Geronimo420
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just use silica blast or growtec pro-silicate
Anybody know how to extract silica from bamboo?
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greasemonkeymann
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yeah... I gotcha there.Welcome.
We went around and around with this topic a while back on here. Silica appears to be one of those items where it's really tied up unless a solvent is used. I would prefer to go about it 100% organically too, but Im not sure that the juice would be worth the squeeze. Pro-tekt is so effective, and so little of it is used, that I just can't see myself fiddling with bamboo or horsetail trying to unlock the same goodies.
Doesn't mean I'll stop throwing a couple sprigs in my FPEs..
I mean why the hell not.. I have comfrey, dandelion in there so why not?
But yeah...
Just sorta sucks because I have so much access to bamboo.
BUT it is interesting that bamboo may have some use as far as for a Microbial innoculant
st0wandgrow
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That is damn interesting! You could probably pull a bamboo shoot up and plunk that root mass/ball of earth right in to a bucket and brew away.... or add it to your soil bin. Either way, sounds like it would be loaded with BIM's
cannakis
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Yes I understand but I would Guarantee that protek does Not use "organic" methods, most everything needs some sort of technology and certain compounds (chemicals) to extract or produce Other Certain compounds (chemicals). "CHIMICAL, a. [See Chimistry.] 1. Pertaining to chimistry; as a chimical operation. 2. Resulting from the operation of the principles of bodies by decomposition, combination, &c.; as chimical changes. 3. According to the principles of chimistry; as a chimical combination." from Noah Webster's 1828 "American Dictionary of The English Language." So according to Definition No. 2 even Composting and Building Soil is a Chemical. Electrolysis was introduced over 200 years ago and was a huge step in Separating Compounds,
The word electrolysis comes from the Greek ἤλεκτρον [ɛ̌ːlektron] "amber" and λύσις [lýsis] "dissolution".
- 1785 – Martinus van Marum's electrostatic generator was used to reduce tin, zinc, and antimony from their salts using electrolysis.[1]
- 1800 – William Nicholson and Anthony Carlisle (view also Johann Ritter), decomposed water into hydrogen and oxygen.
- 1807 – Potassium, sodium, barium, calcium and magnesium were discovered by Sir Humphry Davy using electrolysis.
- 1833 – Michael Faraday develops his two laws of electrolysis, and provides a mathematical explanation of his laws.
- 1875 – Paul Émile Lecoq de Boisbaudran discovered gallium using electrolysis.[2]
- 1886 – Fluorine was discovered by Henri Moissan using electrolysis.
- 1886 – Hall-Héroult process developed for making aluminium
- 1890 – Castner-Kellner process developed for making sodium hydroxide
All I Am saying is that sometimes you have to use "chemicals" to get the results you want, i mean i always thought that Sulfur was a Pure "evil" Chemical that was Never supposed to be used in "organic" Husbandry, but never say never because it can actually be Derived from Sustainable Agricultural methods--through True Husbandry--instead of depleting Fossil Mines, and it In Small degrees Adds to Microbial Life (Thanks to you and everyone else by the way for all your help!!!). But what I Am trying to say... to make a long story short... is to maybe look at what the Chemicals involved are, and maybe you could Extract the Silica with Ethanol, or Boiling in Water, or Oil, maybe even trying to see Exactly what the Compounds are used to extract the Silica and Extract Those specific compounds... and well to make a long story short...
But i would bet money Protek Uses Chemical Processes. If not then Try to Figure out their "Trade Secrets". Damn False "free" Market.!.
hyroot
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AgSil from build a soil is organic. It takes a week to show up. I hate to admit it but I have pro tekt. I've only been using it with the aero cloner. It was cheaper and easier to get at the time. The rock dust we use has silica and some species of aloe have silica as well.
They should really change the name of AgSil to something else..
They should really change the name of AgSil to something else..
cannakis
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But how is it derived? Minerals or vegetation?
I need to get some AgSil!
Yeah actually kelp4less states their omri silica is pulverized mined silicon.
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DonBrennon
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Bumping............... @greasemonkeymann, what did you settle on, cos I've got shit loads of horsetail and goosegrass(also high in sillica) in my (older) compost and in my FPE, and I'm having to stake and support everything. I have got some liquid potassium silicate, but I only use that If I'm gonna do a neem foliar. Do you think I should be adding a little with ever watering or so?
greasemonkeymann
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I wish I had a profound conclusion, but with silica its SO hard to see if it's doing much to begin with.
I did topdresses with horsetail (takes a LONG time to breakdown), and I also did topdresses with bamboo leaves (again takes forever)
soooo...
I just use pro-tekt...
I like to do an aloe, pro-tekt, and coco water tea to them two or three times during early flower.
the only tea I use in fact
DonBrennon
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Thanks, I might start adding a little during stretch see if I notice the benefits.
DonBrennon
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just wipe it on yer t-shirt and get on with it....whats wrong with ya? pmsl
Fastslappy
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any rock dusts ? I use like 3 different ones plus Diatomaceous earth
all have high silica
your benies should break it down to a plant usable form
all have high silica
your benies should break it down to a plant usable form
DonBrennon
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are we still talking about silica? lol
Fastslappy
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horsetail i spray that daily too pm issues the reason
Fastslappy
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poison oak & it's fire season here not a good mix
the smoke is bad when PO is burned & PO grows in all the forests here
i remember a buddy wipin his ass with po hours later he got a helicopter ride
greasemonkeymann
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VTMi'kmaq
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that stuff grows like weeds near the local wetlands.