basseye
Member
You're not suggesting your grow is a good example of what amare does are you?
Hybridway
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If anyone's interested in an Amare grow. Here's my 2 journals.
First one Amare vs. Hydroponics Hut:
https://www.rollitup.org/p/12749165/
This one here I'm about to post dry weight today. :
https://www.rollitup.org/p/13020451/
Also, something many don't consider often but will yield more then any other led per watt is the SunCloak. It just gave me about 2 pounds (give or take a few oz.) using only 600watts. The SunCloak will yield the most per sq'. 2 pounds is what you would hope to gain using a 1200w DE & I just got that off 600w using the Cloak!
I'd say it's the best light for someone who doesn't have a plant count or is looking to consistently get 8 oz. plants.
The Amares are the best above lighting I can find. Highest par of the closest spectrum to the sun available on the mkt using the enhanced white.
Another big advantage they have over regular cob lights is the veg mode. Plus reflectors can be used in conjunction with the lens option as well.
First one Amare vs. Hydroponics Hut:
https://www.rollitup.org/p/12749165/
This one here I'm about to post dry weight today. :
https://www.rollitup.org/p/13020451/
Also, something many don't consider often but will yield more then any other led per watt is the SunCloak. It just gave me about 2 pounds (give or take a few oz.) using only 600watts. The SunCloak will yield the most per sq'. 2 pounds is what you would hope to gain using a 1200w DE & I just got that off 600w using the Cloak!
I'd say it's the best light for someone who doesn't have a plant count or is looking to consistently get 8 oz. plants.
The Amares are the best above lighting I can find. Highest par of the closest spectrum to the sun available on the mkt using the enhanced white.
Another big advantage they have over regular cob lights is the veg mode. Plus reflectors can be used in conjunction with the lens option as well.
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basseye
Member
So whats the par of that amare @Hybridway ? I ask because you said its the highest so i will have a # to work with when building my cob array
PetFlora
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tell us guru, what's wrong with my grow?
Can anyone explain how to extract usable information from Cree COB's part numbers? such as what bins mean what and what various different versions are,
example would be recently tr to Digikey to find a cob cxb3590 in 5000k and came across at least 6 various part numbers all with slightly different part numbers
example would be recently tr to Digikey to find a cob cxb3590 in 5000k and came across at least 6 various part numbers all with slightly different part numbers
Abiqua
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As nomenclature increases AB - BB - BD so does efficiency % and lumen intensity [read more raw lumen #'s] and sometimes a slight voltage drop also helping the efficiency increase....
So a CXB BD in the same kelvin temp as a CXA AB bin, will have more lumens/watt and slighty less voltage input.
2 step and 4 step binning is how close it is to the kelvin temp...4 step will have a tolerance of 25nm? +- of Kelvin temp in general. Not visible to the naked eye [just in case you ask as well
]True. I just have gone for the Pro9, if you are in usa...I disagree.. Some have spent loads on cob self builds that ain't really all that. In case you haven't noticed, growers pay a high premium for hydroponics gear, lights which is based on the money we make lol Like this black bucket 99 pence. Hydroponics bucket 25 pounds lmao
That light costs 4 ounces dude! 112 grams of weed, which is what? 1/4 of the yield you'd get back in the 1st plant!
I always invest in myself with growing and I always get shit loads more buds and money back. Think what you like, I do disagree with you big time
The Dawg
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I Double Dawg Dare You To Cross This Line______________________________Thats Right Tread Very Lightly When The Dawgs Beloved Vero 29 Angles Are In Da House. Like I Said Cross This line_____________________PPPPssssssssttttt ChallengeWho said i was using the whole driver
Still testing but soon. Waiting on some parts and maybe a new flag to fly under.....View attachment 3798929
New Maximizer look and a nice new price soon as well.
PSUAGRO.
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2.6 umol/j.......... lol, not happening. Think way lower2.63 umol/J eh?how much longer you gonna make us wait?
Wait on the sphere testing imo
....... you may not dig the lens thinglike the new logo
Hybridway
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Did you order yours yet bro? I'm bout to order 2 more Pro-4's, another SE-450 & a few SS-150's.
Next month I hope to get it. I had some other payments that were waiting, still do but, yeah, I hope next month I have the gold. I am super excited. And to be honest, I always wanted a Budmaster but ever since Amare came with the Cob units, especially the Pro9IC, never looked elsewhere. I am no expert but it can't be a bad light... Definetely better then any diy on market.... Have a bunch of cxb laying around... they will go to a vege room for sure.
alesh
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Looking forward the test too.2.6 umol/j.......... lol, not happening. Think way lower
Wait on the sphere testing imo
like the new logo
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CobKits
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he said 1000 umol i just divided my max driver power consumption. i guess i didnt account for fans though. 2.6 is possible with todays chips but is obviously pushing the economics of commercial fixtures to run the chips that soft and 1818s might have a tough time getting there
im not an optics guy in general i like it nekkid.... but they certainly have their placeWait on the sphere testing imo
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puffenuff
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What chips / what setup puts out 2.6? Will the 1818s get there or not?
BM9AGS
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@CobKits @alesh. @robincnn you guys reading this shit. It's gotta be two guys working for the company pushing their product!!! They make shit completely up. Most the lights use low efficiency foods and CXB 3070 which are 20% less efficient than the 3590.
A simple timber grow light kit with his osram reds would crush any amare in efficiently and cost and ppfd and it's not made in China. They literally spread the crap that it's the most efficient. It's not. They even say it's American made. It's not. They say it's the best price for performance. It's not. Has to be a group on here apart of the company that make stories up and completely bogus claims so new readers see it and buy there lights and they score the more net of done naive grower. Wtf
You can't find one page where they don't tag team guys with erroneous claims that are just pulled out of there assses.
I'm gonna start going around saying my CLW lights are brightest LED ever made and most efficient and grows the biggest dirt weed buds you'll ever see. Even tho I know it's all bull shit I'm gonna non stop spread it. So new s buy my average light. That's just sad and actually pathetic you need all that effort and lies to lure over in knowing buyers.
Pathetic!
A simple timber grow light kit with his osram reds would crush any amare in efficiently and cost and ppfd and it's not made in China. They literally spread the crap that it's the most efficient. It's not. They even say it's American made. It's not. They say it's the best price for performance. It's not. Has to be a group on here apart of the company that make stories up and completely bogus claims so new readers see it and buy there lights and they score the more net of done naive grower. Wtf
You can't find one page where they don't tag team guys with erroneous claims that are just pulled out of there assses.
I'm gonna start going around saying my CLW lights are brightest LED ever made and most efficient and grows the biggest dirt weed buds you'll ever see. Even tho I know it's all bull shit I'm gonna non stop spread it. So new s buy my average light. That's just sad and actually pathetic you need all that effort and lies to lure over in knowing buyers.
Pathetic!
sixstring2112
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you cant let it get to you bro,most of us know whats up as far as a good light vs average premade fixtures with nifty lil red n blue lights mixed in.and we cannot possibly look out for new members,just hope they read around and make educated decisions based on what they see all of us doing with the diy stuff.i do find it funny nobody on the amare crew can give any specific par or ppf/ppfd numbers on any of those panels.maybe @Hybridway can open one of his many amare panels and let us have a looksee at the inner workings?
CobKits
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well smaller chips like 1212s and 3070s can definitely be efficient in their operating range, but any fixture using them over 50W/cob is not going to be near the top of the end of efficiency relative to competitors. i mean ill put an array of 1212s at 10W each (not at all ridiculous running a chip that soft @$12 chip) up against just about anything out there. not to mention your coverage becomes immense because the chances of lower branches looking up thru the canopy and seeing an LES vs dark space goes way up. an ideal light source is distributed like a fluorescent but efficient like a cob. the softer you run a cob the more efficient it is. also the softer you run it the more you use per square foot. the more you use per square foot the better your coverage. im digressing. point is, you can have it all. Like the car that Homer designed for his brothers company. "Powerful like a gorilla, yet soft and yielding like a Nerf ball".
Not defending amare, i know nothing about their products. i tried to go to their site but if i cant find a spec among a sea of marketing BS after a few minutes i just lose interest. i saw a ton of single diode stuff and a few cob shots in my travels over there .
compare that to CLW's site where i can go and in 3 clicks i see a price and 400W of osram. or Fluence's site where i can go and see a price and 2.1umol, or PLC/Northern/Johnson/Tasty where i can see a price and 6X cree/vero/citi etc.
amare seems heavy on hype and thin on tech to me, but again thats just a first impression
noobs need lights too. raise your hand if youre using good LEDs now and didnt buy a low quality LED your first or second time. If so you did better than a lot of us.
Makes me proud that we are all here doing the good work to educate people, thats what its about
Not defending amare, i know nothing about their products. i tried to go to their site but if i cant find a spec among a sea of marketing BS after a few minutes i just lose interest. i saw a ton of single diode stuff and a few cob shots in my travels over there .
compare that to CLW's site where i can go and in 3 clicks i see a price and 400W of osram. or Fluence's site where i can go and see a price and 2.1umol, or PLC/Northern/Johnson/Tasty where i can see a price and 6X cree/vero/citi etc.
amare seems heavy on hype and thin on tech to me, but again thats just a first impression
noobs need lights too. raise your hand if youre using good LEDs now and didnt buy a low quality LED your first or second time. If so you did better than a lot of us.
Makes me proud that we are all here doing the good work to educate people, thats what its about
PSUAGRO.
Well-Known Member
Yes on paper it's possible............. possible
People need to realize how good 2ppf/w is at system level...... really good
I'm in a repetitive mood today
Fluence spydrx plus, lsg's vividgrow v2..... with a shit load of osram top bin ssl80 660nm barely pushing past 2.1 umol/w out of a sphere........riu mathzzzzzzzz