LP "starting materials"

GroErr

GroErr

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Brewery said:
Is that harlequin I see on one those bottles... colour me jealous!
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Lol, yeah scrapped that since that pic and went another route. Crossed my keeper Harlequin female with my high THC Blue Ripper and got a keeper after about 10 tries. She's just about to finish and smells/looks like the original Harlequin mother, except about 3x the yield and frostier, with a <8 week finish:)

The end game on this cross is to find and eventually stabilize a 75/25 mix of THC/CBD. I found that mixing kief for my oil caps had excellent effects with high THC and CBD mixed at that ratio. Hoping to eventually produce it in seed form :)

She gets the chop boxing day :)

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HerbalRelief

HerbalRelief

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I know if you call HC they will tell you that the only source is from an LP. However if you read the legislation, the legislation says that we "may" purchase from an LP, not that we "must".

In talking to HC people (at least the ones answering the phones) they have said a number of things were a certain way, but reading the legislation it is rather open ended.
 
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JungleStrikeGuy

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HerbalRelief said:
I know if you call HC they will tell you that the only source is from an LP. However if you read the legislation, the legislation says that we "may" purchase from an LP, not that we "must".

In talking to HC people (at least the ones answering the phones) they have said a number of things were a certain way, but reading the legislation it is rather open ended.
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You roll the dice when you call HC with who you get on the phone, given past experiences in talking to them some would have probably struggled in saying the sky was blue.
 
HerbalRelief

HerbalRelief

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From my experience that is true!

I read a member on here saying that the clinic would not renew their prescription without a receipt from an LP for starting materials? This clinic hasn't read the legislation because nowhere does the legislation say you must purchase from an LP. The legislation simply states you have the option (i.e. "may").
 
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JungleStrikeGuy

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HerbalRelief said:
From my experience that is true!

I read a member on here saying that the clinic would not renew their prescription without a receipt from an LP for starting materials? This clinic hasn't read the legislation because nowhere does the legislation say you must purchase from an LP. The legislation simply states you have the option (i.e. "may").
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That is correct, but basically doctors are writing their own regulations. They aren't answerable to HC (pretty much to no one but the provincial / federal regulatory commissions), and those commissions have outright said in a response to the task force report they don't want doctors authorizing medical cannabis anymore, so you're more or less at the mercy of the 'clinic' you go to.

There are some good doctors out there who don't pull this kind of garbage, but few and far between it seems.
 
CalyxCrusher

CalyxCrusher

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HerbalRelief said:
I know if you call HC they will tell you that the only source is from an LP. However if you read the legislation, the legislation says that we "may" purchase from an LP, not that we "must".

In talking to HC people (at least the ones answering the phones) they have said a number of things were a certain way, but reading the legislation it is rather open ended.
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Thats correct, you can still be licensed if you choose no as an option
 
GroErr

GroErr

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HerbalRelief said:
I know if you call HC they will tell you that the only source is from an LP. However if you read the legislation, the legislation says that we "may" purchase from an LP, not that we "must".

In talking to HC people (at least the ones answering the phones) they have said a number of things were a certain way, but reading the legislation it is rather open ended.
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I know what you're saying, I've seen that too on their brief version/web site and forms it seems open ended.

You prompted me to find the full document which was last updated Dec. 6th and while it's not clear there either. I did find some interesting stuff in there related to seeds. Mainly some items pertaining to storage and carry counts, worth a read as it could cause some issues for registered folks.

Here's an extract of anything pertaining to seeds, each is marked with the section/item in the full document.

Demonstrate authority to possess or produce

15 An individual who, in accordance with these Regulations,

possesses or produces fresh or dried marihuana,

cannabis oil or marihuana plants or seeds or a product

referred to in paragraph 4(1)(b) or (c) must, on demand,

demonstrate to a police officer that the possession or

production is authorized.


Prohibition — obtaining from more than one source

16 (1) It is prohibited to seek or obtain fresh or dried

marihuana, cannabis oil or marihuana plants or seeds

from more than one source at a time on the basis of the

same medical document.


Equivalency factor

(2) For the purposes of paragraph (1)(f), three marihuana

seeds are equivalent to one marihuana plant


Section 187:
(c) transport directly, from the site for the storage of

cannabis to the site for the production of marihuana

plants, a total quantity of marihuana plants and seeds

that, taking into account the equivalency factor specified

in subsection 145(2), does not exceed the equivalent

of the maximum number of plants, determined in

accordance with section 190, that are authorized to be

under production under the registration;
 
HerbalRelief

HerbalRelief

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Thanks that is informative for the people here. Just for clarity, section (1)(f) and equivalency

Refusal 145 (1) A licensed producer must refuse to fill an order referred to in section 143 if:

f) the order specifies a total quantity of marihuana plants and seeds that, taking into account the equivalency factor specified in subsection (2), exceeds the equivalent of the maximum number of plants, determined in accordance with section 190, that are authorized to be under production under the client’s registration with the Minister made under Part 2;

...I'll attach the pdf of the full legislation here too for anyone that wants it.
 

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GroErr

GroErr

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HerbalRelief said:
Thanks that is informative for the people here. Just for clarity, section (1)(f) and equivalency

Refusal 145 (1) A licensed producer must refuse to fill an order referred to in section 143 if:

f) the order specifies a total quantity of marihuana plants and seeds that, taking into account the equivalency factor specified in subsection (2), exceeds the equivalent of the maximum number of plants, determined in accordance with section 190, that are authorized to be under production under the client’s registration with the Minister made under Part 2;

...I'll attach the pdf of the full legislation here too for anyone that wants it.
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That equivalency factor could bite you in the ass in relation to storage and transport if you got pulled over or inspected by a cowboy.

The good thing with inspections is they need your permission to access the premises, so they have to contact you first and you have the right to refuse if they tried to perform an unannounced inspection.
 
HerbalRelief

HerbalRelief

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GroErr said:
That equivalency factor could bite you in the ass in relation to storage and transport if you got pulled over or inspected by a cowboy.

The good thing with inspections is they need your permission to access the premises, so they have to contact you first and you have the right to refuse if they tried to perform an unannounced inspection.
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You're right though, my bad. Section 187(c) does reference 145(2). So I guess if you have a 3 GPD script indoor that would be 45 seeds you could have (15x3). Half of those could be male?

For transport I mean like in section 187c
 
HerbalRelief

HerbalRelief

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TheRealDman said:
Based on the above noted "equivalency factor for seed"....I'm over my pink limits by about 100k plants! :leaf:
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LOL what did (1) plant go to seed?

haha.

Friggin idiots (legislators). Although maybe someone could point out the section where it mentions seeds and STORAGE (at your growing location). I could not find it.... ;-P
 
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GroErr

GroErr

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HerbalRelief said:
Although maybe someone could point out the section where it mentions seeds and STORAGE (at your growing location). I could not find it.... ;-P
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You could take the following section combined with the equivalence factor, that seeds would count towards your possession/storage count. Of course everything will eventually be interpreted in court ;)

Do what you need to do, plan around the regs. In the end we have precedence in being given the right to grow/access our meds, at the highest court level. All regulations around it are up for interpretation, in the courts. Lawyers are drooling as we speak ;)

Demonstrate authority to possess or produce

15 An individual who, in accordance with these Regulations,

possesses or produces fresh or dried marihuana,

cannabis oil or marihuana plants or seeds or a product

referred to in paragraph 4(1)(b) or (c) must, on demand,

demonstrate to a police officer that the possession or

production is authorized.
 
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