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[Bongulator]

Here's info related to temp/co2 levels, and which comes first, cause/effect, etc. Your myth has been debunked thoroughly by numerous scientists.

Climate myths: Ice cores show CO<SUB>2</SUB> increases lag behind temperature rises, disproving the link to global warming - climate-change - 16 May 2007 - New Scientist Environment

The relevant quotes:

"We know that CO2 is a greenhouse gas because it absorbs and emits certain frequencies of infrared radiation. Basic physics tells us that gases with this property trap heat radiating from the Earth, that the planet would be a lot colder if this effect was not real and that adding more CO2 to the atmosphere will trap even more heat."

Get that? Basic physics. Not advanced physics. Not timeline-related stuff. CO2 does absorb infrared radiation. That's just a fact. There are many ways to test that, and it's been tested many ways. That's what CO2 does, absorb infrared. Is there any argument about that? And if that's true, and it is, and provably so, then infrared trying to go through a higher-CO2 atmosphere will get trapped more readily than infrared trying to go through a lower-CO2 atmosphere.

Think of CO2 as cotton candy, and heat as water. If you toss a droplet of water on a big (high CO2) ball of cotton candy, it will likely not go all the way through. But if you put the droplet on a thin layer of cotton candy (low CO2 levels), the droplet will likely make it all the way through. So too with infrared radiation (e.g. heat). If there's lots of CO2 in the atmosphere, less of the infrared can make it out of the Earth's atmosphere and cool the planet, and vice versa when the levels are high.

Anyway, it really is basic physics, the properties of CO2 as pertains to infrared radiation. That's why it's so hard to understand anyone who would disagree. It's like showing them a ball and dropping it and explaining that what makes the ball fall is gravity, and the other person says no, gravity doesn't cause that, must be something else. Welll....if you say so, then I guess I should just go ahead and ignore physics.

 

[yourname]

That's funny! She is hot. And now going to be a grandma! Her 17 year old daughter who is starting her senior year is 5 mos pregnant! Palin has a baby also. We might need to build an addition on the White house for all 10 of them if the boyfriend moves in!

I think it is funny that anyone on this site would actually want a republican in office. They hate Cannabis! Reagan said "Marijuana is probably the most dangerous drug known to man kind" And he is like their God!

I live in the conservative stronghold of California (SD) They refuse to uphold the law that 56% of Californians voted for. Most stoners, myself included (got to post office to register to vote for prop 215 1 day late) did not get off the couch to even vote. There are no dispensaries in SD the local piss ants let the feds come in and rip them off.

If you are worried that the dems are going to take away your guns, don't. What are you going to do GIVE them to them? Not me!

The only reason I can think of for someone on this forum wanting to support McCain is that Cannabis being illegal, keeps them selling buds.
I have given way to much of my money in the last 25 years to people trying to get rich off the herb! that's why I started the Seldom Seen Garden!

I am not trying to ruffle any feathers here...Peace to my conservative Brothers and sisters.

I have quit smoking twice in 25 years for about 1-2 years (I do not recommend this). Each time I become more conservative in thinking, and drink a little. If you are having feelings of needing to vote for McCain (assuming it is not just because you want to bang the VP) I would highly recommend you have another bong hit! If these feeling should return in the next couple of hours.... well you know what to do!

after a quik hand release......i realize mccain is not getting my vote!!!!!lmao

 

[ccodiane]

That's funny! She is hot. And now going to be a grandma! Her 17 year old daughter who is starting her senior year is 5 mos pregnant! Palin has a baby also. We might need to build an addition on the White house for all 10 of them if the boyfriend moves in!

I think it is funny that anyone on this site would actually want a republican in office. They hate Cannabis! Reagan said "Marijuana is probably the most dangerous drug known to man kind" And he is like their God!

I live in the conservative stronghold of California (SD) They refuse to uphold the law that 56% of Californians voted for. Most stoners, myself included (got to post office to register to vote for prop 215 1 day late) did not get off the couch to even vote. There are no dispensaries in SD the local piss ants let the feds come in and rip them off.

If you are worried that the dems are going to take away your guns, don't. What are you going to do GIVE them to them? Not me!

The only reason I can think of for someone on this forum wanting to support McCain is that Cannabis being illegal, keeps them selling buds.
I have given way to much of my money in the last 25 years to people trying to get rich off the herb! that's why I started the Seldom Seen Garden!

I am not trying to ruffle any feathers here...Peace to my conservative Brothers and sisters.

I have quit smoking twice in 25 years for about 1-2 years (I do not recommend this). Each time I become more conservative in thinking, and drink a little. If you are having feelings of needing to vote for McCain (assuming it is not just because you want to bang the VP) I would highly recommend you have another bong hit! If these feeling should return in the next couple of hours.... well you know what to do!

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[HotNSexyMILF]

If you are worried that the dems are going to take away your guns, don't. What are you going to do GIVE them to them? Not me!

LOL.. yea. I'd just hand off my guns just like I'd hand my weed to a cop. How is that a relevant argument.

Guns don't grow on a plant like weed man- if guns are illegal it's gonna be a hell of a lot harder to get one than weed, and the next generation will be armless under tyranny. Nice.

Nobody is right when everyone is wrong. Neither of the top candidates will get my vote.

 

[Bongulator]

So, the Republican platform is: drill drill drill, don't let the fags marry, don't let women who've been raped have abortions, don't do anything about global warming, don't make it illegal to discriminate on wages based on gender, and feel free to shoot all the wolves and polar bears you want (from helicopters) if they get in the way of Big Oil. Okay, got it. Seems to me like pretty much the (Mc)same platform as the last election, but if that's how they plan to win, well...I think they need something else, because that platform just hasn't convinced me. Can we add in 'Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran' to the list? That'd make the oil companies even richer!

 

[misshestermoffitt]

I think all the choices suck.

 

[ccodiane]

So, the Republican platform is: drill drill drill, don't let the fags marry, don't let women who've been raped have abortions, don't do anything about global warming, don't make it illegal to discriminate on wages based on gender, and feel free to shoot all the wolves and polar bears you want (from helicopters) if they get in the way of Big Oil. Okay, got it. Seems to me like pretty much the (Mc)same platform as the last election, but if that's how they plan to win, well...I think they need something else, because that platform just hasn't convinced me. Can we add in 'Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran' to the list? That'd make the oil companies even richer!

The Dem platform is to harangue Rep. policy in order to camouflage their lack of substance and integrity. Much better, yeah?

 

[Hayduke]

Btw.. all records indicate temperature rises before co2 increases. Again, do your research.
Timing of Atmospheric CO2 and Antarctic Temperature Changes Across Termination III -- Caillon et al. 299 (5613): 1728 -- Science

I am not sure about all records... but i read the article (well abstract, intro, conclusion and skimmed the data).
It in no way contradicts the current science!

Here is the conclusion. and think beer (or soda if your anti beer), if it gets warm it can no longer hold as much gas. note the ocean is the largest sink (storage) of atmospheric co2, good for us (sort of) bad if you are a cocolithophore. Look up ocean acidification. If you have full access to ASSS an article by Dr. Vicky Fabery sp? et.al. although I think she is the et.al. though.

Although there is not yet clear support for this assertion (through models, for example), a delay of about 800 years seems to be a reasonable time period to transform an initial Antarctic temperature increase into a CO2 atmospheric increase through oceanic processes. Indeed, it is not clear whether the link between the southern ocean climate and CO2 is the result of a physical mechanism, such as a change in the vertical ocean mixing (34) or sea-ice cover changes (35), or a biological mechanism, such as atmospheric dust flux and ocean productivity (36, 37). The 800-year lag cannot really rule out any of these mechanisms as having sole control. Any of these mechanisms might plausibly require a finite amount of warming before CO2 outgassing becomes significant. Nevertheless, we think that our results are more consistent with a process that involves the deep ocean, as its mixing time is close to the observed 800-year lag. Finally, the situation at Termination III differs from the recent anthropogenic CO2 increase. As recently noted by Kump (38), we should distinguish between internal influences (such as the deglacial CO2 increase) and external influences (such as the anthropogenic CO2 increase) on the climate system. Although the recent CO2 increase has clearly been imposed first, as a result of anthropogenic activities, it naturally takes, at Termination III, some time for CO2 to outgas from the ocean once it starts to react to a climate change that is first felt in the atmosphere. The sequence of events during this Termination is fully consistent with CO2 participating in the latter ~4200 years of the warming. The radiative forcing due to CO2 may serve as an amplifier of initial orbital forcing, which is then further amplified by fast atmospheric feedbacks (39) that are also at work for the present-day and future climate.

Althoughnone of us on here are planktonic think about what John Muir said over 100 years ago. "tug on anything in nature and find it connected to everything else" The exoskeletons of zooplankton and phytoplankton disolving should be alarming to all. Trust me it is with marine scientists.

 

[Hayduke]

I wanna know if these politicians are still being paid for their existing jobs while they're running around campaigning. Seems like that would be stealing. If you aren't doing the work but still raking in the check.

They are. and we paid for the conventions

 

[Hayduke]

Here's info related to temp/co2 levels, and which comes first, cause/effect, etc. Your myth has been debunked thoroughly by numerous scientists.

Climate myths: Ice cores show CO<SUB>2</SUB> increases lag behind temperature rises, disproving the link to global warming - climate-change - 16 May 2007 - New Scientist Environment

Careful Bongulator, Hot and sexy milf (love the name, poster or Palin, either way) is going to get you on quoting a news service rather than a peer reviewed journal If you read the Science article it in now way disputes the current science even if it is 5 years old.

 

[terdherder]

Man, I'm glad I'm not alone!

Well how about that, there's three off us! Al along I thought I was the only one, haha

 

[HotNSexyMILF]

I said I was done with this debate a page ago, that isn't the topic of this thread- I've sourced for my reasoning plenty of times on RIU in the time I've been a member on this board, go search the global warming threads if you care to read the sides to this debate, I honestly don't feel like hacking this out with a new group of newbies every 2 months- you're retaliations are nothing new, and nothing that hasn't already been countered at another time. I'm free to believe what I want, as you are to believe what you want.

 

[Hayduke]

LOL.. yea. I'd just hand off my guns just like I'd hand my weed to a cop. How is that a relevant argument.

Sorry if that was not relevant, I was just taking a stab in the dark, trying to understand how ANY Cannabis user could support any conservative besides Ron Paul.

I just figured that gun rights might understandably be part of the reason.

Don't get me wrong, I am heavily armed and I would fight to support your rights also!

This whole thing really comes down to the lesser of the evils. But unless you are in an upper tax bracket, voting conservative makes no sense (and even less sensi!) Look at Kansas, blue collar, hard working farmers and union workers vote pro-life while the party leaders fight against unions and sold out the family farmer for subsidized corporate ADM, con-agra etc. factory farms. I don't get it.

Note: I have never had to vote for a dem. my state goes dem anyhow regardless of my county. 2 party partisan politics are hurting this country and the electoral college was a good idea before we counted every vote (sort of). so I always vote 3rd party. Except this year I will either write in Ron Paul, Albert Gore, or Jerry Garcia!

Sorry hot sexy milf, with a name like that and as much experience here I really don't want to piss you off, so I will stop now. No offense meant to any of you! If you get a chance visit my garden and tell me what a liberal piece of poo it is. Sorry!

 

[terdherder]

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Okay I don't know if he ever said that but I mean come on, Regan started the whole "War on Drugs". Republicans always say how they don't waste tax dollars on useless programs...but wait it was a republican that started the war on drugs, THE BIGGEST WASTE OF TAX DOLLARS PROBABLY EVER! I mean no one benefits from this, NO ONE! I mean yeah there are probably a lot of people who abuse welfare and other programs but you can't deny that some people really do benefit from those programs and don't abuse it whereas the war on drugs not only turns responsible smokers into criminals but waste tax dollars of every american in the U.S. And the thing is it was all started by the guy almost all Republicans say is there favorite president ever.

 

[Johnnyorganic]

Ps, let me guess, your mommy lives just a couple a houses away from you

Actually, YOUR Mom lives a couple of houses down. I'll tell her you said 'High.'

 

[Hayduke]

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Rent "Grass" narrated by Woody Harelson. It gives the history of Hemp in the U.S. from the beginning of the 20th century. Better than finding it in print, Ronnie said it on film!

Netflix has it. Everyone on here should see it! Try to add up all the money spent on the WAR on a plant (they give figures in 5-10 year chunks). don't use a calculator, it will not have enough zeros

 

[VTXDave]

...Regan started the whole "War on Drugs".

Wrong...It was Nixon. It has since been policy by every Administration to date...including Clinton. In 1994, it was reported that the War on Drugs resulted in the incarceration of one million Americans in just that year. The "War on Drugs" is a bipartisan agenda.

 

[misshestermoffitt]

it's not a war on drugs, it's a war on a plant that threatens big oil, big paper, big pharma, etc.

Free the weed, cause I'm gonna smoke it anyway.

 

[Hayduke]

Okay I don't know if he ever said that but I mean come on, Regan started the whole "War on Drugs". Republicans always say how they don't waste tax dollars on useless programs...but wait it was a republican that started the war on drugs, THE BIGGEST WASTE OF TAX DOLLARS PROBABLY EVER! I mean no one benefits from this, NO ONE! I mean yeah there are probably a lot of people who abuse welfare and other programs but you can't deny that some people really do benefit from those programs and don't abuse it whereas the war on drugs not only turns responsible smokers into criminals but waste tax dollars of every american in the U.S. And the thing is it was all started by the guy almost all Republicans say is there favorite president ever.

Agree with most, but Harry J. Anslinger started the war in 1937. Nixon reclassified Hemp with coke and heroin. (But he also signed the Endangered Species act in the same year, so not all bad, compared with today's neocons, he was a bleeding heart crook, I think he started AFDC (wellfare)).

Again in keeping with the original post, She is hot!

 

[ccodiane]

Okay I don't know if he ever said that but I mean come on, Regan started the whole "War on Drugs". Republicans always say how they don't waste tax dollars on useless programs...but wait it was a republican that started the war on drugs, THE BIGGEST WASTE OF TAX DOLLARS PROBABLY EVER! I mean no one benefits from this, NO ONE! I mean yeah there are probably a lot of people who abuse welfare and other programs but you can't deny that some people really do benefit from those programs and don't abuse it whereas the war on drugs not only turns responsible smokers into criminals but waste tax dollars of every american in the U.S. And the thing is it was all started by the guy almost all Republicans say is there favorite president ever.

The War on Drugs is Lost

From one of my favorite American conservatives. God bless William Buckley Jr.!