EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

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ky man

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doublejj said:
This country was founded for Corporations & needs corporations today as much as ever. Look what Elon Musk is doing at SpaceX & Tesla & SolarCity. We need to work on the regulations that keep corporations here & are fare to American workers......this ain't rocket science
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I do agree with that they just need to pay a worker a beater wage so the worker can have a life for him and his family..I told you that you was a good man hell if I live by you you mite even teach me beater spellingLOL ..ky
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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doublejj said:
This country was founded for Corporations & needs corporations today as much as ever. Look what Elon Musk is doing at SpaceX & Tesla & SolarCity. We need to work on the regulations that keep corporations here & are fare to American workers......this ain't rocket science
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Agreed on all counts. The philosophy should be how corporations work FOR people, not the other way around.
 
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ky man

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And that pig looks great and so dos the people having a great time togeather as it should be.i cant wait to be a part of that big family...ky
 
Fogdog

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Flaming Pie said:
That makes no sense. If bernie backs hillary, that would make him a fraud.
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doublejj said:
You guys should take an early American history class next semester. This country was formed buy & for corporations. The original 13 colonies were Corporation States that formed a business charter for mutual support against Brittan....
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Corporations with stock that are legally treated as people didn't come into existence until Andrew Jackson was prez. It was at that time the soulless and immortal company came into existence. Until then, companies were privately held and under the ownership usually of one person or a family that had a human stake in the concern and people working for it. This is still very much the norm in Europe. But not here. There is no real reason why we should put the rights of companies at the same level as people.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Corporations with stock that are legally treated as people didn't come into existence until Andrew Jackson was prez. It was at that time the soulless and immortal company came into existence. Until then, companies were privately held and under the ownership usually of one person or a family that had a human stake in the concern and people working for it. This is still very much the norm in Europe. But not here. There is no real reason why we should put the rights of companies at the same level as people.
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...and there are lots of really good reasons NOT to.

Corporate personhood is a concept that is quite simply corrosive to democracy itself.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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doublejj said:
all this corporate bashing....what brand of phone are you typing this on?
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Link the post where I said I hate corporations. You won't find one, because the corporations themselves aren't the problem; it's corporate governance and the regulatory environment that's gone off the rails.

Google the term 'regulatory capture' and you'll see what I mean. That's one example, by no means exhaustive.
 
Grandpapy

Grandpapy

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doublejj said:
You guys should take an early American history class next semester. This country was formed buy & for corporations. The original 13 colonies were Corporation States that formed a business charter for mutual support against Brittan....
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But now "our" Corps have formed alliances with foreign governments for mutual support against The Union. (see Boeing) (see Congress).
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Grandpapy said:
But now "our" Corps have formed alliances with foreign governments for mutual support against The Union. (see Boeing) (see Congress).
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And this is exactly the kind of shit we need to elect Mr Sanders to stop. He won't do it FOR us, but he'll use the Presidential bully pulpit and provide a rallying point for citizens of our nation to do the heavy lifting and handle the details.

Reinstate Glass-Steagall!

Vive la Sandernista revolution!
 
bravedave

bravedave

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Fogdog said:
It was a load of propaganda crap, starting with that ridiculous bit about regressive taxes in Scandinavia.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/2014/12/18/why-sweden-denmark-and-norway-have-high-taxes-and-still-show-up-to-work

Dave, you read a bunch of shit.
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I do read a bunch. And remember what I read...like nowhere in the article are taxes said to be regressive. So you have nothing? Your article may be interesting but the point is the fact that Bernie is more Mussolini than Sven.
 
Fogdog

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bravedave said:
I do read a bunch. And remember what I read...like nowhere in the article are taxes said to be regressive. So you have nothing? Your article may be interesting but the point is the fact that Bernie is more Mussolini than Sven.
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Oh no, it said that poor people pay higher rates. Regressive taxation. And totally not true.
 
bravedave

bravedave

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Fogdog said:
Oh no, it said that poor people pay higher rates. Regressive taxation. And totally not true.
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No it did not. It just said our poor pay less. Not an example of regressive taxation but more an example of your lack of understanding.
 
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ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Oh no, it said that poor people pay higher rates. Regressive taxation. And totally not true.
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Anything to distract from the fact that taxes are regressive as FUCK here in the States!

And the mass media outlets wonder why no one pays attention to them anymore.

They might try telling the UNVARNISHED truth, for a change.
 
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