Free CO2 with Living Soil

ttystikk said:
I think you've opened a whole can of worms, actually.

Do you think organic nutes would allow me to grow trees like the ones in the pics? Would I need more than 5 gallon buckets to do it?
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I think in living soil, its tough with anything under 20 gal. Someone can make it work but if you can that the min. in my mind for big trees.
Like a reef tank. People think small 35 gallon would be easy but in fact a 500 gallon has much larger buffering capacity and harder to fuck up. Maybe not apples to oranges.
What is you rh? how do you bring it up? I water as you probably assume;)
 
NaturalFarmer said:
I think in living soil, its tough with anything under 20 gal. Someone can make it work but if you can that the min. in my mind for big trees.
Like a reef tank. People think small 35 gallon would be easy but in fact a 500 gallon has much larger buffering capacity and harder to fuck up. Maybe not apples to oranges.
What is you rh? how do you bring it up? I water as you probably assume;)
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My plants are responsible for all of the RH in the space, my water cooled air handlers run full blast all the time to keep up.

I get the small vs big comparison you're making, that's an apt description.

How do I bring what up?

Each trellis panel is 6' tall by 4' wide, for 24 sq ft. I'm using COB LED lighting. The game I'm playing is 'more yield in the given space' and I've pulled as much as two pounds from my best plants. I want to pull three and do it consistently.
 
NaturalFarmer said:
I'm an asshole bro. I dislike 93.6% of people on my best days. Stupid people? forget about it. No quarter
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So wtf are you doing HERE? LMAO!
Sorry, I just couldn't help myself!

Thanks for helping me better understand your idea. I'm more convinced than ever that soil out gassing in sealed environment agriculture is a viable approach to improved yields.
 
A small amount of P may be needed upon reading this, which could explain why I see a jump in respiration after feeding fish hydrolysate.


"Solvita ® 1-day CO2-C: This result is one of the most important numbers in this soil test procedure. This number in ppm is the amount of CO2-C released in 24 hours from soil microbes after your soil has been dried and rewetted (as occurs naturally in the field). This is a measure of the microbial activity in the soil and is highly related to soil fertility. In most cases, the higher the number, the more fertile the soil.
Microbes exist in soil in great abundance. They are highly adaptable to their environment and their composition, adaptability, and structure are a result of the environment they inhabit. They have adapted to the temperature, moisture levels, soil structure, crop and management inputs, as well as soil nutrient content. In short, they are a product of their environment. If this were not true they most likely would have died out long ago, but they didn’t. Since soil microbes are highly adaptive and are driven by their need to reproduce and by their need for acquiring C, N, and P in a ratio of 100: 10: 1 (C: N: P), it is safe to assume that soil microbes are a dependable indicator of soil health. It is clear that carbon is the driver of the soil nutrient-microbial recycling system. This consistent need sets the stage for a standardized, universal measurement of soil microbial activity. Since most soil microbes take in oxygen and release CO2, we can couple this mechanism to their activity. It follows that soil microbial activity is a response to the level of soil quality/fertility in which they find themselves."

http://www.wardlab.com/haney/haney_info.aspx
 
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tty- I believe the soil ratio of C:N needs to be significantly higher than this ratio at which microbes acquiring CNP ratio (100: 10: 1 (C: N: P) or the food source will quickly be depleted.

Peat moss is the key as the peat bogs are carbon sinks.

It is totally understandable for people to be skeptical as I would have been myself but it is nothing more than soil science and healthy soil respiration.
 
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NaturalFarmer said:
tty- I believe the soil ratio of C:N needs to be significantly higher than this ratio at which microbes acquiring CNP ratio (100: 10: 1 (C: N: P) or the food source will quickly be depleted.

Peat moss is the key as the peat bogs are carbon sinks.

It is totally understandable for people to be skeptical as I would have been myself but it is nothing more than soil science and healthy soil respiration.
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I'M not skeptical. But then, I'm not educated on the subject, at least not in the classical sense.
 
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