Ron Paul to Make Major Announcement Next Week

[GarryFroker]

i hope its a call to arms, all millitia's repoting in revolutionary force to attack after next troop deployment when forces are at the weakest, maybe canada and mexico will help, sure they're sick of all the policy's from the last 50 years.. we could wake board down the potomic, and hotbox the washington memorial.. sadly tho i fear he's going to announce backing one of these duche bag candidates

The only way there could be a civil war that would succeed is if it started at the highest levels of Gov't. and included break away military. Regular Americans fighting a military that is as powerful as ours would die in the millions.

 

[vanauken]

You help make my point. I know more about gun laws than many. All I said was that Right Wing Propaganda is scaring people into believing that their guns are in danger of being taken away and that the 2nd Amendment is weak. The Supreme Court decesion in the DC case proves my point. The NRA is doing the same thing. They want to scare people into thinking the same thing. Why? Money. The more people they can con into that shit the more members they get....the more $$$$$.

And were did I say I worship the main stream media? Now you're making shit up. Hippy? Hardly, and I'm guessing if you saw me in person you wouldn't say that. Lucky you.

seriously, smoke a bowl, make some tea, and smoke another bowl. what a lot of us old skool bush hating republicans, REPUBLICANS not "neoconservative" most folks get em confused..
what we are worried about is the return of clintons assault rifle ban. it goes against 2nd amendment rights becuase if you read the whole amendment and not just the guns part, we have the right to maintain a well regulated militia, so that when a time comes that the tyranny is no longer tolorated by the people that they may stand up and fight to overthrow said tyranny.
now how do plan to achieve this with rifles that hold only 5 rounds, semi auto, shotguns and handguns with no more than 8 rounds? you can't it isn't possible. Iraqi's did an alright job while i was there fucking us up with ak's so there fore we should be allowed to buy ak's to defend ourselves from our own government.
corruption has spread a long way, and more and more americans are waking up from there complacent slumber, the fact is our government democrats in particular, fear any uprising from the people so they try to control our guns and say it's for crime, when in truth the only people gun laws hurt are LEGAL GUN OWNERS
i live in an open carry state, anything anytime in the open or unloaded concealed. thank god new mexico didn't become a state until 1912, otherwise it would have tight wad laws like new york.
limiting our access to posses military grade assault rifles takes away our ability to stand any chance should we fight back.
the pharmaceuticals, ssri's antidepressants, flouride in everyones water, flouride=prozac take away our access to military assault rifles, put pointless numbing dumb television on instead of decent entertainment.. reality tv, american idol, most of this country was glued to greys anatomy till the writers strike.
everything they do is just one more way to control you, hell Catholicism was concocted by rome once the country grew too large to control by conventional standards, don't you think it strange that they went from feeding christians to lions ( not that it isnt funny) to worshiping their god with some minor adjustments, now look how many crazy catholics there are world wide unawares that they're nothing more than tools in the remnants of the roman empire..
however our dollar says in god we trust and every president has been a "seemingly" good christian, but from what ive seen very few christians are in any way good..

 

[vanauken]

The only way there could be a civil war that would succeed is if it started at the highest levels of Gov't. and included break away military. Regular Americans fighting a military that is as powerful as ours would die in the millions.

you'd be suprised how effective insurgency is, the news tells you nothing, when i was in the sandbox iraqi's were fucking us up badly with ied's and ak-47's.. many branches of the military would break away in a cival war. the whole 2nd cav would, it was in our creed we were only loyal to the constitution, but the whole army on the enlisted level is that way.

 

[GarryFroker]

seriously, smoke a bowl, make some tea, and smoke another bowl. what a lot of us old skool bush hating republicans, REPUBLICANS not "neocons" most folks get em confused..
what we are worried about is the return of clintons assault rifle ban. it goes against 2nd amendment rights becuase if you read the whole amendment and not just the guns part, we have the right to maintain a well regulated militia, so that when a time comes that the tyranny is no longer tolorated by the people that they may stand up and fight to overthrow said tyranny.
now how do plan to achieve this with rifles that hold only 5 rounds, semi auto, shotguns and handguns with no more than 8 rounds? you can't it isn't possible. Iraqi's did an alright job while i was there fucking us up with ak's so there fore we should be allowed to buy ak's to defend ourselves from our own government.
corruption has spread a long way, and more and more americans are waking up from there complacent slumber, the fact is our government democrats in particular, fear any uprising from the people so they try to control our guns and say it's for crime, when in truth the only people gun laws hurt are LEGAL GUN OWNERS
i live in an open carry state, anything anytime in the open or unloaded concealed. thank god new mexico didn't become a state untill 1912, otherwise it would have tight wad laws like new york.
limiting our access to posess military grade assault rifles takes away our ability to stand any chance should we fight back.
the pharmaceuticals, ssri's antidepressants, flouride in everyones water, flouride=prozac take away our access to military assualt rifles, put pointless numbing dumb television on instead of decent entertainment.. reality tv, american idol, most of this country was glued to greys anatomy till the writers strike.
everything they do is just one more way to control you, hell catholocism was concoted by rome once the country grew too large to control by conventional standards, don't you think it strange that they went from feeding christians to lions ( not that it isnt funny) to worshiping their god with some minor adjustments, now look how many crazy catholics there are world wide unawares that they're nothing more than tools in the reminants of the roman empire..
however our dollar says in god we trust and every president has been a "seemingly" good christian, but from what ive seen very few christians are in any way good..

If you really think that an assault rifle is going to save America or win a Civil War you have no idea about the thousands of other tools and weapons our military has.....along with the many mercenary companies we employ in Iraq.

I've heard all this before and like I said, people are making money off promoting these fears.

 

[vanauken]

genius, i did 2 tours in iraq, after a few years in the army i think i'd have an idea of what our government's capable of. however i don't think such drastic measures would be deployed on it's own people, secondly how many americans do you think are going to kill americans? most didn't like killing iraqi's, just the marines did. besides, if say the population of salt lake city were to vanish, the world knows enough about subatomic weaponry that all eyes would be on us, either we'd recieve aid, or china would take the chance to invade in all the choas, and believe me we could't win a land battle with china on any grounds.

 

[dknob]

The 2nd doesnt say "Assault rifles" it says not to infringe(THATS THE KEY WORD) on a persons right to own maintain and carry a firearm.

Look up the word Infringe, reread constitution. If I wanted a fucking missile launcher I should be able to have one.

 

[GarryFroker]

The 2nd doesnt say "Assault rifles" it says not to infringe(THATS THE KEY WORD) on a persons right to own maintain and carry a firearm.

Look up the word Infringe, reread constitution. If I wanted a fucking missile launcher I should be able to have one.

Hardly. A missile launcher isn't a fire arm. Our founding fathers knew that or else every body would have had a canon and it would have said so in the Constitution.

 

[dknob]

Oh really thats what they would have done? Wow thats crazy, thank you for informing me. Next time you participate on inter-dimensional time travel please PM me so I can be a multi-dimensional history scholar like you.

 

[GarryFroker]

Oh really thats what they would have done? Wow thats crazy, thank you for informing me. Next time you participate on inter-dimensional time travel please PM me so I can be a multi-dimensional history scholar like you.

You seem to like to read minds. Forget the time travel (there is no such thing, sorry to blow your mind with that little nugget). Maybe you should learn to read a little about history? That would help.

 

[medicineman]

seriously, smoke a bowl, make some tea, and smoke another bowl. what a lot of us old skool bush hating republicans, REPUBLICANS not "neoconservative" most folks get em confused..
what we are worried about is the return of clintons assault rifle ban. it goes against 2nd amendment rights becuase if you read the whole amendment and not just the guns part, we have the right to maintain a well regulated militia, so that when a time comes that the tyranny is no longer tolorated by the people that they may stand up and fight to overthrow said tyranny.
now how do plan to achieve this with rifles that hold only 5 rounds, semi auto, shotguns and handguns with no more than 8 rounds? you can't it isn't possible. Iraqi's did an alright job while i was there fucking us up with ak's so there fore we should be allowed to buy ak's to defend ourselves from our own government.
corruption has spread a long way, and more and more americans are waking up from there complacent slumber, the fact is our government democrats in particular, fear any uprising from the people so they try to control our guns and say it's for crime, when in truth the only people gun laws hurt are LEGAL GUN OWNERS
i live in an open carry state, anything anytime in the open or unloaded concealed. thank god new mexico didn't become a state until 1912, otherwise it would have tight wad laws like new york.
limiting our access to posses military grade assault rifles takes away our ability to stand any chance should we fight back.
the pharmaceuticals, ssri's antidepressants, flouride in everyones water, flouride=prozac take away our access to military assault rifles, put pointless numbing dumb television on instead of decent entertainment.. reality tv, american idol, most of this country was glued to greys anatomy till the writers strike.
everything they do is just one more way to control you, hell Catholicism was concocted by rome once the country grew too large to control by conventional standards, don't you think it strange that they went from feeding christians to lions ( not that it isnt funny) to worshiping their god with some minor adjustments, now look how many crazy catholics there are world wide unawares that they're nothing more than tools in the remnants of the roman empire..
however our dollar says in god we trust and every president has been a "seemingly" good christian, but from what ive seen very few christians are in any way good..

Take this advice. Go out and purchase your AK/SKs now in case the dems get an assault rifle ban, it will only apply to new purchases. Trying to get a retroactive ban would be impossible. No-one I know is about to give up their assault rifles. The whole gist of the assault rifle ban is because those rounds can penetrate a cops vest, and they never want to be on even par with criminals, IMHO, cops are not brave, they are chickenshit adrenaline junkies, as long as the odds are on their side, they attack. The brave civil servants are the firefighters.

 

[ViRedd]

Hardly. A missile launcher isn't a fire arm. Our founding fathers knew that or else every body would have had a canon and it would have said so in the Constitution.

I think ... notice I said THINK ... that the founders would have had no problem with the citizens owning a cannon. In fact, ordinary citizens used to use cannons as lawn decorations.

And, Garry ... on that Supreme Court D.C. decision: We came within one vote of losing our 2nd Amendment rights. That's a fact and not "right wing propaganda,"

Vi

 

[GarryFroker]

And, Garry ... on that Supreme Court D.C. decision: We came within one vote of losing our 2nd Amendment rights. That's a fact and not "right wing propaganda,"

Vi

See? This is the right wing propaganda at work. Fear, fear, fear.

 

[ZenMaster]

See? This is the right wing propaganda at work. Fear, fear, fear.

Its not fear, fear, fear. Its factual, we got to one vote of losing the second amendment whether you come to terms with it or not is your own problem. But it is very alarming that it got so close, next time it won't.

The second amendment says nothing about what kinds of arms you can carry, so there should be no restriction, regardless of what you "think" the founders meant and all that.

The amendment was mainly defending local militias, but now if you tried to get a militia started you would get the ATF, FBI, NSA all over your biz.

 

[GarryFroker]

Its not fear, fear, fear. Its factual, we got to one vote of losing the second amendment whether you come to terms with it or not is your own problem. But it is very alarming that it got so close, next time it won't.

The second amendment says nothing about what kinds of arms you can carry, so there should be no restriction, regardless of what you "think" the founders meant and all that.

The amendment was mainly defending local militias, but now if you tried to get a militia started you would get the ATF, FBI, NSA all over your biz.

1 vote from the DC ban but I don't think for me. I live in Texas, do you REALLY think anybody is going to take MY guns? Think again. The 2nd Amendment will never be in danger of going away as long as we are Americans. We already have more guns than any country in the world and I'll bet my plants that we will keep making and selling them for many years to come.

 

[ZenMaster]

1 vote from the DC ban but I don't think for me. I live in Texas, do you REALLY think anybody is going to take MY guns? Think again. The 2nd Amendment will never be in danger of going away as long as we are Americans. We already have more guns than any country in the world and I'll bet my plants that we will keep making and selling them for many years to come.

Think again.

If the liberals get what they want, no where is safe, including Texas. They will disarm the populace in the name of "safety" but it is truly a guise for their fear of the people.

Communist bastards.

 

[GarryFroker]

Think again.

If the liberals get what they want, no where is safe, including Texas. They will disarm the populace in the name of "safety" but it is truly a guise for their fear of the people.

Communist bastards.

You haven't lived in Texas or the South have you? I'm a Liberal and I have guns. You need to get out and meet people. There are many Libs like me and if anybody called my father a commie he would have flattened their ass. You are making blanket assumptions on things you have limited knowledge of.

"They will disarm the populace in the name of "safety" but it is truly a guise for their fear of the people."

Now this makes no sense. Afraid of the people? Come on. lol

 

[ZenMaster]

You haven't lived in Texas or the South have you? I'm a Liberal and I have guns. You need to get out and meet people. There are many Libs like me and if anybody called my father a commie he would have flattened their ass. You are making blanket assumptions on things you have limited knowledge of.

"They will disarm the populace in the name of "safety" but it is truly a guise for their fear of the people."

Now this makes no sense. Afraid of the people? Come on. lol

I live in Oklahoma.

I been to Texas many, many times.

And yes, the government SHOULD be afraid of the people, not the other way around. They want to disarm the populace in case of any revolts that might occur during their socialist take over.

Seriously look at the evidence, schools are now teaching not to fight back when getting beat up, go get the principal. Never resist when getting robbed, contact the authorities. Don't do anything by yourself. They are raping personal responsibility and replacing it with a sense of security. Why would we need guns when you have the police? This is their logic, and it is skewed. I am an advocate of self protection and responsibility, and they are trying to take it away.

 

[GarryFroker]

I live in Oklahoma.

I been to Texas many, many times.

And yes, the government SHOULD be afraid of the people, not the other way around. They want to disarm the populace in case of any revolts that might occur during their socialist take over.

Seriously look at the evidence, schools are now teaching not to fight back when getting beat up, go get the principal. Never resist when getting robbed, contact the authorities. Don't do anything by yourself. They are raping personal responsibility and replacing it with a sense of security. Why would we need guns when you have the police? This is their logic, and it is skewed. I am an advocate of self protection and responsibility, and they are trying to take it away.

I have to tell you, I don't live in the world you live in. I can't. I don't see it happening and I'm very aware of the world around me. Not everybody is out to rob me or hurt me. No political party is out to make me unsafe and no political party is going to outlaw guns. Why? Because of the same reason why Republicans will NEVER outlaw abortion. If they did they would never win another election. If the Dems tried that with guns the same thing would happen. They would loose my vote.

 

[ZenMaster]

I have to tell you, I don't live in the world you live in. I can't. I don't see it happening and I'm very aware of the world around me. Not everybody is out to rob me or hurt me. No political party is out to make me unsafe and no political party is going to outlaw guns. Why? Because of the same reason why Republicans will NEVER outlaw abortion. If they did they would never win another election. If the Dems tried that with guns the same thing would happen. They would loose my vote.

You are very naive then, you do not know the world around you. They don't need your "approval" for the second amendment. Its Congress that is doing it. And they are trying very very hard to get guns outlawed, all in the name of safety.

If we outlaw guns, then criminals won't get them!! Yeah, like that law is going to stop them. They just want the populace disarmed.

Abortion and Gun laws should not be on the same page. They are very different how one is a moral issue while the other is very serious issue protected by an amendment.

 

[GarryFroker]

Abortion and Gun laws should not be on the same page. They are very different how one is a moral issue while the other is very serious issue protected by an amendment.

That doesn't matter. What matters is how people feel about them. And both have been brought up to the Supreme Court.