems other than when I grow outdoors with it. The gnats are all over it outdoors. Great soil. Don't listen to the morons like @UncleBuck
MichiganMedGrower
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Actually the experience in the forum is anecdotal compared to the millions of bags they keep selling nationwide.
Experienced Growers know most of the crap said here is myth. And anyone not taking forum advice blind would have likely read a Grow or gardening book and they all warn of soil storage.
It is almost never the products causing any of the problems.
Tx-Peanutt
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I would have to say 70-2 because I have never had fungus gnats