DEA at it again...

[Justin-case]

I know a lot about a lot of drugs I used to be a drug dealer until my friends started getting busted and a few trying to rat of course only the white ones were trying to rat.

I've done heroin before too it is a nice drug with moderation as is coke and alcohol key word moderation. Majority of people who use heroin use it in moderation and are not addicted a bit like most people with alcohol I do know some hardcore alcohol junkies actually a lot more than hardcore heroin junkies.

I'm against the War On drugs 110% from weed to coke heroin and meth. Really clean meth is not very bad for you as that's what they give children in school. Street meth is the problem because lots of dirty chemicals are left behind and nobody is going straight up Walter White.

Coke they use gasoline in the extraction process but they could use food grade ethanol meaning a legal market would be required for clean cocaine as well.

I've never lost a debate on ending the drug war but by all means you can try. I know the OP doesn't want to debate the drug war but the thread is dead anyways.

Tldr, by scrapee the site junkie, toodaloo.

 

[tampee]

Tldr, by scrapee the site junkie, toodaloo.

I guess some people are just slow. I could literally read that in a minute.

 

[Moldy]

According to the CDC 88,000 per year. Spousal abuse, violent crimes and rape are also much more likely to happen under the influence of alcohol.

Alcohol is highly addictive and withdrawals are lethal unlike heroin which very few people have died from heroin withdrawals.

Heroin on the streets is not dosed out one bit and majority of the deaths are from fentanyl laced heroin or just plain old synthetic heroin made with fentanyl and cut. Just one dust grain of fentanyl is like 1 MG of Oxycodone it's not easy to mix perfectly if possible at all.



That's the opiate related deaths from 2010.

Just because heroin metabolizes into Morphine makes no difference when you don't know if you are getting 5 or 50 Mg's in the bag of dope it's all cut and a lot is mixed with fentanyl which can't be properly mixed in a gram of powder so every bag is the same dose.

Alcohol is worse than heroin no if ands or buts about it.

You gotta know that our government doesn't give a happy shit about your personal welfare, it's all about dollars coming in to the re-election coffers from lobbyist pushing their pills or their prison or their fracking wells.. yada yada... Look out for yourselves and keep your head down cause nobody cares about anything but their bottom line and it will get worse now that we have a capitalist dictator entering the WH.

 

[tharoomman]

According to the CDC 88,000 per year. Spousal abuse, violent crimes and rape are also much more likely to happen under the influence of alcohol.

Alcohol is highly addictive and withdrawals are lethal unlike heroin which very few people have died from heroin withdrawals.

Heroin on the streets is not dosed out one bit and majority of the deaths are from fentanyl laced heroin or just plain old synthetic heroin made with fentanyl and cut. Just one dust grain of fentanyl is like 1 MG of Oxycodone it's not easy to mix perfectly if possible at all.



That's the opiate related deaths from 2010.

Just because heroin metabolizes into Morphine makes no difference when you don't know if you are getting 5 or 50 Mg's in the bag of dope it's all cut and a lot is mixed with fentanyl which can't be properly mixed in a gram of powder so every bag is the same dose.

Alcohol is worse than heroin no if ands or buts about it.

Only because alchohal is legal. Heroin, and opiates in general, are the fucking devil. No doubt, alcohol cause many problems, but opiates are beyond addictive.
If heroin was legal, the negative effects for society would be 100 fold worse than alchohal...

 

[Justin-case]

I guess some people are just slow. I could literally read that in a minute.

I make it a point to not waste my time on junkies, toodaloo

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Kratom is still legal, for those otherwise informed. Congress and 140k petitioners, myself among them, beat the DEA back on the issue, at least for a little while.

http://www.buykratom.us

I also have a rooted Kratom Tree cutting, thanks to @RM3 and a mutual friend. Pink Vein Indo.

 

[tampee]

You gotta know that our government doesn't give a happy shit about your personal welfare, it's all about dollars coming in to the re-election coffers from lobbyist pushing their pills or their prison or their fracking wells.. yada yada... Look out for yourselves and keep your head down cause nobody cares about anything but their bottom line and it will get worse now that we have a capitalist dictator entering the WH.

True it's only gotten worse in America and the only thing politicians care about is money. The CIA makes too much money off of the drug war for their black ops the people have no idea about because if it came down to a congressional vote the people would know Syria is not a civil war it's all about a pipeline and fucking Russia out of being the #1 importer of natural gas into Europe.

I don't really believe Trump is any worse than Hillary Clinton though because she is also a crony capitalist and was cool with all the pipeline bullshit. Neither give a damn about the people or the environment only difference is Hillary wanted a carbon tax which would cost the consumer more money not the oil companies. We need hemp and renewable energy Hillary was behind all the big oil the pipelines and all which is the very reason for global warming. Pollution for climate change denier's.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

True it's only gotten worse in America and the only thing politicians care about is money. The CIA makes too much money off of the drug war for their black ops the people have no idea about because if it came down to a congressional vote the people would know Syria is not a civil war it's all about a pipeline and fucking Russia out of being the #1 importer of natural gas into Europe.

I don't really believe Trump is any worse than Hillary Clinton though because she is also a crony capitalist and was cool with all the pipeline bullshit. Neither give a damn about the people or the environment only difference is Hillary wanted a carbon tax which would cost the consumer more money not the oil companies. We need hemp and renewable energy Hillary was behind all the big oil the pipelines and all which is the very reason for global warming. Pollution for climate change denier's.

Your views are simplistic, paranoid, and moronic. Have you ever had a mental evaluation Tampon Timee? The very ones you support have done exactly what you accuse the opposition of doing but it doesn't seem to ruffle your little white-boy feathers. You are the definition of a cuck but are just too unintelligent to know it. Probably the chemtrails got to you.

How do you like TRUMP!'S Sec of state? Exxon's CEO?

Fucking hemp. Lol. That'll save us. So will "clean coal". Lol x 2

 

[ktmac20]

@tampee feel free to discuss in this thread...You are articulate and make some good points too apparently not all will agree and some just can't articulate and resort to name calling!

@Unclebaldrick If you can't articulate a mature non trolling response without name calling no matter the posters lifestyle get the fuck out of my thread!


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[Unclebaldrick]

@tampee feel free to discuss in this thread...You are articulate and make some good points too apparently not all will agree and some just can't articulate and resort to name calling!

@Unclebaldrick If you can't articulate a mature non trolling response without name calling no matter the posters lifestyle get the fuck out of my thread!


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You should report me. Your thread. Lol. Fuck your thread.

 

[schuylaar]

Even hemp is Schedule 1 the DEA ain't going to let us have cannabis without a fight. Good thing a few more states legalized but they still need to fill the prisons they probably will take down the bigger dispensaries since they can't use banks and it's all about money and power.

We legalize cannabis and the public realizes just how much safer it is than alcohol how long will it take the public to realize heroin is no worse than alcohol actually a little safer if dosed out by the MG?

When weed is no longer a gateway drug

 

[schuylaar]

@tampee feel free to discuss in this thread...You are articulate and make some good points too apparently not all will agree and some just can't articulate and resort to name calling!

@Unclebaldrick If you can't articulate a mature non trolling response without name calling no matter the posters lifestyle get the fuck out of my thread!


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@Unclebaldrick im surprised at you..shame, for shame

 

[Unclebaldrick]

@Unclebaldrick im surprised at you..shame, for shame

People should not fuck with me on the day the electoral college meets.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Right...I agree with that but as they are losing control of their $$ funding for enforcement they are now trying the end around with CBD...actually I would love to hear the argument for this level other than it is derived from cannabis...

I believe they are trying to schedule Kratom too so they can keep their enforcement funding...but that is a whole nother Pandora's box!

Damn nanny state....

Maybe you should have followed the link to the actual bill instead of just posting somebody else's analysis and just wondering. The DEA response is that any CBD compound currently has traces of THC. This is the same reason they have used for decades to intercept loads of hemp seeds from Canada for the bird seed market.

From your post, I cannot really tell what you are trying to say about this. That there might be a rule change that causes people to update their paperwork earlier than they might otherwise?

 

[Justin-case]

@tampee feel free to discuss in this thread...You are articulate and make some good points too apparently not all will agree and some just can't articulate and resort to name calling!

@Unclebaldrick If you can't articulate a mature non trolling response without name calling no matter the posters lifestyle get the fuck out of my thread!


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Haha! Sticking up for a heroin dealing junkie that also recycles scrap metal for an extra fix. Shit yeah dude, you rock!

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Haha! Sticking up for an articulate heroin dealing junkie that also recycles scrap metal for an extra fix. Shit yeah dude, you rock!

fify

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Exactly no argument from me here on that!

Goes to show...what are the basic reasons for schedule 1...no medical benefits, highly addictive...etc. And CBD meets that how?

Yep don't get started on big Pharma...there is a part in that article which basically states schedule CBD so everyone can go back to Rx opiate analgesics....shit!

Cheers

You are proving to be an interestingcase. You say that there is a paragraph in the article which states that the purpose is to "go back" to opiate analgesics. Are you aware that you posted some guy's analysis and are now using it as the basis for an assertion of fact? Did you read this part too?
(Note: I would love to be wrong about this. If anyone has a more refined understanding of the situation, please by all means educate me.)
Even the author knew he was just stating his opinion but it seems like it kind of got lost on you there, Bud.

Sad you think I am inarticulate. That really hurts from such an accomplished scholar such as you.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

So, fuck the DEA.

 

[tampee]

Only because alchohal is legal. Heroin, and opiates in general, are the fucking devil. No doubt, alcohol cause many problems, but opiates are beyond addictive.
If heroin was legal, the negative effects for society would be 100 fold worse than alchohal...

That's funny opium has been in Europe since Alexander the Great and readily available. It was legal in the USA as morphine and heroin even for many years then the Volstead Act came around. Meanwhile heroin was legal for many years but it was the first opiate outlawed of course prohibitionist were losing the fight against alcohol miserably. The Volstead Act ended and this"new" drug came from Mexico called Marijuana and made negros and Mexicans rape white women.... As for Opium well the white man hated the harder working Chinamen that smoked opium.

If you are for the drug war you are a racist piece of shit.

 

[st0wandgrow]

Idk I mean really for med and rec states we're already following state laws no effects will be felt by us we're not licensed by the dea the grows are licensed thru the state. It does however list cbd as schedule 1 illegal to cross state borders. Could cause issues for hemp seed growers and so on but as far as us legal ones they can't do shit.

Being licensed through a state entity does not mean shit if the Feds decide to get involved. You'd be tried in a federal court, under federal laws which state that marijuana is a schedule 1 drug.

State medical marijuana laws only protect us from state enforcement, and even that is debatable it seems. I've seen plenty of people end up in prison who were in compliance with state laws.