hockeybry2
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Plenty or ergot on rye in the us
Ergot spores
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bluntmassa1
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Yeah their must be a way I read somewhere that the ancient Greeks used to trip on it not sure how it was prepared though. I do kind of want to take a chemistry class though if I learn enough to make LSD I can be a millionaire.
hockeybry2
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It'd be easier to make mdma
Bl@ckWid0w
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No, the spores are not natural in the US. Most of your "end product" in the US comes from spores from a greenhouse in the far north of Norway. Nobody can hardly get there to do anything about it, but everyone knows it is there.
As to the Greeks, lysergic acid can be extracted from ergot easily enough. In fact, your body will do it for you if you take in ergot and alcohol at the same time.
Trust me, your average doctor in America hasn't the vaguest idea about what to do for exposure to the actual fungus. It is not natural here. Anybody with half a brain can look it up on wikipedia. Spores definitely come from Europe.
As to the Greeks, lysergic acid can be extracted from ergot easily enough. In fact, your body will do it for you if you take in ergot and alcohol at the same time.
Trust me, your average doctor in America hasn't the vaguest idea about what to do for exposure to the actual fungus. It is not natural here. Anybody with half a brain can look it up on wikipedia. Spores definitely come from Europe.
mikek420
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http://tohigherconsciousness.com/eleusinian-mysteries-lsd-and-ancient-greece/Yeah their must be a way I read somewhere that the ancient Greeks used to trip on it not sure how it was prepared though. I do kind of want to take a chemistry class though if I learn enough to make LSD I can be a millionaire.
Good link.
bluntmassa1
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But would it be better? Not to mention I never seen sassafras oil for sale I'd probably need to go to Cambodia and smuggle it back. Ergot I can grow then make ergotamine and then LSD right here. Might be able to grow sassafras trees probably would need to be in Florida though and then wait 20 years just to harvest some and still would be best to wait at least 50 years. Weed won't be so profitable come legalization already the price has dropped pretty good but there is a big demand for LSD and I only hear about it coming around occasionally if it's not 2c knock offs.
hockeybry2
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You can purchase precursors such catechol which are unregulated, just gotta have some chem background. But you're right saffrole is near impossible to get
AZgreenthumb
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You can find sassafras oil if you know where to look I've seen it for sale on DNM markets before. It's expensive but you can still find it but the large scale chemists in Canada just get straight MDP2P from China and convert it directly to MDMA. That being said ecstacy is way easier and less risky to synthesize compared to LSD. With LSD you need way more chemicals not to mention all the complicated glassware and specialty equipment like roto evaporators and you have to maintain a compleatly inert atmosphere during reactions this kind of synthesis is for a phd level chemist.
iHearAll
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http://textfiles.com/drugs/make.txt
Lsa into lysergic acid into iso-lsd and lastly into lsd 25
Not toooo complex. You can start with kash's lsa extraction. But make sure you keep the acetone anhydrous with epsom salt. Then gravity filter it.
Starting with lsa will eliminate the ever scarey ergot culturing. Id wear a hazmat suit if if i were to start with ergot....
Lsa into lysergic acid into iso-lsd and lastly into lsd 25
Not toooo complex. You can start with kash's lsa extraction. But make sure you keep the acetone anhydrous with epsom salt. Then gravity filter it.
Starting with lsa will eliminate the ever scarey ergot culturing. Id wear a hazmat suit if if i were to start with ergot....
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bluntmassa1
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That's why I would learn chemistry before making LSD and it's not really that hard if you know chemistry. Not to mention after the bunk DMT fuck the darknet guy had good reviews except for mine but most reviews the people didn't even try it yet. Not like a real dealer where they try to fuck around and you demand your money back like when I was sold fake micro dots and that fake ass red rock opium. Lol
I do like MDMA but I don't really want to make it LSD I would love to make bigger demand really at least for me.
AZgreenthumb
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I don't think people understand just how difficult it is to synthesize LSD. Most of the people who make LSD are experienced organic chemists working in fully equipped laboratories. One will usually need precursor chemicals, such as lysergic acid amides, which you can pretty much only obtain with a DEA license. Or you could specifically harvest the ergot fungus and chemically extract its alkaloids, then process those into the specific amides, then finally LSD. For this you would need thousands and thousands of dollars worth of lab equipment, experience in harvesting microscopic fungi, weeks worth of time, proper growing chambers in a completely sterile environment, all the necessary chemicals, a great amount of experience in organic chemisty, etc. You cannot make LSD without a fully equipped lab. Don't try to make LSD unless you have a phd in organic chemistry and hundreds of thousands of dollers to set up your own lab. Its estimated all of the LSD produced is made by a handful of people. These people have years of lab experience, a fully functional lab, $, connections for precursors, and higher level chem degrees or been trained by one of the few cooks before them.
AZgreenthumb
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Until you have all of these things making your own LSD is just a pipe dream your more then likely going to get yourself killed. Leave it to the professionals they will train a new generation of chemists to take their place. Not trying to be a downer but LSD synthesis is nothing to take lightly you can seriously hurt yourself or other people around you.
bluntmassa1
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Why you got to be such a Debbie downer? I actually mentioned taking chemistry classes I already have a few chemistry books just haven't read them yet. But it ain't like I'm going to start tomorrow and I think I can afford the lab equipment just need to learn chemistry. Maybe I won't be able to make it but worse case scenario I will be able to make the best DMT pure crystals among other things. I doubt an actual PhD is needed just enough to actually be able to read the books and understand what they are talking about cause just skimming through a lot of that shit is like wtf but if I learn enough to understand that shit I can probably do it and I would probably use a rabbit as my guinea pig just in case I fucked up so I wouldn't kill myself.
Also if I can't buy some ingredients well I imagine I can grab it outside the USA and come to think of it I can smuggle a little bit of liquid in a damn cologne bottle. So yeah it's very doable I can probably get ergotamine and all just in Mexico with just a little bribe money.
Bl@ckWid0w
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Sassafras is everywhere. It makes root beer. Disgusting stuff.
You know it was LSD that started the Iraq war? Yah, someone started slipping it to devout Islams, and they were pissed. At first, they blamed America because it was an American woman that started it. But the she died, and they figured out it was made in Europe. So that is why they attack Europe now. If you cross reference drug trade with terrorist attacks you can clearly see the correspondence.
You know it was LSD that started the Iraq war? Yah, someone started slipping it to devout Islams, and they were pissed. At first, they blamed America because it was an American woman that started it. But the she died, and they figured out it was made in Europe. So that is why they attack Europe now. If you cross reference drug trade with terrorist attacks you can clearly see the correspondence.
AZgreenthumb
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I'm not trying to be a downer my last post applies to everyone. I'm trying to keep people from getting themselves killed. To many idiots out there that think they can handle the deadly chemicals involved in LSD synthesis or any other type of drug synthisis for that matter and they end up getting themselves or somebody else hurt. And make no mistake you don't want to attempt a synthisis like this just because you read some books you need real world lab experience way beyond what a bachlors degree can provide you why do you think only a handful of people in the world manufacture it? And where are you going to find a connection for pure ergotamine tartarate outside the country? It's not like you can just go to Mexico and find it its an extremely rare chemical. Unless you can find another LSD chemist to take you under his wing I wouldent attempt this type of thing. But don't take my word for it head over to the organic chemistry section on reddit there you can ask actual professional chemists why you shouldn't try to make LSD. https://www.reddit.com/r/OrganicChemistry/
I highly suggest you go talk to a certified organic chemist about this wether online or at your local community collage they can go into more detail about the chemicals and glassware involved.
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Olive Drab Green
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Ergot can kill you, can't it? I know it grows from rye being tainted and may have been responsible for the Salem Witch Hunts and Trials.
Olive Drab Green
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Except the first one started because we were trying to keep Saddam from invading Kuwait as well as killing a bunch of Kurds, and the second one was nepotism.
bluntmassa1
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I was joking about the Debbie Downer cause you mentioned you were not trying to be a downer. Lol