So is The Drumpf.
EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread
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twostrokenut
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No he yurnge.
So then a jack-o-lantern?
twostrokenut
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SneekyNinja
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Like two peas in a stupid-pod.
londonfog
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you should have voted for him
Because it wouldn't have made a difference in a Florida that 'Was With Her'.
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londonfog
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You still should have voted for her. You should have made sure you understood what you needed to do in order to place a vote for Sanders. How many other Sanders supporter did the same as you due to being a low information voter ? Instead of starting threads and puppets on RIU, you should have been making sure you could vote.
Huckster79
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We gotta look forward not knit pick the past. Yes we can learn from it but it can't be our focus. I think true progressives need to keep their finger in the wind for a split ion the GOP. I doubt now it will happen as when push comes to shove they are sheep that will follow Shepard trump. I'd rather see us fight with each other and keep our minds free from uniformity that follow like sheep to a slaughter. True progressives can't form a new party unless the GOP splits, then it's fine. Otherwise if we split the left of center vote combined w their jerrymandering we will make every election a cake walk for them. Our best bet it to rebuild the dem party and make it a party that inspires like Bernie did, Bernie made people proud to be progressive not apologetic for it. We can do that with the party. Think we can't? Look at how the parties have changed over time it can be done..... yes we can and yes we must!
SneekyNinja
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Noone is arguing against Sanders, only his "I told you so" supporters that are spouting talking points about "low turnout" when Hillary actually got more votes than any candidate in history except Obama.
Fogdog
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That the majority did not want Trump is an issue that affects governance but not the outcome of the election. (I know, I'm being Captain Obvious). While I agree that the majority should select the president, there are some good reasons for the EC, one being that it's bias towards smaller populated states means their concerns can't be ignored. I think it is Trump's and the GOP's failure that they didn't convince the majority that their candidate was worth their vote. And so, Trump faces governance issues as well as governing without a mandate that will provide cover for congress when they have to vote on unpopular issues.
Maybe next time, the DNC should work to find candidates that address concerns of voters in more states than just the Northeast and Pacific coasts instead of crying "rigged". Also a DNC that follows it's own rules regarding even handed treatment of candidates would be nice for a change. Trump has four years to show Rust Belt states (OH, MI, WI, PA) that he can bring prosperity back to those regions. I don't think he can and so it's up to Democrats to get behind better candidates than Clinton and have a clean primary. If they do, Trump's damage can be minimized and perhaps some of it reversed.
That said, I'm hoping GOP congress grabs hold of the third rail of politics (SSI, Medicare). We won't have a GOP congress in two years if they do.
'Crying' rigged when indeed it was? Hmmm a candidate better than Clinton?
As for Trump bringing the Rust Belt together? How will this happen when they find out they're getting $200 back annually- and that's it?! If anything this is the end of them as well.
Fogdog
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It's ironic isn't it? "The electoral college is rigged against Democrats!"'Crying' rigged when indeed it was? Hmmm a candidate better than Clinton?
Unclebaldrick
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I thought nobody got banned.
Fogdog
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I have no idea how that works. I just put the sucker on ignore, like I did his earlier account.
