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Yessica...

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For me, Sanders. I'll vote for Clinton if she beats Bernie. Not voting Republican, no way no how. And I'm not going to throw my vote away towards some sort of ineffective protest candidate like what happened when Nader provided Bush jr the necessary wiggle room in 2000.
Tell me of Sanders?

If you don't mind.

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https://www.rollitup.org/t/excuse-me-the-official-bernie-sanders-for-president-2016-thread.879964/

Oh I'm a dummy. Guess I should just learn to READ. hahaha

I'll look into it. Nice that there is someone you "like" running, or at least that you can get behind.
 

2ANONYMOUS

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How about you share some of that weed you've been smoking?
Nope not a chance only will share it with Yessica :) i hardly smoke anything anymore Most of what i grow i give it away to friends and people n need medical purpose just like to grow it although poker nights i pick a cigar got to look pro you know lol

PS: domes make a perfect humidor

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Not GOP

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Contrast what was said in the video: "8 suspects were cheering on the roof"..."I am told" with what the donald said

"watched on television as “thousands and thousands” of Muslims in New Jersey were “cheering”"

8 suspects "he was told" vs "thousands and thousands" referenced by the great flatulator.. Donald's lie is blatant and meant to inflame bigots that don't need the truth to believe that Muslims are not Americans. This and other lies, repeated again and again will do. Even your "evidence" refutes this lie. But you still believe it.
The more you keep trying to make Trump look like he lied, the more proof I will show you he is right.

“Investigators said at least two of the hijackers, Nawaq Al Hamzi and Salem Al Hamzi are believed to have had addresses in Wayne and Fort Lee, NJ. The apparently rented a mailbox in Fort Lee at Mailboxes Etc. in Jersey City within hours of two jetliners plowing into the World Trade Center. Law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river.” -Washington Post Sept. 18, 2001
 

Yessica...

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The more you keep trying to make Trump look like he lied, the more proof I will show you he is right.

“Investigators said at least two of the hijackers, Nawaq Al Hamzi and Salem Al Hamzi are believed to have had addresses in Wayne and Fort Lee, NJ. The apparently rented a mailbox in Fort Lee at Mailboxes Etc. in Jersey City within hours of two jetliners plowing into the World Trade Center. Law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river.” -Washington Post Sept. 18, 2001
All politicians lie.

That's a fact. Every single one of them. Regardless of party.

Getting past that, do you actually think he's a smart man? Do you actually think anything he says is doable, or realistic, or valid?

He just seems like a Gladiator appeasing the angry mob to me.

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Are they entertained??? They're the same people that know what's going on with the Kardashians and actually give a fuck, and the same with honey boo boo. They probably even watched Trumps horrible reality show/ shows.

Meh - I wouldn't want the fate of my country in the hands of a power hungry reality tv star.
 

Not GOP

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All politicians lie.

That's a fact. Every single one of them. Regardless of party.

Getting past that, do you actually think he's a smart man? Do you actually think anything he says is doable, or realistic, or valid?

He just seems like a Gladiator appeasing the angry mob to me.

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Are they entertained??? They're the same people that know what's going on with the Kardashians and actually give a fuck, and the same with honey boo boo. They probably even watched Trumps horrible reality show/ shows.

Meh - I wouldn't want the fate of my country in the hands of a power hungry reality tv star.
The only person dramatizing is you. Trump is not a TV star, but if he keeps drawing in crowds by the tens of thousands, then he may very well soon be. How many Republican candidates ( other than Trump) are traveling to Vermont in one of the most liberal cities in America (Bernie's home turf) to hold massive rallies with thousands of people? The answer is zero. His popularity is growing, you can't stop the momentum, and people who underestimate him are left in the dust.
 
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Fogdog

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The more you keep trying to make Trump look like he lied, the more proof I will show you he is right.

“Investigators said at least two of the hijackers, Nawaq Al Hamzi and Salem Al Hamzi are believed to have had addresses in Wayne and Fort Lee, NJ. The apparently rented a mailbox in Fort Lee at Mailboxes Etc. in Jersey City within hours of two jetliners plowing into the World Trade Center. Law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river.” -Washington Post Sept. 18, 2001
Dude, there were no celebrations of thousands and thousands of Muslims. That's a lie fabricated by Trump. Again, you refute the correction of this lie with reports of "a number of people allegedly celebrating". Its not even close to what Trump claims. If thousands had celebrated, there would be video showing it. There is none because its all a lie.

Trump is lying with the same purpose that Hitler had when he attacked Jews. Trump first tried to use Mexicans in the same way ("criminals and rapists") but that didn't work so now he's hate mongering using a smaller minority. He and fellow conservatives keep repeating the lie and enough people believe it to make it worthwhile. The 10% or 20% that are ignorant bigots in this country lap it up. So he goes there. Wallace did the same thing in 1968 using race and he was succeeding with it. Not that I'm advocating for Trump what happened to Wallace. It's just that conservatives (Democrat or Republican) like to use minority "threats" as a way to draw in haters. Expect more of the same if the strategy helps the Donald gain the nomination. The tactic is entirely evil.
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Fogdog

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All politicians lie.

That's a fact. Every single one of them. Regardless of party.

Getting past that, do you actually think he's a smart man? Do you actually think anything he says is doable, or realistic, or valid?

He just seems like a Gladiator appeasing the angry mob to me.

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Are they entertained??? They're the same people that know what's going on with the Kardashians and actually give a fuck, and the same with honey boo boo. They probably even watched Trumps horrible reality show/ shows.

Meh - I wouldn't want the fate of my country in the hands of a power hungry reality tv star.
hahahaha....People supporting Trump are same that watch Honey BooBoo.

That's good.

I can see the similarites too.


 

Yessica...

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The only person dramatizing is you. Trump is not a TV star, but if he keeps drawing in crowds by the tens of thousands, then he may very well soon be. How many Republican candidates ( other than Trump) are traveling to Vermont in one of the most liberal cities in America (Bernie's home turf) to hold massive rallies with thousands of people? The answer is zero. His popularity is growing, you can't stop the momentum, and people who underestimate him are left in the dust.
I'll bet you my first born demon child that there is NO WAY he wins.

Seriously. You can have the little fucker. It's going to have a tail and be the spawn of Satan. But still, all yours buddy if Trump wins.

I have more faith in humanity than that. Never going to happen.
 

Fogdog

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The only person dramatizing is you. Trump is not a TV star, but if he keeps drawing in crowds by the tens of thousands, then he may very well soon be. How many Republican candidates ( other than Trump) are traveling to Vermont in one of the most liberal cities in America (Bernie's home turf) to hold massive rallies with thousands of people? The answer is zero. His popularity is growing, you can't stop the momentum, and people who underestimate him are left in the dust.
Oh, man, you are deluded. Try this to help you back to reality: http://www.inquisitr.com/2654746/bernie-sanders-defeats-donald-trump-in-general-election-new-poll-finds/

So, recent polls (from early December) show Sanders handily beating Trump and Clinton beating Trump by a lesser margin but still significant. The polls show such wide margins of victory that if realized in the general election they predict a disaster for the GOP in congressional and gubernatorial races as well. Conservatives should fear a Trump win in the primaries. I on the other hand relish the idea.

Just like the lie regarding New Jersey Muslims celebrating "by the thousands" in 911 that you continue to flag even when your own citations prove you wrong, you cling to the idea that that windbag will win even when you have nothing to back your statement. I thought you were better than this, but I guess I was wrong. Too much Fox news spoils the brain, @Not GOP .
 

pnwmystery

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The only person dramatizing is you. Trump is not a TV star, but if he keeps drawing in crowds by the tens of thousands, then he may very well soon be. How many Republican candidates ( other than Trump) are traveling to Vermont in one of the most liberal cities in America (Bernie's home turf) to hold massive rallies with thousands of people? The answer is zero. His popularity is growing, you can't stop the momentum, and people who underestimate him are left in the dust.
Trump isn't a TV star? LOL

 

Not GOP

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Oh, man, you are deluded. Try this to help you back to reality: http://www.inquisitr.com/2654746/bernie-sanders-defeats-donald-trump-in-general-election-new-poll-finds/

So, recent polls (from early December) show Sanders handily beating Trump and Clinton beating Trump by a lesser margin but still significant. The polls show such wide margins of victory that if realized in the general election they predict a disaster for the GOP in congressional and gubernatorial races as well. Conservatives should fear a Trump win in the primaries. I on the other hand relish the idea.

Just like the lie regarding New Jersey Muslims celebrating "by the thousands" in 911 that you continue to flag even when your own citations prove you wrong, you cling to the idea that that windbag will win even when you have nothing to back your statement. I thought you were better than this, but I guess I was wrong. Too much Fox news spoils the brain, @Not GOP .
Thousands of Muslims were celebrating all across the world. Some of those people being in New Jeresey. You can try and pick his statements apart as much as you want, but we all know what he meant. Muslims celebrating 9/11 is not something that will break the Trump campaign. If anything, it has risen him in the polls.
 

2ANONYMOUS

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Thousands of Muslims were celebrating all across the world. Some of those people being in New Jeresey. You can try and pick his statements apart as much as you want, but we all know what he meant. Muslims celebrating 9/11 is not something that will break the Trump campaign. If anything, it has risen him in the polls.
sure i bet even North Korea was wanna bet on that one
 

Not GOP

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I'll bet you my first born demon child that there is NO WAY he wins.

Seriously. You can have the little fucker. It's going to have a tail and be the spawn of Satan. But still, all yours buddy if Trump wins.

I have more faith in humanity than that. Never going to happen.
Yes, Trump Can, and he Will win. I'll bet you emo sex on the third date that he takes the entire electoral process by storm.

Your child is not the demon spawn of satan. He just needs a strong father figure. But if you really don't want him, then sure. I'll take the bastard and raise him to be a strong, successful, principled conservative
 

Fogdog

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Thousands of Muslims were celebrating all across the world. Some of those people being in New Jeresey. You can try and pick his statements apart as much as you want, but we all know what he meant. Muslims celebrating 9/11 is not something that will break the Trump campaign. If anything, it has risen him in the polls.
I'm not picking his statement apart. He said "thousands upon thousands IN NEW JERSEY". Its a very important difference between that statement and what you just conceded. He is saying that Muslim-AMERICANS celebrated in the "thousands upon thousands" the destruction of the world trade center and deaths of thousands of their neighbors. That's a very different message from what you just said. Can you understand why he said it is hate mongering, pandering to bigots and harmful to Muslim-Americans?

Why would anybody want a president that would say this? Don't conservatives have better options?
 
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Flaming Pie

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I don't care about negative opinions. Or positive opinions.

I just like learning someone else's perspective. And asking them why they feel the way they do.

I don't see the same information you do. I don't watch American news or read American papers.

There was a very interesting discussion on CBC radio about Donald. A man was calling him a fascist. Then a real smart jewish doctor came on, and talked about how using the term "fascist" and comparing him to Hitler is ridiculous. He isn't killing anyone.

He's a sound bite. I don't think, politically, he has a leg to stand on. If he was in charge, he's so narcissistic that I think he would ignore the advice of others and burn your country to the ground.

I hope that doesn't happen for you. I really like going to the states.

But if a fucking wall gets built on the tax payers dime to "keep out" unwanted Mexicans, I will never step another foot in that country again.

Because I think that's fucking gross.

Once again though, this is just my opinion. Feel free to disagree!
It's not that the Mexicans are unwanted.

It is that there are not enough people to patrol a border that large without some type of fence to aid them.

Countries like to know who is within their borders for security and financial reasons.

What we should do is enforce the laws in place.

The police however do not have authority to hold the criminals for more than 48 hours in some states for pick up from immigration. So they are released back onto the streets.

They can be a drain on public resources and don't pay taxes unless they have a work visa.

Crime and money. We can't stop criminals from coming in with an unsecured border and we can't support the needs of those that haven't contributed to the taxes of that state. Our police and resources are stretched thin.

What needs to happen is a double fence with a road, cameras and stations every 10 miles keeping watch with vehicles and national Guard.

Streamline the legal immigration process so they can enter the US in 18 months. Why can Syrian refugees with no papers be vetted that fast and Mexicans who seek legal citizenship and have documentation wait 5-10 years? We must bring it down to 18 months.

Then enforce the immigration law on people with no children and deport them. Those with children apply for citizenship and are treated as if on probation for the 18 months to make sure they complete the process. Violating the agreement for citizenship application or failing to work out an agreement in cases of lacking funds will be deported.

Allow police to hold criminal illegals until Immigration comes to deport them and federally reimburse the state for any expenses involved in housing the criminal in place of immigration.

Secure the border. Streamline application for citizenship down to 18 months. Remove unattached illegals present. Offer probationary application for citizenship to families with children or sick elderly. Empower the police to hold criminals as long as necessary for immigration to deport.
 
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