EXPERIMENTS 101 - What Have You Tried - What Works/Doesn't Work

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Johnny indica

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Miracle grow? I was growing my plant at a buddy's housewhile he grew his . He bought it from a grower in mg topsoil. Looked great in veg, mine (coco) was half dead when it moved to his house. Under one 150 hps each. his grew massive. (7 feet due to astronomical nitrogen levels) but hermied like a motherfucker. Mine was just bagseed, half the height in the end and my buds were 3x the yeild, plump and tasty. His were airy as hell and covered in male flowers. He yielded about 14 grams of barely smokable shit. He took 40% of my plant as "grow rent" and I still had a sizeable harvest of an ounce
 
moparhomo

moparhomo

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Here's something I tried that didn't work, though I didn't think it would. These clones got wpm and I didn't feel like dealing with them. I gave them only orange juice to see if they would somehow live, they survived a little over a week!
 

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rob333

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hempygrower said:
I am SO tired of coming on these forums and hearing all of the haters. For example - someone reads about grows in a set-up they are not familiar with, and start bashing. Yet, THEY don't have any successful harvests under their thumb, lol. How do they know? Because they smoke the herb I GROW, and then bash? Where are your harvests? Where is your EXPERIENCE?

This really makes me laugh. I have been tokin' and growing longer than some of you KIDS have been ALIVE lol. I am not saying I am the almighty in pot growing 'cuz I'm not. Nowhere close.

BUT-

The following are "tricks" I have actually DONE, and have not just read.

I will present different techniques I have come across on these forums and have wondered about, and offer first hand experience.

Feel free to contribute, bash, offer advice, amend erroneous info...i won't be offended.

#1. You can't grow weed with Miracle Grow.

Answer- WRONG. You can...AND very SUCCESSFULLY. Back before many of you kids were born, I threw beans in Miracle Gro potting soil. Never added anything but water, and harvested some amazing buds. Even did it under CFL...sure the harvest was minimal...maybe 14-29g, BUT not because of the Miracle Gro ... it was the CFLs.

Point is, if you have-
1. Correct ph
2. Temps/humidity under control
3. Proper lights

you WILL produce.

Look, Nitrogen is Nitrogen, whether Miracle Gro makes it, it General Hydroponics ( both are now owned by MONSANTO...LOOK IT UP)... Go ahead and pay the man with your slave money... Me? I am growing fine without calmag, gh nutes, advanced nutes, or any of the other grave robbers lol that call themselves COMPASSIONATE.

#2. Giving your plants 24 hour darkness before flipping to flower

Answer- when I did this, my plants FREAKED OUT... BUT, they shocked only for 24-36 hours before settling down. I did this with a RESERVA PRIVADA Kandy Kush...she was a clone, and ended up being phenotype"fast blossoming indica dominant" ... she showed pistils in SIX DAYS..... but..... I also ran

#3. 11 on 13 off light cycle for flowering

Answer- plants did wonderful, don't feel I lost a lot of weight, but then again I am not in this for the money.

it is my PASSION. I LOVE THIS PLANT and all it brings to humanity. Should be free and available to EVERYONE.

Hence this thread...more to come as I "experiment ".

I leave you with this thought for now...

Don't believe everything you read, EVEN what I wrote here.

TRY IT. GET ACTUAL EXPERIENCE.

Anyone can read and bash...they are the ignorant egotistical mofos that read Cervantes, Rosenthal, and all the rest of the "masters" lol and think they know it all, as they pump out hundreds of dollars for nutes that create for under $15...and it is enough food for at least 30 plants over 5 months.

Am I "growing master"? Lol..NOT EVEN CLOSE. DON'T ask me how to do this or that, I don't know. BUT, I urge you to GO FOR IT.

At the end if the day, NONE OF US know how this really works. We "guess" and get a "feel for it."

And that only comes with experience.

SO- please DO share actual experience with what you have found... please DO NOT regurgitate the crap you have READ ONLY.

Don't say, " Well I have HEARD..."

Please say, "Well, I DID ...this.... DID NOT do this, etc."

Let's "WEED" out the TRUTH about WEED, amongst the vipers of the MMJ community of the universe.

Peace love and grease

Checking out for another month or so, to reap reap reap, while you naysayers weep weep weep.
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tropicalcannabispatient

tropicalcannabispatient

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moparhomo said:
Here's something I tried that didn't work, though I didn't think it would. These clones got wpm and I didn't feel like dealing with them. I gave them only orange juice to see if they would somehow live, they survived a little over a week!
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Thag looks terrible. And i. Drunk so ma opjnion is shit righgt now
 
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primabudda

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ok before i just died i was going to say something about MG which i still will.





ok, so chemical nutes i.e Mg is exactly the same as organic but with a loose salt molecule attached so it can be dissolved in water and uptaken by the plant.

There is no difference between an organic molecule of N, and a chemical N apart from the loose salt molecule.

So there is no such thing as chem or organic.


it's the beanie workings stuff that chem nutes lack that's all.



So you can CAN grow killer buds with Mg. But you'll get a better result smell wise and taste etc with 'organic'


Mg is actually heavily packed with micro nutes and high in npk %, so it's prob the best 'chem' nutes you can buy for the bucks. It's also is blue !! which helps determine the strength of the solution by the how dark or light the blue water looks :)


ok Mg class over :)
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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ttystikk said:
Experiments! Yeah, I've done a few lol

Let's see;

Vertical growing; yep, works!

HID lighting; works but inefficient

Water cooled COB LED; yes it works, and it's efficient!

RDWC; works but inconsistent

Tupur; works!

SIPS; still testing, results are being vetted

Water chilling as HVAC; works!

I could go on, but only if folks are interested.
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I kinda hate to ask this here but, did an increased darkness before the flip do anything for you?

You seem to be wanting someone to ask that question.
 
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Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Odin* said:
How can you doubt Dr. Who? He never lies. He has Chem from 1989. He has tons of grow logs. He doesn't just google everything and pretend it's his personal experience. Come on man, surely you've seen his dank pics.

I'm sure he knows what he is doing. However, I have run tests over the course of 5 years on hundreds of strains and all of the science available on the subject supports my conclusion (and one article does so almost to the "Hour"). I have been exposing my plants to 24hrs of dark pre-12/12 for 10 years.

Some of the information I posted is old, some is recent discoveries, but nothing I've found contradicts my own findings.

Edit- What is happening here? I can't segment quotes and now I quote Captn and it doesn't properly "quote". Shenanigans!
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And there it is! Boy did I fuck up trying to get someone with the right knowledge to contact me on that - so I could look for a now gone strain......And he wants to quote Sticky too. Who the fuck is HE anyway? Where's his great helping hand of knowledge and bountiful collection of "dank pics". I don't see any "grow log" of yours......

You know your shit! It's easy to see in your postings. I respect your research but, What happened Odin? We were talking nice here. Now you have to throw out the insults? I wonder why? Were my conclusions to the paper making you feel like you were using them to justify what you feel is happening when you put your plants in 24hrs of darkness? The second link was not even a paper!

The science available was interpreted by someone looking to justify personal beliefs on old school ideals. I think your interpretation is flawed and that's as close to an insult as I'll get on that.

I feel your use of sticky's point of view and going to insult town, is a desperate attempt at discrediting Me.....Now why would you want to do that?

Kinda funny how the bulk of people who have tried extended darkness - don't do it....
Wonder how come any commercial op I've ever been in, doesn't! Kinda think they would, don't you? I mean a cost-free way to increase yields!

If what you say were true, how come it was not big news at some point and that everyone does it?

I wonder why every time some people feel like they're loosing control of what they believe - They have go into "attack" mode?
We could have played nice. You chose to insult. If you feel this is insulting - to bad.

This started as a simple difference of opinion.

I'm done!
 
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boilingoil

boilingoil

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IMO, anything overt 24 hours of dark is detrimental to the plants as chlorophyll degradation starts occurring. And what about the loss of ATP levels from the lack of photosynthesis?
From my experience it's plants with the less stressors' that always yield the best.
 
Odin*

Odin*

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Dr. Who said:
And there it is! Boy did I fuck up trying to get someone with the right knowledge to contact me on that - so I could look for a now gone strain......And he wants to quote Sticky too. Who the fuck is HE anyway? Where's his great helping hand of knowledge and bountiful collection of "dank pics". I don't see any "grow log" of yours......

You know your shit! It's easy to see in your postings. I respect your research but, What happened Odin? We were talking nice here. Now you have to throw out the insults? I wonder why? Were my conclusions to the paper making you feel like you were using them to justify what you feel is happening when you put your plants in 24hrs of darkness? The second link was not even a paper!

The science available was interpreted by someone looking to justify personal beliefs on old school ideals. I think your interpretation is flawed and that's as close to an insult as I'll get on that.

I feel your use of sticky's point of view and going to insult town, is a desperate attempt at discrediting Me.....Now why would you want to do that?

Kinda funny how the bulk of people who have tried extended darkness - don't do it....
Wonder how come any commercial op I've ever been in, doesn't! Kinda think they would, don't you? I mean a cost-free way to increase yields!

If what you say were true, how come it was not big news at some point and that everyone does it?

I wonder why every time some people feel like they're loosing control of what they believe - They have go into "attack" mode?
We could have played nice. You chose to insult. If you feel this is insulting - to bad.

This started as a simple difference of opinion.

I'm done!
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I didn't insult you in the post you are referring to and I haven't intended to insult you... ever. I, too, have enjoyed the "back and forth". In fact, I was sincerely looking forward to your response to my last post (I've added it below).

Were you offended by me saying "all of the science..."? You shouldn't take that personal, I say that because I haven't read anything "peer reviewed" that contradicts my own findings.

Was it about the "quote Shenanigans"? That wasn't at all aimed towards you. I was quoting your post yesterday and two "end quotes" we're being added to the end of my post (automatically by site software). I could not delete them (after saving changes they returned). These "end quotes" encased the bulk of my response within your quote. I did find the error, a missing slash ("/") in the second segment of what I was quoting (I still don't see why the software would add the "end quotes" behind my response). I mentioned "quote Shenanigans" in my response to Captn because I quoted him and a good portion of the quote was not within the "quote".

Again, I'm not sure what you interpreted as an insult, but I haven't thrown so much as a "jab". Very sorry if something I said rubbed you the wrong way. Being sincere here.


Anyhow, I was eagerly awaiting your response to my last post (below), or are you utilizing a clever tactic and diverting again (now I AM" ribbing" you a bit).
 
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