Are there really strains with 30% thc?

Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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Just look at par charts of t5's then compare them to LEDs or HID lights why do I got to do all the work you should know from experience that CFL/T5 are mainly for veg or cloning because of lack of intensity.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Yodaweed said:
Yeah I hadn't until like 2 years ago at the cannabis cup these ppl that placed like 3rd let me smoke some of their veganic and it changed my mind about how to grow, I used to use hydroponics and bottled nutes then I started growing organic and finally mastered that then I wanted to learn veganic so last year I started learning veganic organic growing and it turned it great so I am continuing to learn about it, mainly the bacteria in your soil is feeding your plant and you feed them and only sometimes give the plant a little bit of food , mainly feed the soil I think its also called probiotic farming and definitely is a method of no-till.
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veganic is just stupid.
i'm sorry.
bacteria, fungal life, microbial life, worms, etc, etc.
it's ALLLLLL predicated on animals and their byproducts.
You said you made the soil and leaf compost, didja SEE any bugs in it?
call it what you want but it's like that hippie "vegan" chick wearing leather shoes and having a leather purse washing down her mocha chai with whole milk.
anyways.
 
2easy

2easy

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greasemonkeymann said:
veganic is just stupid.
i'm sorry.
bacteria, fungal life, microbial life, worms, etc, etc.
it's ALLLLLL predicated on animals and their byproducts.
You said you made the soil and leaf compost, didja SEE any bugs in it?
call it what you want but it's like that hippie "vegan" chick wearing leather shoes and having a leather purse washing down her mocha chai with whole milk.
anyways.
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im an organic farmer and yes i did see bugs in it, still do every time i lift up the mulch i see tons of worms, i see millions of tiny little shredders running around going about their business. why do you ask? whats your point?
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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2easy said:
im an organic farmer and yes i did see bugs in it, still do every time i lift up the mulch i see tons of worms, i see millions of tiny little shredders running around going about their business. why do you ask? whats your point?
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His point is, you cannot avoid using animal bi products if you grow organically. You rely on nematodes, bacteria, fungie, etc. when they process the amendments in your soil they either shit it out, or get killed, which releases the nutrient value of your inputs. Not to mention worm shit.

If you want to get technical, there is no way to grow "veganically" when growing organically.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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No
Yodaweed said:
T5 = most inefficient growing light source available, it will grow buds but you gonna use a lot more watts to grow the same buds someone can grow more of for less with HID or LEDs or the sun.
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No sir. That is old info. Years ago that was true. Now t5 is closer to hid in efficiency.

Also it comes down to spectrum. You blast your plant all you want with a more efficient light but is its not using all of it then which one is better.
 
2easy

2easy

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st0wandgrow said:
His point is, you cannot avoid using animal bi products if you grow organically. You rely on nematodes, bacteria, fungie, etc. when they process the amendments in your soil they either shit it out, or get killed, which releases the nutrient value of your inputs. Not to mention worm shit.

If you want to get technical, there is no way to grow "veganically" when growing organically.
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Oh i see well carry on then hahahh
 
Odin*

Odin*

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What's happening here? Too much negativity.
whitebb2727 said:
No

No sir. That is old info. Years ago that was true. Now t5 is closer to hid in efficiency.

Also it comes down to spectrum. You blast your plant all you want with a more efficient light but is its not using all of it then which one is better.
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Yup, T5's offer a broader spectrum that is more in line with the plants requirements. That being said, you can't even compare the growth rates of T5 veg vs 400w veg. A 400w Lumatek+Ushio will double the growth of T5 veg in a 4 week period. Trying to compare the outcome of T5 vs 1,000w digi's in bloom dies not end well for the T5.

Maybe we think we know the plants optimal spectrum, but aren't seeing the whole picture.
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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greasemonkeymann said:
veganic is just stupid.
i'm sorry.
bacteria, fungal life, microbial life, worms, etc, etc.
it's ALLLLLL predicated on animals and their byproducts.
You said you made the soil and leaf compost, didja SEE any bugs in it?
call it what you want but it's like that hippie "vegan" chick wearing leather shoes and having a leather purse washing down her mocha chai with whole milk.
anyways.
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Well I stay away from using manure and using animal bi-products like bone meal and blood meal and definitely don't use anything synthetic like "pro-tekt synthetic silica" so if it's not completely vegan that's fine but it's very high quality and that's what I was after. And to these guys using T5's go buy a 1kw DE HPS light or some COBs and do a side by side , you will be surprised how much more you can get with a lot less watts and how much bigger and denser your buds will be I have two T5's they are mainly used for cloning and veg/revegging.
 
RM3

RM3

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Yodaweed said:
More trolling? I don't got time for this troll welcome to my ignore list.
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I was honestly curious, don't see how it was trolling ? You said you grow this vegan weed, others kinda argued with ya about it. I would think it is perhaps different so I was curious as to what you meant by high quality. To me it means One hit done that last for several hours and scares the bejesus outta regular smokers
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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st0wandgrow said:
His point is, you cannot avoid using animal bi products if you grow organically. You rely on nematodes, bacteria, fungie, etc. when they process the amendments in your soil they either shit it out, or get killed, which releases the nutrient value of your inputs. Not to mention worm shit.

If you want to get technical, there is no way to grow "veganically" when growing organically.
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whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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Odin* said:
What's happening here? Too much negativity.



Yup, T5's offer a broader spectrum that is more in line with the plants requirements. That being said, you can't even compare the growth rates of T5 veg vs 400w veg. A 400w Lumatek+Ushio will double the growth of T5 veg in a 4 week period. Trying to compare the outcome of T5 vs 1,000w digi's in bloom dies not end well for the T5.

Maybe we think we know the plants optimal spectrum, but aren't seeing the whole picture.
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No doubt. Hid will give you bigger plants. There is a reason that double ended hid is the industry standard for horticulture.

My concern is quality. I use 432 watt t5 and that cola in that pic was over 18 inches and rock hard.

I would be willing to put my bud up against any hid grown.

I would also wager that with 1000 watts of t5 running a bunch of single cola clones I could give hid a run for its money.
 
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