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JohnDoeTho

JohnDoeTho

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Ultimately decided to wait and play around with the poision and get some more grows under my belt before I go dumping more into seeds.

Edit: and always have this cheese to fall back on!
 
tpc_mikey

tpc_mikey

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Satori what is the fertilizer line you always talk about is it floranova? Think i am going to start using it in my organics some what in very small doses, i just cant seem to correct this cal mag issue i keep having, hell my 5 clones that are 2 weeks into flower are starting to show the symptoms, this hi cal dolomite lime just isnt doing the trick and adding cal mag isnt either.
 
im4satori

im4satori

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tpc_mikey said:
Satori what is the fertilizer line you always talk about is it floranova? Think i am going to start using it in my organics some what in very small doses, i just cant seem to correct this cal mag issue i keep having, hell my 5 clones that are 2 weeks into flower are starting to show the symptoms, this hi cal dolomite lime just isnt doing the trick and adding cal mag isnt either.
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https://www.walmart.com/ip/General-Hydroponics-FloraNova-Grow-Bloom-Quart/668794724?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=6554&adid=22222222222075336734&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=e&wl1=o&wl2=c&wl3=83975202632765&wl4=kwd-4587574829447838&wl12=668794724_10000006746&wl14=general hydroponics floranova&veh=sem

http://generalhydroponics.com/floranova


should be also available at any hydro store
 
tpc_mikey

tpc_mikey

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im4satori said:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/General-Hydroponics-FloraNova-Grow-Bloom-Quart/668794724?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=6554&adid=22222222222075336734&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=e&wl1=o&wl2=c&wl3=83975202632765&wl4=kwd-4587574829447838&wl12=668794724_10000006746&wl14=general hydroponics floranova&veh=sem

http://generalhydroponics.com/floranova


should be also available at any hydro store
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yes i have seen that at my local hydro store gonna grab some tomorrow and give it a try on next set of clones
 
mauricem00

mauricem00

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I recently decided to give organic gardening a try. I switched for MG plant food and MG bloom to espoma organic tomato tone. I'm using Kellogg patio plus organic potting soil with 25% perlite added. will I need to add bone meal during flowering or does this plant food contain enough for flowering (NPK 3-4-6 ) I have Epsom salts if the plant needs more magnesium is this considered an organic nutrient?
 
im4satori

im4satori

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mauricem00 said:
I recently decided to give organic gardening a try. I switched for MG plant food and MG bloom to espoma organic tomato tone. I'm using Kellogg patio plus organic potting soil with 25% perlite added. will I need to add bone meal during flowering or does this plant food contain enough for flowering (NPK 3-4-6 ) I have Epsom salts if the plant needs more magnesium is this considered an organic nutrient?
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man, if you ask me about hydro or water soluble fert.
I could likely give you some great direction

but im very new to organic growing myself, im still following instructions, and not qualified (to my standards)to give instructions

i will throw my 2 cents for what its worth

ive heard good things about tomato tone

looking at the npk numbers i wouldn't think youd need additional bonemeal cuz the P at 4% is a good portion of the fertilizer ratio... but theres really no way for me to say for sure

if it was me id not add any bonemeal..., if you end up needing more P you can always use guano which is quick to respond

then next grow when you re-use the soil youll know more about what else you might want to amend with in regard to P

MG fert is terrible!!

Epsom salt might not technically be "organic" but its widely used for organic gardening, but honestly im not really sure... you might be able to buy Epsom salt that's been certified organic but not organic in the sense that it requires decomp to break down thru biology
 
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mauricem00

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im4satori said:
man, if you ask me about hydro or water soluble fert.
I could likely give you some great direction

but im very new to organic growing myself, im still following instructions, and not qualified (to my standards)to give instructions

i will throw my 2 cents for what its worth

ive heard good things about tomato tone

looking at the npk numbers i wouldn't think youd need additional bonemeal cuz the P at 4% is a good portion of the fertilizer ratio... but theres really no way for me to say for sure

if it was me id not add any bonemeal..., if you end up needing more P you can always use guano which is quick to respond

then next grow when you re-use the soil youll know more about what else you might want to amend with in regard to P

MG fert is terrible!!

Epsom salt might not technically be "organic" but its widely used for organic gardening, but honestly im not really sure... you might be able to buy Epsom salt that's been certified organic but not organic in the sense that it requires decomp to break down thru biology
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I've used MG for years with good results but it seems very controversial among cannabis growers some have good success with it while others have serious problem using it. I just like trying out new things but like to try to keep things simple. I have only needed to add calcium and magnesium during test grows with LEDs but growing with T5s and HPS seem to be less critical on feeding requirements. never tried hydro but as a PU MMJ closet grower soil work fine and supplies my needs
 
im4satori

im4satori

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so im starting some new seed... seed that a made thru the recent crosses

just put them into some seed starting soil

I laid down

12 - satori f2 x lemon kush (select pheno)
12 - satori f2 x OG kush #18
6- head band x lemon kush (select pheno)

regular seed hoping to get 12 nice girls and scrap the weaklings

im also looking for 1 or 2 nice males from the satori xOG kush to cross back to the parent og kush #18 and the lemon kush


the satori is from mandala seeds, the lemon is from DNA, the og#18 is res prevada, and the head band is cali con.

so from today forward I will be working on these new strains in this journal

starting from seed

no pics for the moment not much to see but when they've sprouted I will post a couple
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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im4satori said:
theres a few leaves here or there that look squirly

but there few and far between and might have already corrected themselves from the up pot
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Looks like a bit of light burn on older leaves that might not have been getting much light before. From the overall pics, it doesn't seem like enough to worry about.

Looking good!
 
tpc_mikey

tpc_mikey

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Mine always get a few of those scrappy leaves on them after clones goto flower and get up potted, i usually yank them off so i dont have to look at them ;)
 
im4satori

im4satori

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so I just started recycling the 1x used soil

refresher;
the soil was built per cubic ft
1/3 compost,perlite,peat
1/1/2 cup lime
2 cups mix


I amended 18 gallons per pot with (2+cubic ft)

0 compost
1 gallon peat
1gallon pine bark
1 gallon perlite
3 gallons biochar
3/4 cups oyster shell
2 cups gypsum
10 oz feather meal
5 oz bone meal
2 cups green sand
2 cups mix

mix
2part kelp
2parts alfalfa
1part neem
1part crab
1 part fish


and im going to soak it with 2 gallons tea and 1oz fish emulsion per gallon
 
tpc_mikey

tpc_mikey

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im4satori said:
so that soil was amended for the upcoming new seedlings/sprouts....

as for whats in flower...no additional progression of any type of def ...every thing looks great
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I will be recycling my soil from last grow as well this weekend, and got a final weight on my 1 plant i was shocked came in at 335gs never would have guessed i would get that much off that plant but those cola's in pics above weighed 85gs roughly dried lol
 
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