dagwood45431
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Citation, please. Where did you get this info?
Trump: Transgender people 'can't serve' in US military
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dagwood45431
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He must not suffer fools gladly. That's a sign of intelligence. I am not surprised you did not recognize it.
tampee
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From the fact he armed funded and trained ISIS to destroy Libia, Yemen, Somolia, Syria and a few others. He also did more drone attacks than Bush. Said "I'm really good at killing people".
He did nothing but escalate conflict in the Middle East and North Korea!
tampee
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I did not see any intelligence from @Heil Tweetler just ignorant ramblings.
CriticalCheeze
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Actually, he said he was going to limit the amount of troops on the ground over there. In which he did lower the number on the ground during his time in office. Prove to me he didn't or shut the fuck up
dagwood45431
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Yeah, you probably look at HT like my dog would. He's not a very good judge of intelligence either. Do you cock your head as you read?
TacoMac
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Wow man. Every time I think you can't get any more ridiculously stupid, you go and prove me wrong. ISIS was trained by the Bush administration, you idiot. Bush armed them, trained them, and then they didn't like who Bush decided to put in power so they rebelled against it all and that's why we are where we are today.
Bush has the blood of over 400,000 Muslims on his hands. Last time I checked, Obama hadn't made it past the 7,000 mark yet.
So, not only are you wrong; you're wrong on a level that defies all reason and logic.
You are, without doubt, the most completely ignorant person I've ever encountered in my lifetime.
st0wandgrow
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That video wasn't from the 90's though. She referenced 9/11 and our invasion of Iraq. So maybe around 2005. What has changed in the last 10 years for her to go from a resounding NO on gay marriage, to her supporting it? Could it just be the politically expedient thing for her to do?
You either support gay people and equal rights for them, or you don't. This was a political calculation on her part. Plain and simple
dagwood45431
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That is not a citation with verifiable numbers. You made it up and you are wrong, just like you always are.
I'll give you one more chance, however. Citation or implicitly, you will be admitting you made it up. What's this? Tampee a liar? No. Can't be.
dagwood45431
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dagwood45431
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Can't a fool dream?
CriticalCheeze
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What politician DOESN'T make political calculations? And that is not the truth 100% of the time. Would you have said the same thing 10-15 years ago about cannabis when only 20-25% agreed with it? How many people were against gays just because whatever bible they were thumping at the time told them?
Some people are stubbornly stuck on their choice/opinion, some are not. People change from time to time.. Politician or not.
Fogdog
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It's true that Hillary could change positions from time to time. Maybe a political calculation, I don't know how you can know this, unless make claims like pad does. Pad says he can tell what Senators are thinking, how he can say that is beyond me. Clinton's track record as a Senator, Sec of State and her statements as a candidate did indeed reflect changes over time. From what I saw, those changes were toward the good. For example, I simply can't agree that her change in position on gay marriage was a bad thing. Same goes with TPP.
UncleBuck
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bush killed over a million innocent civilians.
obama's count was in the hundreds.
you are a retarded pedophile.
Fogdog
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Taking tty and pad as examples, I'd say the fools who call themselves Sandernistas (snicker) aren't good at reproducing. So, a generation or two is all it takes to flush that dreadful mutation out of the pool. Unless it it a recessive trait, in which case, it may persist for the hundred thousand or so years that you mention. If we come up with a treatment for it, we'll never get rid of it. So, I'm against funding research on a cure for Sandernistaism.Can't a fool dream?
dagwood45431
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IMO, Obama was sandbagging the entire time. He knew he had to walk a fine line on it to get elected. Once he did, though, OMG! He delivered! The White House lit up in rainbow colors? I didn't see that coming anytime soon, and that was just the dressing on top of all the progress made!
Does the end justify the means? In this case, I'd say "fuck yeah"!
I dream of a day when some of these people will just come out and admit they're atheists. A whole lot of pols are sandbagging on that one too.
st0wandgrow
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Sure, there are some issues that I understand changing a stance on. Her vote for the Iraq war for example. I didn't support it, but I understand making a judgement call on it at the time, and then changing her opinion on it after the fact once more information became available.
Equal rights for a group of people is not one of those judgement call issues. You either support equal rights for them or you don't. It's not a political football.
And yes, I have always supported marijuana legalization. Always will.
Fogdog
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When I was much younger, I was a homophobe. By your standard, I'm lying to you when I now say I support gay rights.
People with an open mind can learn and change their views. Even your unjustified self confidence is curable.
st0wandgrow
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"Much younger"...as in how old?
I used to believe in santa clause when I was much younger, but now I don't.
We're not talking about her views when she was 16. Hillary didn't support gay marriage when she was 59, but now that she's 69 she does? Come on fog. Is it that difficult to admit that it was just a political calculation for her?