bearkat42
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It should indeed, but white men have been OK with it in this country for 400+ years.
"I can't get mad that the system is rigged against the white guy." -Whoopi Goldberg
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Padawanbater2
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And that was wrong too
As is grouping me with white men that have been OK with slavery
I feel like you make no distinctions between us; those that condoned and supported slavery and those that don't who just happen to be born of a certain color skin
bearkat42
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You use the term "was" like anything has changed. donald trump is the republican nominee for POTUS in 2016, not 1916 or 1816. As far as making a distinction between you and the racists that I'm referring to, if the shoe doesn't fit man, you shouldn't concern yourself so much with wearing it.
Padawanbater2
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As if your previous post wasn't an accusation in itself
I'm white, so according to you, I'm partly culpable for the actions of all white people because I may or may not have benefitted from living in a society dominated by white culture, on account of the color of my skin
Tell me, are you culpable for the actions of all black people because of the color of your skin?
It would be racist of me to condemn you for the actions of your ancestors based on the color of your skin and ignorant to wish to hold you or your descendants accountable for the hardships my ancestors went through
bearkat42
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So this is the game that you want to play? And the fact that you've benefitted isn't in question.
In America? Yes I am.
Ancestors? How about the fucking hardships that black folks are going through in 2016, in which the white power structure is directly responsible?
Padawanbater2
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The fact that I've benefited is in question
I'd been poor my entire life up until I became an adult, and I live in a place where it's ~50/50 white/Mexican. I can see where you're coming from, places like the south are probably just as you describe. I've been there a few times myself. But where I'm from, that's just not the way I see it..
I think the main problem you face is grouping all white people into one generic category. I don't take offense to much, but I certainly do to the accusation that all "my people" are evil
Remind me again how exactly I make up "the white power structure"?
bearkat42
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No it isn't.
Yes, because racism only exists in the south.
Welcome to my world.
Never said that you were a part of it. Only that you've benefitted from it. Stop being so sensitive.
Antidisestablishmentarian
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I guess you haven't listened all these years:
You're white. That's all that matters.
bearkat42
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Oh man. Are your feelings hurt too?
zeddd
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she is a stupid fat fuck
zeddd
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your president is black and has been for at least 8 years
bearkat42
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xmatox
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This is a great point. I too live in a place where the general demographic is pretty diverse. It seems like there are people in this world that only see life from one view, that's it. Black, White, or whatever "color" you are shouldn't matter. The government should be the problem, not white people. Last time I checked the government gives orders which trickle down through all bureaucracies, resulting in systemic racism.
Maybe a rich white kid, not a poor white kid.... The first lady to run for president was in 1862, so your off on that.... and they were definitely grooming Obama since he was in college..so let's settle on 1980 there.... I feel like you hate YOUR own life, therefore project this hatred onto people. Seems very interesting to me that you generalize white people for generalizing black people.....There have been more black people in office then Mexicans and Asians.... so where's the racism there?Thanks for the info.
SneekyNinja
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Not at all what she's saying.
Sexist & racist, brilliant job, Whoopi
The deck has been stacked towards old white men for a very long time, she's implying that it's better now that it's not.
bearkat42
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Society forces me to see it that way. The ultimate display of privilege is the ability to say "I don't see "color". Only white people get to do that.
White people run the government. It doesn't run itself.
So systematic racism just kinda "happens"? Got it.
I'm curious, did she win? Groomed since 1980? Lol, Obama was elected in 2008.
I'm actually quite pleased with my life, but this was never just about me.
If true, and if it's something that they view as problematic, that's something that Mexicans and Asians are going to have to address.
xmatox
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I can now see that you are as dumb as a bag of rocks.....How can you say the government is run by whites when the president is black? Your own people are failing you, not just white people.... Your meme was bullshit. Did she win? No, but then you should have had a meme that said so, not "I can be president since tuesday". Systematic racism doesn't just "happen", but blaming the white population vs. blaming the old whites in government are two different arguments. Most people I converse with agree that the issue isn't the 28yr old white guy, it's the 55yr olds and older. Why do you see white people marching with black lives matter, or supporting Bernie who wants to fix these racial issues... yet all white people are racist....
bearkat42
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Yeah, now that changes everything.
You're right. It's the old whites IN office. It has nothing to do with the millions of like minded individuals who keep voting them in.
Am I to ignore the white people who protest BLM, or the white people who support trump. Never said all white people are racist. Infact, in my original post I clearly stated that if the shoe doesn't fit, you shouldn't concern yourself with wearing it. I know that I said it, because I was there when I said it.
xmatox
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Let me ask you this, what is your answer to all this? All I have ever heard from anyone is the ability to point blame. There has been zero responsibility taken on any side. There has been little to no action taken by any side to progress. So now what? How do we proceed to remove and replace almost 500,000 government positions? Because I'm all for it...
You're right in that you didn't state all white people are racist, but as you stated previously, whites all benefit from a white privilege. How would you know? I would assume you believe there is no way whites could understand anyone else, so what makes you have the ability to understand someone else? So you're not saying we are all racist, just saying we all benefit from racism... Whats the difference?
desert dude
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Wow. I think my head is going to explode. I agree with Paddy.
desert dude
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Until the nuclear family structure is restored, things are only going to get worse. For all of us. The Democratic party scorns this notion, and most of the glib racists on RIU do as well. Look where that scorn has gotten us.
"In 1960, the year before Obama was born, 22 percent of black children lived with single parents. In 1968, the number rose to 31.4 percent. By 2006, the 1960 percentage had more than doubled to 56 percent.
In 2006, 91.4 percent of single parents of black children were mothers. That figure hasn't changed over the years. In 1960, it was a shade lower at 91 percent.
The figures for single-parent families show a rosier picture among other races. About 28 percent of children of all races lived with a single parent in 2006. In 1960, only about 9 percent of American children lived with a single parent.
And the single parents are overwhelmingly women. "
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/jun/23/barack-obama/statistics-dont-lie-in-this-case/
"In 1960, the year before Obama was born, 22 percent of black children lived with single parents. In 1968, the number rose to 31.4 percent. By 2006, the 1960 percentage had more than doubled to 56 percent.
In 2006, 91.4 percent of single parents of black children were mothers. That figure hasn't changed over the years. In 1960, it was a shade lower at 91 percent.
The figures for single-parent families show a rosier picture among other races. About 28 percent of children of all races lived with a single parent in 2006. In 1960, only about 9 percent of American children lived with a single parent.
And the single parents are overwhelmingly women. "
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/jun/23/barack-obama/statistics-dont-lie-in-this-case/