Tactics Employed by the Democratic Establishment

since1991

since1991

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Padawanbater2 said:
That's not a valid source of information, man

See if you can corroborate that story from any other source and quote it here. The key is multiple sources. If I find a story that isn't corroborated by more than one other site, I more than likely won't post it.
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They all lean a little left or right this days. And its sickening. Used to not be like that.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Padawanbater2 said:
Nobody said anything about voter registration in all states, that's just another strawman

In the state of New York in 2016, voters had to change their registration to Democrat by October 2015 in order to vote in the Democratic primary that took place 7 months later on April, 9, 2016. Bernie Sanders had virtually zero name recognition in October, 2015. His campaign didn't begin to pick up steam until later in the primary. Why would there be a rule that someone needs to be registered to vote 7 months before the primary takes place, and why would the Democratic party deny those that wish to participate in the democratic process the right to vote for the candidate they support based on their lack of voter registration 7 months ahead of time?

They did it because they know setting the voter registration date so far ahead of time limits the ability for more obscure candidates to compete successfully because they have less notoriety and name recognition and less money to spend early on in their campaigns. It effectively handicaps their progressive opponents campaign's before they ever get off the ground.

This is why NY pushed Dem. registration to mid October in order to vote in the Democratic primary in November, more than a YEAR out. Why would they do this? There's no other rational explanation. They want to promote the ability of the establishment incumbent, Joe Crowley, to keep his seat while limiting the ability for progressive challenger Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to take it. They're doing this by limiting the democratic process. By making sure less people are legally allowed to vote, because they know the less new registered voters who are allowed to vote, the better their results in the election.

Also why the CA Assembly and Gov. Brown pushed CA to the front of the line in 2020, because they know whoever wins CA has the best chance of winning the Democratic primary. A win in CA, the state with the most delegates, will put whoever wins in the limelight like super Tuesday 2016 did with Clinton. That's the goal. Then, establishment media can promote their candidate and denigrate their competition, just like 2016 for another slight edge of advantage in the competition. Add all the little advantages up and you steal the primary, again.


The way I've described it here, if this eventually happens, I wouldn't vote for Harris. If progressives get cheated out of the primary like they did in 2016, I won't vote Democrat, even against Trump. If any of you take issue with that, don't promote Democratic candidates that have to cheat to win. Don't deny the evidence when it's right in front of your face. The entire progressive wing of the Democratic party is watching very closely, don't fuck this up because it's on you if you do. If you truly believed in your ideals, there would be no need to encourage unfair advantages in order to win. If you can't win on a fair playing field, you damn sure won't win the general election.
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Along with all the other rules and games, it adds up to the end of the American Democracy.

I'm fighting for the right of the average American voter to have their voice actually count, as opposed to those who support 'their' team by any means fair or foul. That's corrosive to the very idea of participatory democracy and as such is reprehensible.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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ttystikk said:
Along with all the other rules and games, it adds up to the end of the American Democracy.

I'm fighting for the right of the average American voter to have their voice actually count, as opposed to those who support 'their' team by any means fair or foul. That's corrosive to the very idea of participatory democracy and as such is reprehensible.
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That's a great point. If I'm wrong, I want people to tell me I'm wrong. I don't want to be right based on the evidence the team I organized to tell me I'm right tells me I'm right.. I want to be proven wrong because I will never be able to advance my position by being wrong. I need to be right to be successful in any endeavour.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Padawanbater2 said:
That's a great point. If I'm wrong, I want people to tell me I'm wrong. I don't want to be right based on the evidence the team I organized to tell me I'm right tells me I'm right.. I want to be proven wrong because I will never be able to advance my position by being wrong. I need to be right to be successful in any endeavour.
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Then there's all this;

The running list of anti democratic institutions in America;
  • unlimited campaign funding by interests who need not disclose their sources
  • allowing the political parties to choose candidates irrespective of the votes of their constituents
  • voter suppression activities
  • electoral college shenanigans
  • gerrymandering
Therefore, I submit that American Democracy is already dead.

Inverted totalitarianism is a term that's gained traction in describing the current political situation;
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism

We have replaced the vote of the citizen with a system that allows the wealthy to manipulate and control our political system- even to the point of making all such bribes- err, 'contributions'- fully tax deductible.

If this state of affairs is allowed to stand, the end of our country is in view.
 
ArcticGranite

ArcticGranite

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Padawanbater2 said:
That's not a valid source of information, man

See if you can corroborate that story from any other source and quote it here. The key is multiple sources. If I find a story that isn't corroborated by more than one other site, I more than likely won't post it.
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Menendez meeting request was 'unusual,' Sebelius testifies



http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/10/kathleen_sebelius_says_she_found_menendez_meeting.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/10/03/politics/kathleen-sebelius-robert-menendez-trial/index.html

https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2017/10/04/sebelius-menendez-pushed-me-to-fix-medicare-case-for-doc-pal/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/congressional/obama-cabinet-sebelius-menendez-bribery-medicare-melgen-20171003.html?amphtml=y
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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ArcticGranite said:
Menendez meeting request was 'unusual,' Sebelius testifies



http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/10/kathleen_sebelius_says_she_found_menendez_meeting.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/10/03/politics/kathleen-sebelius-robert-menendez-trial/index.html

https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2017/10/04/sebelius-menendez-pushed-me-to-fix-medicare-case-for-doc-pal/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/congressional/obama-cabinet-sebelius-menendez-bribery-medicare-melgen-20171003.html?amphtml=y
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A bunch of Google links to nazi sites or phishing malware? No thanks

Any thoughts on kasowitz paying off vance to drop the felony fraud case against ivanka and junior? Swampy as fuck. Illegal too
 
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