High power COB -vs- hps vertical shoot out

chuck estevez

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bottom line,
if you think you can build a light in your garage that can out grow a top horticulture companies product, you are delusional
good day!!!
 

chuck estevez

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We don't manufacture the chips or the drivers though. We just put them together.
and I can appreciate the efforts. its when you try and compare your gargae light grow to one of horticultures best grow lights, then cry when someone tells you it isnt the same.
 

REALSTYLES

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and I can appreciate the efforts. its when you try and compare your gargae light grow to one of horticultures best grow lights, then cry when someone tells you it isnt the same.
Just face it my light is better hahaha 400watts=1lb you can't do that with Gavita or any HPS for a fact. My 400w cob light kicks the dog shit out of what you are using but all is not lost I have a thread that will show you how to make one of your own and when you see the light you'll be thanking me
 

Flowki

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He simply was talking about climate and grow set ups.
I would imagine having to run a 1000w+ heater almost entirely day/night in a cold country if using LED. In a country with mild summer climate forcing night flower you'd likely end up with some heating during the cooler night most likely?.

Do people factor in heating expense when discussing gpw?. If a LED is to get .5gpw more but require an extra 750w per day on avg in heating, it may not look so appealing to a cold country grower. I've never done the maths on it.

But I suppose if temps were that low with LED you could through in a 400W hps or HID for both extra heat and light. Or maybe two CMH, they run pretty cool I read?.
 

Sativied

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As you guys show in every discussion and on every page of the Bibled, and as I pointed out before, you have collectively decided what matters to you is your light source, while any grower is concerned with the target instead, with photosynthesis, not lum eff.

It's just idiotic to think the par light energy transferred to photosynthate heats up the plant the same way as for example IR. You are basically claiming free energy :wall: It's not even true for blue vs red and shows again you know nothing about what you pretend to do. You discuss light at the source and energy in a hypothetical vacuum, as it is in textbooks, and as usual, as soon as the actual effect on the target, the plants, is introduced ,what it should be all about of course, it shows clearly you guys have nothing more than the inherent effect of running led spots soft. Your premise is already skewed and deceptive, of course anything derived from it is going to be bullshit too.

Something is efficient at something. Not efficient period. (That alone dismisses a huge amount of bullshit posts in this failed community). Your efficiency numbers do not translate to what actually matters. I'd be growing 3-4gpw with white cobs if that were the case and we all know that is bullshit.

With a few exceptions the led fanboys never finished a decent run under hps, of which there are many thousands online, yet think they can compare it to oranges. Wasting other people's money with your epeen growing desire to collectively reinforce your nonsense. It's no less stupid than believe in an all controlling skyman, hence the so fitting word Bibled.

 

ttystikk

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Just face it my light is better hahaha 400watts=1lb you can't do that with Gavita or any HPS for a fact. My 400w cob light kicks the dog shit out of what you are using but all is not lost I have a thread that will show you how to make one of your own and when you see the light you'll be thanking me
Now this is enlightened thinking!
 

REALSTYLES

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As you guys show in every discussion and on every page of the Bibled, and as I pointed out before, you have collectively decided what matters to you is your light source, while any grower is concerned with the target instead, with photosynthesis, not lum eff.

It's just idiotic to think the par light energy transferred to photosynthate heats up the plant the same way as for example IR. You are basically claiming free energy :wall: It's not even true for blue vs red and shows again you know nothing about what you pretend to do. You discuss light at the source and energy in a hypothetical vacuum, as it is in textbooks, and as usual, as soon as the actual effect on the target, the plants, is introduced ,what it should be all about of course, it shows clearly you guys have nothing more than the inherent effect of running led spots soft. Your premise is already skewed and deceptive, of course anything derived from it is going to be bullshit too.

Something is efficient at something. Not efficient period. (That alone dismisses a huge amount of bullshit posts in this failed community). Your efficiency numbers do not translate to what actually matters. I'd be growing 3-4gpw with white cobs if that were the case and we all know that is bullshit.

With a few exceptions the led fanboys never finished a decent run under hps, of which there are many thousands online, yet think they can compare it to oranges. Wasting other people's money with your epeen growing desire to collectively reinforce your nonsense. It's no less stupid than believe in an all controlling skyman, hence the so fitting word Bibled.
I bet you've never grown 20lbs in 1 run I did. How's the chocolate Swiss Miss

 

CannaBruh

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As you guys show in every discussion and on every page of the Bibled, and as I pointed out before, you have collectively decided what matters to you is your light source, while any grower is concerned with the target...
No, what matters is being aware of the advances in technology.

Beings that it would be an incredible upfront cost to implement COB in place of existing DE or conventional HPS, I couldn't imagine justifying the value added, or at least many bean counters are not trying to hear it. This might explain why we're not seeing the big guys with warehouses full of COBs, they aren't trying to pay for the bleeding edge tech.

When advances drive costs down, I venture a guess you'll see more and more LED equipped large scale operations.
 

testiclees

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and I can appreciate the efforts. its when you try and compare your gargae light grow to one of horticultures best grow lights, then cry when someone tells you it isnt the same.
chuck your posts are deteriorating. You've arrived at the point of spouting the childish hysteria of a common lout
 

testiclees

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I posted a 12 gram nugg, they tried to say it was wet or had no resin, all kinds of shit. I post, they cry and get thread closed. same ol story
chuck you have become the idiot who employs the biggest cock argument as if it's something that thoughtful folks consider legitimate.
put you childish biases and imbecilic logic aside.

Things are changing chuck. Tech marches on and doesn't give a fuck about your isolated ignorance or sativied's ego
 

chuck estevez

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LMFAO, i could post 20 grand in cash,but im not a giant douchebag. funny, still NOT ONE BUD PIC WORTH A SHIT!!!! worthless fucks, your opinions mean shit
 

ttystikk

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No, what matters is being aware of the advances in technology.

Beings that it would be an incredible upfront cost to implement COB in place of existing DE or conventional HPS, I couldn't imagine justifying the value added, or at least many bean counters are not trying to hear it. This might explain why we're not seeing the big guys with warehouses full of COBs, they aren't trying to pay for the bleeding edge tech.

When advances drive costs down, I venture a guess you'll see more and more LED equipped large scale operations.
This. It's already happening in exactly this fashion.
 

chuck estevez

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large grow houses still use advanced nutes, doesnt mean shit, when sunlight,hydrofarm or any other major suppliers start selling a light they cant keep in stock, then you can say something is happening. until then, gavitas have done just that for a reason
 

REALSTYLES

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large grow houses still use advanced nutes, doesnt mean shit, when sunlight,hydrofarm or any other major suppliers start selling a light they cant keep in stock, then you can say something is happening. until then, gavitas have done just that for a reason
And you think cobs haven't, you better do some more research and actually try(spend some money) on cobs and see for yourself. You won't know until you've tried them.
 

chuck estevez

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And you think cobs haven't, you better do some more research and actually try(spend some money) on cobs and see for yourself. You won't know until you've tried them.
what research? ANYONE who isn't a dumbass like you can EASILY go to sunlight or hydrofarm website and see. they DO NOT SELL COB LIGHTING!! they do sell TONS of DE units though.
 
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