Stltoed
Well-Known Member
There are a few topics that stir people up on these forums. Defoliation really seems to get em going. Lights are another. Even amoung LED growers there is unrest. Its COBs or nothing seems to be popular. I use Black Dog and love them, but theyre "blurple" so not well loved but the COB set.Most, yes, but I've seen a few with a lot of posts/likes and even some nice grows showcased on their profile. I think it really boils down to people having success with HPS (because yes, they do in fact work...) and they aren't willing to put the work into figuring out if LED is now a better alternative. Having only ever grown with HPS before, and only just recently beginning serious research into the subject, I completely understand where those people are coming from. The research is hard. You have to dive into some very complex material and spend a lot of time figuring out what LED configuration works best for your specific circumstances. Its just a lot more complicated than HPS: "hey guys i have a 4x4 space how much light should i use?" - "easy bro just throw a 1k watt hps in there and make sure you have adequate cooling!" - "ok thanks man!"
The LED conversation is a bit more elaborate than that lol. People just don't want to put in the effort to learn for themselves. I'm confident I won't get an argument in favor of HPS over LED that will change my mind. But you know what the funny part is? I want that! If someone has a real argument that leads me to the best lighting system for my grow, then I want it! Lol...I'm not a LED re-seller. I don't profit from advocating LED. I just want to grow in the most efficient way I can and produce the best buds I can.
BTW...
I see this thread has become fairly active. That's pretty cool so I'd like to pose this question to you folks here and see what you think.
We've all heard of vertical growing, standard horizontal growing, supplemental lighting as well for the sides of the plant, but I've never seen a serious discussion on the benefit of surrounding the entire plant with light. Almost like keeping the plant enclosed in a cylinder of light with light also shooting upwards from the bottom of the plant. I'd like to experiment with that. My idea is, regardless of what lighting system you choose, the operation pays for the lights and eventually you are profiting, and with the benefit of not needing to change bulbs often with LED as you would HPS I'm wondering how this would work out...
I've decided when I make the move to Colorado I'm going to stay within the plant limit. This allows me to give each plant as much light as achieving an optimal outcome requires. If it were a warehouse or something I see how the added cost would deter someone from doing this. But with a limited amount of plants, I'd have no problem putting way more money into the cost of lights per plant.
Anyone want to chime in on this?
LED manufacturers are their own worst enemy. They regularly straight up lie about what their products can provide. There seems to be only a handful of companies who's products do what they say they can do. I wonder how many guys did some research then bought a Spectrum King and didn't do well. Thats got to leave a bad taste...
Changing peoples mind is very difficult. They have to be open to the new opinion. If they guy just pulled 4 poinds out of his room he may not be willing to hear these new ideas. He will probably be more apt to defend his rig. LEDs havent always been so great. Weve all seen the guy who tried LED once, hated it, and "will never go back". After a little more conversation it turns out he bought a couple Mars lights years back.