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abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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ttystikk said:
He's broken both of those 'rules' with me, hence my lack of respect for him.

I agree that bigotry should not be tolerated, but I don't engage in it- so he's fresh out of an excuse in my case.
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A little bit of ball busting once you know someone isn't a big deal, it's not the same as verbally attacking a bigot. Besides, you can be annoying with the Bernerisms. I know, you don't think that shit is annoying, but you're a Berner, of course it isn't annoying to you. For what it's worth, I think you're a nice and likable person.
 
kelly4

kelly4

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abandonconflict said:
He has never once insulted me or even attempted to do so. We disagree plenty but what I have seen is that he insults people who insult him or who are bigots and profer generally offensive language. If someone is clearly a bigot, he will unilaterally begin his offense and he even does so in such a way so as to give them a chance to be cool and they never are. I have seen @UncleBuck show deference to conservatives and centrists who are not offensive. I have even seen him permit a little bit of ball busting if it is tactful.

There are actually that many racists and fuckwits around that the guy is constantly having to insult them despite all this. I know because I have a very similar approach. Just a couple days ago me and @londonfog had such an exchange. He and I definitely do not see eye to eye. Yet we managed not to escalate it to polemics. The bigotry should not be tolerated.
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Usually...but, I have seen him be offensive and cruel to people who didn't deserve it. Moses Mobetta for example. UB knows it to be true.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Fogdog said:
Just about every diver has that dream. Or you could combine dive resort with live-aboard sailing. Like these people have done:

http://www.julietsailinganddiving.com/
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It's not my dream, it's my if this than probably that. My dream is just to own a small sailboat I can handle myself. I don't need much, even a 40 year old monohull that needs a bunch of work. I already have good diving and photography gear. I would open a diveshop later in life for the social benefits. To have a bunch of backpackers around doing DM internships. To have returning customers who come to whatever island every year. Just to have a dive school where I get to be the venerable maestro. I'm sure I will later, when I decide to direct courses.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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abandonconflict said:
It's not my dream, it's my if this than probably that. My dream is just to own a small sailboat I can handle myself. I don't need much, even a 40 year old monohull that needs a bunch of work. I already have good diving and photography gear. I would open a diveshop later in life for the social benefits. To have a bunch of backpackers around doing DM internships. To have returning customers who come to whatever island every year. Just to have a dive school where I get to be the venerable maestro. I'm sure I will later, when I decide to direct courses.
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That sounds like a great life.
 
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