ttystikk
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Look up MKP. It works better to keep your desired ratios.
Ruwtz Maneuver Vol 1
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ruwtz
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Yeah I have it, and I've been using it.
I'm just elaborating on the case for MAP, seems it has its uses.
MisterBouncyBounce
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seriously impressed you did this all on your own. not only was it a massive undertaking, but it's got to be a full time job staying on top of everything.
ruwtz
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Cheers, I appreciate it, and Yep!
ruwtz
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Two more weeks expected on the Gorilla Glue (we're around day 60) except I don't see it swelling any more, perhaps even for the past week or so.
Not particularly large tops either but still getting to know my room and these strains.
Very few white hairs remaining, mostly orange and retracting into the buds.
Trichomes mostly cloudy, although I'm aware this can start fairly early and run for a couple of weeks or more before they start shifting again.
Check out my $6 Amazon microscope + iPhone photography:
Not one to rush things but... i'm feeling like they're close to ready, but on week 8 of a 10 weeker?
I know light intensity and high CO2 saturation can move things along quicker, and it aint smart to just follow the calendar, but could these be done??
Not particularly large tops either but still getting to know my room and these strains.
Very few white hairs remaining, mostly orange and retracting into the buds.
Trichomes mostly cloudy, although I'm aware this can start fairly early and run for a couple of weeks or more before they start shifting again.
Check out my $6 Amazon microscope + iPhone photography:
Not one to rush things but... i'm feeling like they're close to ready, but on week 8 of a 10 weeker?
I know light intensity and high CO2 saturation can move things along quicker, and it aint smart to just follow the calendar, but could these be done??
ruwtz
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Similar story next door with the 24K Gold, 10 week strain and same age as the GG at 8 weeks.
More immature white hairs over here though, and i've watched a late push of these this week, which sometimes feels like the last throw of the dice for pollination.
Buds are no longer swelling but certainly have a little way to go with ripening.
Trichs looking a little less ripe than the GG:
These might go the 10 weeks.
More immature white hairs over here though, and i've watched a late push of these this week, which sometimes feels like the last throw of the dice for pollination.
Buds are no longer swelling but certainly have a little way to go with ripening.
Trichs looking a little less ripe than the GG:
These might go the 10 weeks.
Wisher2
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those look pretty ready
I would probably flush if you havnt started yet with those
and pull them when they start to show amber
ruwtz
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If by flush you mean fade then yes I've begun dialing it back, feed is down 30% over this week 8 so far.
Wisher2
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also those dont look very Glue like to me
I remember you saying they were bag seeds
so showing what else is in glue or maybe something else that pollenated that plant
glue is usually much more bulbous in the calyx department as well way frostier....genetically.....the reason for the glue
in no way am I saying you did anything wrong in your grow
just dosnt look glue to me
I remember you saying they were bag seeds
so showing what else is in glue or maybe something else that pollenated that plant
glue is usually much more bulbous in the calyx department as well way frostier....genetically.....the reason for the glue
in no way am I saying you did anything wrong in your grow
just dosnt look glue to me
ruwtz
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Yeah it's possible to have crossed. It had Glue traits in veg such as leaf curl, and she frosted up real quick in flower.
Could be frostier and I would like fuller buds too.
Overall it could've gone a lot better in flower and hopefully future runs will benefit from fine tuning improvements in setup and skill.
I want to get the feed right, I want to lock down not night time temps and RH (currently too cold and too humid with lack of AC/dehu control), and I want to max bud potential with plant training/pruning and poss defoliation techniques.
A lot on my plate right now!
Could be frostier and I would like fuller buds too.
Overall it could've gone a lot better in flower and hopefully future runs will benefit from fine tuning improvements in setup and skill.
I want to get the feed right, I want to lock down not night time temps and RH (currently too cold and too humid with lack of AC/dehu control), and I want to max bud potential with plant training/pruning and poss defoliation techniques.
A lot on my plate right now!
ttystikk
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I pull mine at 8 weeks and they sure aren't early.
Wisher2
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all may be true
but I just see that those dont look very glue like
maybe your feed isnt dialed in and whatnot but usually you have to have a really off feed and light schedule to make the plant not do what it does
but for the most part .....I congradulate you on a really nice run with great lookin plants
no matter what they are looks pretty good
theguyintheshadows
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Gorilla Glue #4 Scrog
Gorilla Glue #4 "Frosty" looking
Gorilla Glue #4 "Fuzzy and Granular" looking
I just took these pictures minutes ago with different exposure to show how mine look. They are on week 7. This strain came from Tree City in A2. I actually got 12 seeds out of an ounce I purchased there this past spring. Decided to pop them and viola!
ruwtz
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Still in the harvest window for the Gorilla Glue, chopping in the next couple of days. Down to 0.3EC for the past couple of days and running Drip Clean. Table looking really salty.
Trichs looking ripe and milky. No ambers spotted.
Disappointed with the lack of bulking but not too bad for first run in this room and with all new strains.
Plants have been healthy throughout, nice and green til the end.
Built in my drying racks beneath my veg table, watching temps of mid 70's under there and around 60%RH. A little higher than I would like but it does mean I can wet trim which I prefer.
Gonna be a busy week.
Trichs looking ripe and milky. No ambers spotted.
Disappointed with the lack of bulking but not too bad for first run in this room and with all new strains.
Plants have been healthy throughout, nice and green til the end.
Built in my drying racks beneath my veg table, watching temps of mid 70's under there and around 60%RH. A little higher than I would like but it does mean I can wet trim which I prefer.
Gonna be a busy week.
ruwtz
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Done a major pruning in veg this week, cleaning the lower third and larfy branches. Still learning how each strain puts out foliage and best ways to train each one. We're at week 7 in here.
I also had to thin out the numbers due to running way too many in a small space. Kicked out 6 Larry's and a couple of Black Jack's. Wasn't easy but its for the greater good.
This along with the pruning brought the room humidity down to more manageable levels (was hitting 72%, now low 60's).
It is still very dense in there but flipping a bunch this week so not worried.
Small plants in the SIP trays are doing ok, but they have been in cups a little too long and looking root bound. Again, they will benefit from the flip this week and moving up to 1gal pots in veg.
Getting closer to the correct plant count in each area to maximize capacity whilst being able to select the best plants at transplant. Timing just needs to improve so they're not hanging around too long.
Over in the bubble cloners, these were cut 15 days ago and roots have been booming the past 5-6 days with lots of new shoots up top also. I topped where necessary to force two branches right away. No time to waste!
Still undecided and what additives to run, so with two cloners I was able to do a quick side-by-side test with the same strains cut at the same time, all dipped in Hormex IBA powder. Bubblers running tap water at pH6.0.
"A-Bubbler" had H&G Roots Excelurator, which was a free sample from the rep who said it would smash anything else.
See what you think:
Nice clean white roots all the way up the stem:
"B Bubbler" had Clonex Solution, apparently developed specifically for bubble/aero cloners and not the same as the gel. Bottle looks nothing more than a weak feed.
I also added my own mix of fulvic acid and kelp (2:5 ratio) as soon as roots showed. Spoils the control of the experiment somewhat but I will be repeating so whatever.
Roots discolored from the kelp additive, but are noticeably thicker, more robust and certainly longer (ie. more root mass) than A-bubbler. Also rooted slightly quicker.
I did get fast and healthy roots from the previous run using the Clonex solution so it may well have some leprechaun spunk in it after all.
Regardless I am confident this increased rooting is due to the fulvic + kelp combo boosting P uptake. This has been proven by a study and is evidently a smart and simple approach for anyone wanting hardier roots.
In summary: f*ck RE and Clonex.
I also had to thin out the numbers due to running way too many in a small space. Kicked out 6 Larry's and a couple of Black Jack's. Wasn't easy but its for the greater good.
This along with the pruning brought the room humidity down to more manageable levels (was hitting 72%, now low 60's).
It is still very dense in there but flipping a bunch this week so not worried.
Small plants in the SIP trays are doing ok, but they have been in cups a little too long and looking root bound. Again, they will benefit from the flip this week and moving up to 1gal pots in veg.
Getting closer to the correct plant count in each area to maximize capacity whilst being able to select the best plants at transplant. Timing just needs to improve so they're not hanging around too long.
Over in the bubble cloners, these were cut 15 days ago and roots have been booming the past 5-6 days with lots of new shoots up top also. I topped where necessary to force two branches right away. No time to waste!
Still undecided and what additives to run, so with two cloners I was able to do a quick side-by-side test with the same strains cut at the same time, all dipped in Hormex IBA powder. Bubblers running tap water at pH6.0.
"A-Bubbler" had H&G Roots Excelurator, which was a free sample from the rep who said it would smash anything else.
See what you think:
Nice clean white roots all the way up the stem:
"B Bubbler" had Clonex Solution, apparently developed specifically for bubble/aero cloners and not the same as the gel. Bottle looks nothing more than a weak feed.
I also added my own mix of fulvic acid and kelp (2:5 ratio) as soon as roots showed. Spoils the control of the experiment somewhat but I will be repeating so whatever.
Roots discolored from the kelp additive, but are noticeably thicker, more robust and certainly longer (ie. more root mass) than A-bubbler. Also rooted slightly quicker.
I did get fast and healthy roots from the previous run using the Clonex solution so it may well have some leprechaun spunk in it after all.
Regardless I am confident this increased rooting is due to the fulvic + kelp combo boosting P uptake. This has been proven by a study and is evidently a smart and simple approach for anyone wanting hardier roots.
In summary: f*ck RE and Clonex.
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Wisher2
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everything looks great
as for the Harvest
I am not sure what type high you like but I usually wait until I see a few Amber and no clear
just cuz to many clear cause my heart to pound and paranoia to kick in
but with a few Amber and the rest milky is usually the best combo of a good high and then a mellow come down
ruwtz
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Totally agree, but this ain't for me so its growing to order!
ttystikk
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Well, it appears you've moved to the head of the class.
No more beginner bullshit anywhere, in fact I'd say this is cleaner and better run than some dispensary operations I've seen.
Fuckin' A, bro- nice work!
ruwtz
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Means a lot coming from you, friend! Still a long way to go here though. Gotta get me them phat flowers!
I would also like to improve the nursery stage setup (in between cloning and veg). Currently this is a basic SiP as taught to me by @Wisher2, but since they are rooting so well in the cloners moving over to cups isn't really a step up. They are stunting and/or root bound and not growing too healthily. I have bought larger cups but its still far from optimum. Also I have to manually refill the SiP tray water so not ideal compared to all other stages.
I am considering upgrading this to a second stage bubble cloner area, letting them root and shoot before flipping to veg.
Any thoughts?
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ttystikk
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Try it both ways and see which works better for you. I sure didn't see anything going wrong in your setup.