10,000 Watt 10 Plant 13 Gallon Rdwc [3d Model Incl. Inside Thread]

ttystikk

ttystikk

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CCCmints said:
I would rather have cool lights with higher efficiency and longer life with a heater than the alternative.
I see lights running cool as a big positive.
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He's not talking about lights running cool, he's talking about the room not being warm enough for the plants to transpire at the optimum level.
 
BabyLobsterito

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ttystikk said:
Lol I know, right?

I get crazy frost on my LED buds. I think it has a lot to do with improved spectrum.
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I too have noticed an increase in overall "frost" using LEDs. And I agree with the spectrum aspect as well... LEDs are opening a whole new door. We all just gotta get our feet across the threshold :bigjoint:
 
BabyLobsterito

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nxsov180db said:
I get crazy frost as well with LED, but does anybody else notice that with COB's the tops of the plants turn purple to some degree no matter the strain?
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I'm honestly on my first grow with a COB in an experiment setup, and we just put another 2 COB setup in rotation today...
But the Mendo Breath I have running in the experiment setup is purpling on the top of the colas only, and the temps (especially up at the canopy level) are too high to be the usual "cold temp" purple pheno expression... Won't be able to verify if it happens with the new run for a while as we just started them (clones, The White). But if I remember to document them with photos I may post them to see if anybody else is open to discussing the topic.

For the record, the "experiment setup" was not my idea or design at all, it was designed by a friend who wants to grow with my roommate and I, but he was too stubborn to listen to our suggestions, so I'm finishing the plant it has in it solely to show him/prove a point.
 
ttystikk

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BabyLobsterito said:
I'm honestly on my first grow with a COB in an experiment setup, and we just put another 2 COB setup in rotation today...
But the Mendo Breath I have running in the experiment setup is purpling on the top of the colas only, and the temps (especially up at the canopy level) are too high to be the usual "cold temp" purple pheno expression... Won't be able to verify if it happens with the new run for a while as we just started them (clones, The White). But if I remember to document them with photos I may post them to see if anybody else is open to discussing the topic.
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What's the room temperature during night and day?
 
BabyLobsterito

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ttystikk said:
What's the room temperature during night and day?
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During the day, ambient room temperature is between 72-75F, depending on what our apartment's thermostat is set at (apartment design was NOT friendly to the AC routing) but the inside of the growing "container" (let's call it that) is roughly 77F or so, as our friend (Who has a degree in computer engineering, and this eyesore has a micro controller automating it) decided a thermal sensor wasn't important, so I can't accuratley tell the temperature because getting inside requires taking the entire top of the setup off.

Night temps are 70-72, as I also have my 4' 8 lamp T5 in the same room, running one or both bays of lights, depending on what i'm keeping under it (I propagate vegetables indoors as well). There is a possibility that the temps have been dropping lower than 70 though, now that I'm sitting here typing...
 
BabyLobsterito

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I have to mention that my equipment isn't as adequate as I'd like, so my ability to micromanage and maintain consistency is limited and requires my attention 24/7. Thus, I am not so much as focused on growing my own crop at the time being, I'm focusing on deeper research and helping my roommate through his first grow. I am by no means an expert, nor do I want to give the impression that I think I am. But I have been through all stages of growing, as my mentor was operating a large-commercial scale medical(think 2012-13 paranoid California "large scale commercial", we had a few sites but nothing as big as today's standards) and he taught me as much as he could in the time we got to work together. But I want to learn as much as possible, hence why I'm here.
 
ttystikk

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BabyLobsterito said:
During the day, ambient room temperature is between 72-75F, depending on what our apartment's thermostat is set at (apartment design was NOT friendly to the AC routing) but the inside of the growing "container" (let's call it that) is roughly 77F or so, as our friend (Who has a degree in computer engineering, and this eyesore has a micro controller automating it) decided a thermal sensor wasn't important, so I can't accuratley tell the temperature because getting inside requires taking the entire top of the setup off.

Night temps are 70-72, as I also have my 4' 8 lamp T5 in the same room, running one or both bays of lights, depending on what i'm keeping under it (I propagate vegetables indoors as well). There is a possibility that the temps have been dropping lower than 70 though, now that I'm sitting here typing...
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Daytime temps should be in the low to mid 80s.

If your computer geek buddy doesn't think a thermometer inside the growing space is important, it's time he was fired. Lol
 
BabyLobsterito

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ttystikk said:
Daytime temps should be in the low to mid 80s.

If your computer geek buddy doesn't think a thermometer inside the growing space is important, it's time he was fired. Lol
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I agree, I like my daytime temps warmer. I failed to mention that this jackass also only put an exhaust fan/diy carbon filter on one side, no fresh intake... also no way to control RH because his "sealed" design doesn't seal worth shit.

You have no idea how embarrassed I am to admit on here that this is what I'm running lol. Makes me look like a terrible noob, but it's the only way to get the point across to him, so I'm just taking the L for it. He'll learn that his tech knowledge doesn't mean he's going to grow top shelf off minimal input (and effort, I take care of the plant with what resources I have) and because he has a college degree. Albeit, he is extremely knowledgeable of electronics and it helps when it comes to certain things.
 
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nxsov180db said:
^^^ I am adding a bunch of 3000k t8 led strips to one of my current grows (without the diffusers) below the canopy pointed up to help with lower bud growth and to hopefully get them to finish as the same time as the tops.
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My roommate and I have both been curious about the possibilities of using LED strips inverted to supplement growth from the bottom up as well, but decided to save it for a future project. I'm definitely intrigued now that you have brought it up. Are you documenting at all?
And what spectrum are you using for your main light source, if you don't mind me asking?
 
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nxsov180db said:
I use 3500k citizen clu048-1212 COBs for main lighting. I'm not exactly documenting it anywhere, the grow is already 3 weeks into flower. I bought a 25-pack of the 3000k led t8's off amazon for $150. They're 18 watts each and I plan on using them all. I'm trying to hit 6+ pounds per 4x8 tent but the closest I'm at is this current harvest although I'm still waiting to finish drying the lower buds I'm pretty sure I'm at around 5ish pounds this time around and that's from seed 3 different strains so obviously clones from 1 strain would do better. I'm hoping this under lighting is the ticket.
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Gotcha. Just curious.
I'm definitely interested to hear about your results. How many tents do you run?
 
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