Young black males and public education.

redivider said:
I promised myself Id stay out of politics section bc this is where dreams come to die.

There hs been systematic oppression of black people for over 100 years in the USA. First black ppl were slaves, then they were segregated, from school, work, restaurants, etc.

Then the school to prison pipeline started. Then you have all these private deviation centers just making a killing out of classifying hugh volumes of youth as at risk for seemingly normal teenage rebeliousness.

Then you have the family situation. You hve teens havig kids- since they are kids you have kids raising babies, the results aren't going to be great. Then you have teen dads that dont take having babies seriously and you get a broken home.

There are studies that directly tie doing chores at home and stable home life as a child to happiness and success as an adult. The most impressive is the Harvard Grant which. Talks about happiness and other things. There should be a middleschool requirement to take and pass a course on this study as it is eye openingand I think kids at this age are smart enough to understand and listen.

linear algebra, or precalculus at 14-15 years old? The school system is effed up.

Figuring out the long side of a right triangle or what the inverse cosine is doesnt do anything for all these poor kids that are making poor choices. Taking them on a 'Scared Straight' prison tour - that's what we teach kids.... its sickening. RED OUT.
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Try 400 years
 
londonfog said:
In order for a theft to occur you have to have a victim. Seeing how the owner did not mine the eating of his oranges as long as no mess was made, no theft occurred.
Please pay your property tax on time to avoid any penalties
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So you were forgiven for your thievery. I'm happy for you, you seem like a nice guy so it's good you were given a second chance.

The word we should be discussing in both your forgiven thievery and public school funding is "consent".

If consent exists, it's not theft. If it doesn't exist or it is given under duress, a theft has occurred.

Would you say threatening to steal a persons home creates "duress" ? I would.
 
UncleBuck said:
the fact that i got your geriatric klanman ass to hop to his defense unprompted guarantees that you and him and i all know that this is a pathetically clumsy attempt at a white supremacy thread.
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That could be, but your failing to consider all the possibilities because some of the potential outcomes disagree with your narrative sheds light on YOUR racism. You prefer a certain outcome therefore you prematurely discard any other potential outcomes if they disagree with your preferred outcome. Confirmation bias much ?

Geriatric ass? I'll have you know my glutes are tight and chiseled.
 
londonfog said:
To say all public schools are failures, is an incorrect and foolish statement. I will say that some public schools need for improvement. We need to find a way to distribute monies evenly across the state and just not county
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You need to back up a bit. The efficacy of a thing that is involuntarily funded doesn't provide a reason to use threats to acquire funding. Whether public schools suck (they do) or not, the way they are funded needs to changed...because it is wrong.


You need to find a way to create competition and apply free market principles which rely on peaceful and voluntary funding from WILLING customers. If you fail to do that, what differentiates public schools method of funding from the same method used by thugs?
 
Rob Roy said:
That could be, but your failing to consider all the possibilities because some of the potential outcomes disagree with your narrative sheds light on YOUR racism. You prefer a certain outcome therefore you prematurely discard any other potential outcomes if they disagree with your preferred outcome. Confirmation bias much ?

Geriatric ass? I'll have you know my glutes are tight and chiseled.
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"no, YOU are the racist!", claims old man who thinks it is polite and reasonable to hang a 'no negroes allowed' sign.
 
Rob Roy said:
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let's not try to change the subject away from the fact that you said it was "polite and reasonable" to hang a sign that says 'no negroes allowed', and then tried to claim that everyone else is racist except you.

but actually, 20+ million people have signed up for obamacare. this year was record setting. i guess people want to get covered before your racist orange hero takes it away.
 
UncleBuck said:
let's not try to change the subject away from the fact that you said it was "polite and reasonable" to hang a sign that says 'no negroes allowed', and then tried to claim that everyone else is racist except you.

but actually, 20+ million people have signed up for obamacare. this year was record setting. i guess people want to get covered before your racist orange hero takes it away.
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Rob Roy said:
So you were forgiven for your thievery. I'm happy for you, you seem like a nice guy so it's good you were given a second chance.

The word we should be discussing in both your forgiven thievery and public school funding is "consent".

If consent exists, it's not theft. If it doesn't exist or it is given under duress, a theft has occurred.

Would you say threatening to steal a persons home creates "duress" ? I would.
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When a person buys a home he or she agrees to pay the property tax. You agreed when you signed. Same as when you signed for your sons to have a social security number. Don't bitch after you used the benifits.
How will you file your taxes this year ?
 
Rob Roy said:
You need to back up a bit. The efficacy of a thing that is involuntarily funded doesn't provide a reason to use threats to acquire funding. Whether public schools suck (they do) or not, the way they are funded needs to changed...because it is wrong.


You need to find a way to create competition and apply free market principles which rely on peaceful and voluntary funding from WILLING customers. If you fail to do that, what differentiates public schools method of funding from the same method used by thugs?
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Ummm you are the one who has a problem paying property tax. Not I.
Do you have any ideas how to keep PUBLIC SCHOOLS running without property taxes ?
 
Rob Roy said:
You need to back up a bit. The efficacy of a thing that is involuntarily funded doesn't provide a reason to use threats to acquire funding. Whether public schools suck (they do) or not, the way they are funded needs to changed...because it is wrong.


You need to find a way to create competition and apply free market principles which rely on peaceful and voluntary funding from WILLING customers. If you fail to do that, what differentiates public schools method of funding from the same method used by thugs?
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There are private schools in the USA. Free market principles are applied, they compete and the market is there for provate schooling....

You know why this industry has not outgrown and wiped out public education? I mean you would think companies would be jumping at the chance. The market is HUGE given how is mandated every kid go to school.

It is because the industry has seen that there is no profit in education past a certain class size. The logistical requirements are too much and the risk is too high- real estate, teachers, security, insurances etc. Its not a profitable enterprise to make education accessible to EVERY person. Education is only profitable if student selection is limited, classes are small, and the cost per credit is high. There is no other argument this is just the reality of the world we live in. Anything else is based on false premises and assumptions, not grounded in facts and reality.

So there are two options: let capitalism take its course and have the majority of people in the US completely cutoff from education bc of price - or you provide schooling for 'free' and let each individual make the most of school if they choose to.... make it a public service that has to be provided by society and that way everybody benefits.

You can try to say whatever you want about duress but the bottom line is history and reality prove you wrong.
 
londonfog said:
When a person buys a home he or she agrees to pay the property tax. You agreed when you signed. Same as when you signed for your sons to have a social security number. Don't bitch after you used the benifits.
How will you file your taxes this year ?
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Except you're wrong. When a person buys a house they agree to pay the owner a sum of money. If they can't reach agreement that person can make an offer to another person for another house and if they can reach agreement the purchase happens.

Property tax = an oxymoron If the characteristics of property and tax are understood, my equation is irrefutable.

*benefits
 
londonfog said:
Ummm you are the one who has a problem paying property tax. Not I.
Do you have any ideas how to keep PUBLIC SCHOOLS running without property taxes ?
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Public ownership of something is a façade. It is a created term to dupe hapless people into the abyss of servitude without the hapless serf feeling the giant dick of the state slide in. You are well greased my friend, now moan some more for Nanny!


Oh to answer your question, yes. Sorry, I got off track framing the reply.
 
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