Colorado wants to crackdown on home growers

[rkymtnman]

But hey......while they're looking for weed they can look/take your guns as well....huh? Fat chance.

pretty ballsy statement. you'll be crying like a bitch when they charge you federally with gun and marijuana charges that carry mandatory sentences.

 

[ttystikk]

pretty ballsy statement. you'll be crying like a bitch when they charge you federally with gun and marijuana charges that carry mandatory sentences.

Indeed. See my post immediately above for how much they respect our constitutional rights.

 

[rkymtnman]

Indeed. See my post immediately above for how much they respect our constitutional rights.

i read yours just after mine posted. keyboard warrior for sure. club fed will change that cavalier attitude

 

[ttystikk]

i read yours just after mine posted. keyboard warrior for sure. club fed will change that cavalier attitude

The government's lack of respect for citizen's rights and their obedience to corporate interests is bankrupting our country.

Since the government is now controlled by moneyed interests instead of the will of the People, I don't see any way for things to change until the entire financial system crashes.

...again.

Meanwhile, let's be sure to continue persecuting people who grow a harmless medicinal plant.

 

[ANC]

Wrong. Entirely.

If Colorado's law is ever going to hold water for the long haul, they MUST come down hard on illegal sales. If they don't, and allow illegal sales to continue, then that proves the Federal Government is right and that States can't police it and as such have no jurisdictional or legal right to legalize it to begin with.

In other words, it will be the end of any hope of ever legalizing marijuana anywhere in this country. Forever.

Stop being stupid.

Just make sales legal, simple really. The law is a stupid legacy that has no more place in a freethinking modern society.
Remember laws are words on paper written by people, general society deems mostly thieves and liars.

I bet the only people pushing for this is big money, they have all the cash on hand to roll out their own corporate giant grows, they just need the competition out of the way, they already know there is a demand.

 

[ttystikk]

Just make sales legal, simple really. The law is a stupid legacy that has no more place in a freethinking modern society.
Remember laws are words on paper written by people, general society deems mostly thieves and liars.

And governments are sets of rules written down on paper, usually by people who are susceptible to bribes.

So much for idealism.

 

[ANC]

We need to remind them often and at every opportunity.

 

[ttystikk]

We need to remind them often and at every opportunity.

Indeed, but America's Government has made it possible for those running it to ignore their constituents and keep taking both the bribery money and keep their jobs. Such insulation from the voice of the People leads to the kind of political isolation we're now seeing and will inevitably lead to another financial crash.

But the rich won't suffer.

 

[ANC]

Your poor are not vocal enough yet.
Over here they will start a shanty town on an open field, then start stoning passing vehicles to demand electricity and sanitation.

 

[Moldy]

There are NO individual sales allowed here to dispensaries. (you buy from them - they don't buy from you) To be involved in such things you need a (very expensive and impossible to get) license from the State and must jump through more hoops than you've ever seen. (for starters, all of your private/personal info is available to the state and the Feds via a 30 page application/reveal)

There's the problem right there. Too many people were ejected from the cannabis "trade" that had no other skills. You fuck people out of there trade and they go underground. This needs to be modified to include these people that were thrown out of work IMO.

 

[ttystikk]

Your poor are not vocal enough yet.
Over here they will start a shanty town on an open field, then start stoning passing vehicles to demand electricity and sanitation.

Over here, the poor are attacked with military weapons wielded by 'civilian' police forces for exercising their constitutional rights to free speech and public assembly.

But something has got to give, and there are a lot more poor people than rich people, even in America.

 

[ANC]

There's the problem right there. Too many people were ejected from the cannabis "trade" that had no other skills. You fuck people out of there trade and they go underground. This needs to be modified to include these people that were thrown out of work IMO.

There is also a problem with taxation. Many people say tax it high, but that just leaves a demand for weed at the price minus tax... and many people who are willing to try and meet that need.

 

[ANC]

Over here, the poor are attacked with military weapons wielded by 'civilian' police forces for exercising their constitutional rights to free speech and public assembly.

But something has got to give, and there are a lot more poor people than rich people, even in America.

You think this didn't happen here? :Look up Marikana.

 

[ttystikk]

There's the problem right there. Too many people were ejected from the cannabis "trade" that had no other skills. You fuck people out of there trade and they go underground. This needs to be modified to include these people that were thrown out of work IMO.

I'm one of those people.

The Cannabis lobby itself pushed for that legislation, to make it easier for them to consolidate the industry and enrich the biggest companies, consequences to the larger society be damned.

Our whole system is the problem.

That's why I'm doubtful it can be fixed without another Great Crash and resulting Great Depression. Only then will enough people get hungry and desperate enough to demand change until they actually get it, because they'll have nothing left to lose.

 

[ttystikk]

You think this didn't happen here? :Look up Marikana.

I'm well aware it happened there. It happened again and again. Poor people in America are at the beginning of the process and feel they have more to lose than black South Africans did.

This is why I'm doubtful that anything will be resolved until things get much worse.

 

[ANC]

Can you say solar minimum?
If you can, can you say Maunder minimum...? it is right around the corner.

 

[rkymtnman]

There is also a problem with taxation. Many people say tax it high, but that just leaves a demand for weed at the price minus tax... and many people who are willing to try and meet that need.

no way to fix that. there's a huge grey market for untaxed cigarettes still around.

 

[ttystikk]

Can you say solar minimum?
If you can, can you say Maunder minimum.... it is right around the corner.

Please draw the connection between solar cycles and the American political process; I fail to see any.

 

[ttystikk]

no way to fix that. there's a huge grey market for untaxed cigarettes still around.

Their 'fix' is to send in the troops. Suspend your constitutional rights and commit lawfare.

 

[ANC]

I have a feeling we are about to see a mini ice age within the next 3 years.
If we are lucky we won't stumble straight into a Maunder, the last one led to the dark ages.
The price of food will skyrocket. I've read all the Nasa bit where they say 'oh this is normal'
But if you look back at historical records, I would say we are pretty much seeing a repeat of the pattern before the last one.

I'm very pro earth, hate pollution and damage to it in general, but I am starting to smell a rat when I see global warming talks.
I'm just a slightly nutty person, no one has to listen to me luckily. But at least you will have something to chuckle about around the fire if it comes to pass.

 

[greg nr]

no way to fix that. there's a huge grey market for untaxed cigarettes still around.

Yup, and you can still buy a felony conviction for selling untaxed cigarettes or alcohol.

I suppose it's progress in a way. Selling pot has become an economic crime as opposed to a violent crime.