Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

Organicgrow42

Organicgrow42

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Ok so it's me again. I have learned so much since my original post....like a lot :)

Finding buildasoil.com may be life altering for me right now. The sheer amount of information is amazing and with its no bullshit/posting results attitude, it makes for an excellent read for anyone who is having trouble growing and not understanding the problem.

I've been growing for years and just following recipes that get a lot of praise. This is fine for most people but when problems happen....that recipe doesn't tell you what's wrong with it! I've troubleshooter just about everything I can think of and have come to the conclusion that the problem lies on my soil.

I have done subcools supersoil, TLO and recycling.

*just look at the blog part of builasoil.com...you will find out why supersoil and the revs TLO method are all good starting points but are way off. Some of the things don't even make sense to do and we are all put trying to source these exotic amendments ect..sigh...just thought I'd share that :)

Well Jeremy at buildasoil has a mentor named clackamas coot. I'm sure all of you have heard of him since his recipe is basically on the first page of this thread if not word for word.

Now that I'm back on track and understanding things a lot clearer, I'm wondering if anyone knows of where you can find more of Clackamas Coots information. Through Google I have found some things but there isn't much besides his soil recipe.

Anyone have a spreadsheet or notepad or word doc that may have a compilation of his info?

I'm specifically looking for his composting method and what he uses as a worm farm for vermicomposting.

Any sourced besides buildasoil for his info in general would be great! Anyone help me out? :)
 
greasemonkeymann

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kkt3 said:
Hey Kind Sir, I went into the back yard and pulled off some rotting wood from a log. Then I broke it up into smaller pieces and added it to my soil. I believe it was Grease that said he uses rotting wood in his mixes.
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works extremely well to retain water, and I imagine it works very well to house microbial populations too, sorta akin to biochar.
The other thing is I imagine it to be loaded with beneficial indigenous microbes as well.
In the summer time I add more to the soil to help with water retention.
Depending on it's level of degradation it may or may not rob a lil nitrogen form your soil when added, so it's good to "charge" it with a soluble form of nitrogen.
VERY good to add to the soil though.
It sorta disappears after about two or three runs, turning into pretty much pure humus
 
DonPetro

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Organicgrow42 said:
Ok so it's me again. I have learned so much since my original post....like a lot :)

Finding buildasoil.com may be life altering for me right now. The sheer amount of information is amazing and with its no bullshit/posting results attitude, it makes for an excellent read for anyone who is having trouble growing and not understanding the problem.

I've been growing for years and just following recipes that get a lot of praise. This is fine for most people but when problems happen....that recipe doesn't tell you what's wrong with it! I've troubleshooter just about everything I can think of and have come to the conclusion that the problem lies on my soil.

I have done subcools supersoil, TLO and recycling.

*just look at the blog part of builasoil.com...you will find out why supersoil and the revs TLO method are all good starting points but are way off. Some of the things don't even make sense to do and we are all put trying to source these exotic amendments ect..sigh...just thought I'd share that :)

Well Jeremy at buildasoil has a mentor named clackamas coot. I'm sure all of you have heard of him since his recipe is basically on the first page of this thread if not word for word.

Now that I'm back on track and understanding things a lot clearer, I'm wondering if anyone knows of where you can find more of Clackamas Coots information. Through Google I have found some things but there isn't much besides his soil recipe.

Anyone have a spreadsheet or notepad or word doc that may have a compilation of his info?

I'm specifically looking for his composting method and what he uses as a worm farm for vermicomposting.

Any sourced besides buildasoil for his info in general would be great! Anyone help me out? :)
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Coot is on instagram quite frequently.
 
hyroot

hyroot

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Organicgrow42 said:
Ok so it's me again. I have learned so much since my original post....like a lot :)

Finding buildasoil.com may be life altering for me right now. The sheer amount of information is amazing and with its no bullshit/posting results attitude, it makes for an excellent read for anyone who is having trouble growing and not understanding the problem.

I've been growing for years and just following recipes that get a lot of praise. This is fine for most people but when problems happen....that recipe doesn't tell you what's wrong with it! I've troubleshooter just about everything I can think of and have come to the conclusion that the problem lies on my soil.

I have done subcools supersoil, TLO and recycling.

*just look at the blog part of builasoil.com...you will find out why supersoil and the revs TLO method are all good starting points but are way off. Some of the things don't even make sense to do and we are all put trying to source these exotic amendments ect..sigh...just thought I'd share that :)

Well Jeremy at buildasoil has a mentor named clackamas coot. I'm sure all of you have heard of him since his recipe is basically on the first page of this thread if not word for word.

Now that I'm back on track and understanding things a lot clearer, I'm wondering if anyone knows of where you can find more of Clackamas Coots information. Through Google I have found some things but there isn't much besides his soil recipe.

Anyone have a spreadsheet or notepad or word doc that may have a compilation of his info?

I'm specifically looking for his composting method and what he uses as a worm farm for vermicomposting.

Any sourced besides buildasoil for his info in general would be great! Anyone help me out? :)
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The Adam Dunn show a few eps back they had coots on Jeremy Silva (bas) on. Get the live stream app and you can watch old episode's of the Adam Dunn show on there.
 
GreenSanta

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GreenSanta

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DonBrennon said:
Bonjour...............you're in France, is that correct?.................have you not got nettles, dandelions, horsetail, even wild comfrey?..............have you looked into French organic farming/gardening methods? They are VERY good and worth researching.

There's nothing there I instantly recognise but I'm no botanist. You could make a good compost if you ripped it all up, including the brown leaves underneath and put it in a big pile, lol.
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he is in France, yes to everything, especially dandelions, french chefs love to cook with it.

hyroot said:
The Adam Dunn show a few eps back they had coots on Jeremy Silva (bas) on. Get the live stream app and you can watch old episode's of the Adam Dunn show on there.
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Can you post a link to this podcast? I looked on google quickly and got side tracked... or the name of the episode. Thanks
 
GreenSanta

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Rrog said:
Lol. Nope. I'm much more interested in sourcing locally, and am just starting my list of local ingredients.

Biochar is a biggie, as I think it can double as large aeration instead of lava rock
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same here, nothing against people that can afford all those goodies, but for me its all about making vermicompost now. I am looking forward to see how your biochar performs, at what ratio will you use it in your mix? I think the thing with biochar is patience, best thing to do would be to create a very rich huge compost pile in the corner of your property on top of a mat of crushed biochar, forget about it for years except maybe adding nutrients, I think it really needs a lot of time to charge. Please keep us posted on your trials.
 
littlejacob

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GreenSanta said:
I think I may see mallow, you can make home made marshmallow with the flowers (when in bloom) and the other is for sure chickweed, edible, delicious, nutritious. Free food right there. Is it lupins in the background? they do fix nitrogen.
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Bonjour
Thank you very much!
I wasn't able to put some name on those hemps...now I will translate and find pics and find info on those!...cool!
CU
 
DonBrennon

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GreenSanta said:
thanks its going to be very interesting, i started watching it. hey, do everybody here really spray for pests? whether neem oil or anything else, any other grower on this thread who like me use beneficial insects for IPM?
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I've stopped using neem oil as a foliar and I do use 'Bennies' for pest predation, but I also use an home made immunity boost/pest repellant, probably not as often as I should, seeing as I've noticed a small number of thrip returning.

I don't apply them as often as you, I'm hoping for once a year, but I actually don't mind the odd pest. I'd like to get a balance (probably too idealistic), where I've got just enough prey to keep the predators breeding.

I've got these in the post, due to arrive very soon:

Description: Amblyseius System (Sprinkler) - Pack Size:25,000
Item Price: £ 9.20
Qty: 1
Total: £ 9.20

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Description: Yellow Sticky Traps (Medium 24.5 x 10cm) - Size:Pack of 10
Item Price: £ 3.50
Qty: 1
Total: £ 3.50

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Description: Amblyseius californicus (Sprinkler) - Pack Size:2,000
Item Price: £ 13.75
Qty: 1
Total: £ 13.75
 
DonBrennon

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This is what I'm dealing with, you can't see them with the naked eye, this is probably about 0.5mm long, the leaf hairs are nearly as long. The give away sign of their presence is small silvery patches on the leaf surfacethrip.jpg
 
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GreenSanta

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Rrog said:
What beneficial insects for IPM?
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ladybugs, I have been trying to rear them indoor but not much luck so far, the larvae are the ones that would really take care of pests... anyway I keep buying ladybugs (9000 at a time)

besides that, the ones I buy regularly are amblesyum fallacis, persimillis, nematodes, I tried the mesoseiulus longipes, with great results but they are so expensive!! They are said to be better for dryer environment. Also used cucumeris many times for Thrips (worked very well)

I used to be fine with ladybugs alone but they dont fully take care of pests, they almost farm them. Its ok for most pest except it doesnt work well for spider mites because of what they do to your plants in budding. So now its a matter of figuring out how to keep the beneficials alive and what bug eat what bugs (like I often wonder if my ladybugs eat my benes)

So anyway, its a work in progress for me, the reason why I have had to spend so much in the recent while is I was so busy in the Summer and the spider mites got a little out of control, I should have hit them hard right from the start.

I want to get to a point where I buy them once a month, depending on the pests in the garden. Anyway, have not sprayed in years and I have a healthy looking garden, I think next week will be the last time I order bugs bi-weekly I ll be back to once a month. Also I am only starting to make vermicompost, as I start to produce enough I believe I will have less pest pressure.
 
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