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Rob Roy

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Yeah, those damn racist southern Democrats of the '30's.

Oh, isn't that who morphed into the current Republican base after 1964 CRA?

If you don't like FDR, then don't ever sign up for any of his social programs. They aren't mandatory.

Thank you for admitting that the two party system is a ploy and that the same thuggish ideas can be cloaked in either red or blue.

Oh, and by the way FDR was from New York state, which I guess is "south" if you live in Quebec. Wink.
 

ttystikk

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Rampages like this will be used to justify ever more security, ever more investigation, ever fewer civil rights. The perfect foils for the New World Order (the fascist super-nationalist corporations).

The insurance lobby should not be allowed to dictate laws. Big pharma should not a be allowed to make medical policy. A bank/investment house that's 'too big to fail' is a direct threat to our national security and must be seized and dismantled according to 'orderly resolution' rules for failed lenders.

And every fucking dime that enters politics from any source but a registered voter MUST END, and each voter limited to a universally accessible sum, say $100. That includes their own money.

Failure to conform to the rules disqualifies the candidate from being accepted to serve in office, period.

These aren't new ideas. It's only recently we've found ourselves being snowed on a mass scale by those who would profit from democracy's demise and told that these concepts are anything but essential to the people's control over their government and not the other way around.
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rkymtnman

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Korematsu v United States
The decision of the case, written by Justice Hugo Black, found the case largely indistinguishable from the previous year's Hirabayashi v. United States decision, and rested largely on the same principle: deference to Congress and the military authorities, particularly in light of the uncertainty following Pearl Harbor. Justice Black further denied that the case had anything to do with racial prejudice:

Korematsu was not excluded from the Military Area because of hostility to him or his race. He was excluded because we are at war with the Japanese Empire, because the properly constituted military authorities feared an invasion of our West Coast and felt constrained to take proper security measures, because they decided that the military urgency of the situation demanded that all citizens of Japanese ancestry be segregated from the West Coast temporarily, and, finally, because Congress, reposing its confidence in this time of war in our military leaders—as inevitably it must—determined that they should have the power to do just this.
 

HAF2

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They cry and "protest" and forget to realize that its only them who aren't getting what they want.

So far so good I say.
How has anything trump has done over the last 10 days possitively affected your life?
Now think about how what he has done has negatively affected the lives of millions of people directly or indirectly.
Do you give any shits about the greater good?
 

spandy

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How has anything trump has done over the last 10 days possitively affected your life?
Now think about how what he has done has negatively affected the lives of millions of people directly or indirectly.
Do you give any shits about the greater good?

I support the greater good, just not your greater good.
 

HAF2

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I support the greater good, just not your greater good.
Greater good = the greatest good for the greatest number of people.

Do you really think "your good" is the best for the most people? Or just the people that you feel are the most important?

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/utilitarianism-history/

The Classical Utilitarians, Jeremy Bentham and John Stuart Mill, identified the good with pleasure, so, like Epicurus, were hedonists about value. They also held that we ought to maximize the good, that is, bring about 'the greatest amount of good for the greatest number'.
 

tangerinegreen555

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Thank you for admitting that the two party system is a ploy and that the same thuggish ideas can be cloaked in either red or blue.

Oh, and by the way FDR was from New York state, which I guess is "south" if you live in Quebec. Wink.
I don't know who you're winking at, choomer's not here.

I neither said FDR was from the south or racist. You said he was racist, though.
When KKK lynchings were continuing in the 1930's south, Eleanor went down and made speeches to the dumb fucking rebels to try to reason with them. I'm sure FDR asked her to go and appeal to them.
 

spandy

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Greater good = the greatest good for the greatest number of people.

Do you really think "your good" is the best for the most people? Or just the people that you feel are the most important?

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/utilitarianism-history/

The Classical Utilitarians, Jeremy Bentham and John Stuart Mill, identified the good with pleasure, so, like Epicurus, were hedonists about value. They also held that we ought to maximize the good, that is, bring about 'the greatest amount of good for the greatest number'.

If 51% of the world are assholes, then the greater good gets tossed aside.
 
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