Damn right, I've got the blues.

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SPLFreak808

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My status line once said: "I don't have much growing experience but my experience is growing". I figured there was still a UV danger with the tubes. No?' I did notice with my HPS run my finish time was longer also. Under MH the first 3 grows were like clockwork...70 days...With the HPS, it was 75 days when I started chopping and could have waited longer it seemed. Is that your experience?
Honestly,it's been a while since ive used reptile bulbs, but im pretty sure i had to have them within 4-8" 2 hours a day to actually have the tops amber out faster but damn, the horti blue did the same thing at over a foot away probably because it was a permanent flower bulb at the time. Pretty sure ive got my reptiglo's and exos sitting around here somewhere they probably dont work anymore, but the hortilux blue was a total system replacement and a much better one imo. Where i live, the sun puts out a retarded amount of UV, 7-8 +/- being average, 11 on a hot day. yet some girls are much more frosty then the others outdoor. Forced maturity via single band UV-x/b is also something i wouldn't like to get into, it will just spark an argument, i will say though its got alot to do with genotypes/phenotypes.
 

Cl@rksville

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[QUOTE="Forced maturity via single band UV-x/b is also something i wouldn't like to get into, it will just spark an argument, i will say though its got alot to do with genotypes/phenotypes.[/QUOTE]

Oh no I think you're wrong there! :bigjoint:
 

SPLFreak808

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[QUOTE="Forced maturity via single band UV-x/b is also something i wouldn't like to get into, it will just spark an argument, i will say though its got alot to do with genotypes/phenotypes.
Oh no I think you're wrong there! :bigjoint:[/QUOTE]
A little slurrred this morning , i probably didnt mean "forced". I meant to say, i favor mature buds grown outdoors rather then my blues. Some strains indoor will take on a sleepy watery eye stone if over-ripe, the same ones outdoor usually have a different feeling even when over-ripe. Was that sarcasm? Sorry, i smoked my brain away an hour ago lol
 

bravedave

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If two weeks is a deal breaker you should run sog that way you don't waste any time at all.
70*5= 350
84*4=336

So in a calender year MH gets 5 harvests and the HPS gets 4.
Does the HPS outyield MH by 25%??

No sog planned but a scrog WILL happen someday.
 

mr sunshine

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70*5= 350
84*4=336

So in a calender year MH gets 5 harvests and the HPS gets 4.
Does the HPS outyield MH by 25%??

No sog planned but a scrog WILL happen someday.
I get a lb and a half a light. Does it? I've never used mh I can't really give you a yes or no answer on that one dave. I harvest the glue at day 63 most of the rest of the stuff I grow goes 9 to 10 weeks. That dude's fucking with you Dave the plant doesn't finish faster with mh.. that's crazy talk!
 

mr sunshine

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Is this true?
Fuck no! Nobody gets grade A weed in less then 9 weeks using indica dominant strains grown in soil.. I've seen a few strains that say 6 to 7 weeks but i doubt it.. mh might degrade tricomes at a faster rate then HPS but tricomes are just one part of what you take into consideration when harvesting. I need to see it crown and stack. Swollen is what your looking for.. If it was all about tricomes outdoor growers would harvest at week 6.
 

bravedave

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I get a lb and a half a light. Does it? I've never used mh I can't really give you a yes or no answer on that one dave. I harvest the glue at day 63 most of the rest of the stuff I grow goes 9 to 10 weeks. That dude's fucking with you Dave the plant doesn't finish faster with mh.. that's crazy talk!
Just doing the math for you as you seemed to doubt the relevance of 14 days and actually @hotrodharley is rather reliable. You are kind of a moving target.
 

bravedave

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Fuck no! Nobody gets grade A weed in less then 9 weeks using indica dominant strains grown in soil.. I've seen a few strains that say 6 to 7 weeks but i doubt it.. mh might degrade tricomes at a faster rate then HPS but tricomes are just one part of what you take into consideration when harvesting. I need to see it crown and stack. Swollen is what your looking for.. If it was all about tricomes outdoor growers would harvest at week 6.
Seems to me that you say "Fuck No!" here and go on to argue against something that was never said. Thats rather convenient.
 

mr sunshine

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Just doing the math for you as you seemed to doubt the relevance of 14 days and actually @hotrodharley is rather reliable. You are kind of a moving target.
Lol do your research before you open your mouth. You think I make you look bad dave, but you do that shit on your own. You are arguing over 2 extra weeks that don't exist I harvest everything probably before you do . 2 weeks dave I give you a solution that cuts out your entire veg time and you say no I'm not going to do that but look at the two weeks( that don't exist). You're much smarter when you shut the fuck up.
 

mr sunshine

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Seems to me that you say "Fuck No!" here and go on to argue against something that was never said. Thats rather convenient.
It seems that way to you because you're a noob. Every real grower understands me. Some may not Like me to much but they definitely understand me. You can't Keep up with the conversation because you don't understand it yet.
 

bravedave

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Lol do your research before you open your mouth. You think I make you look bad dave, but you do that shit on your own. You are arguing over 2 extra weeks that don't exist I harvest everything probably before you do . 2 weeks dave I give you a solution that cuts out your entire veg time and you say no I'm not going to do that but look at the two weeks( that don't exist). You're much smarter when you shut the fuck up.
Take a Midol little yellow bird. I just was reacting to something that was actually said...you should try it sometime
 

hotrodharley

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I would think that would be a deal breaker. Is the extra yield worth it?
I found the smoke less potent but if yield is what you are after in a larger grow it would be worth it. I added MH and made my buds better. But the yield was no 25% larger with HPS alone. Whoever said that is off in my own experience.
 

bravedave

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I found the smoke less potent but if yield is what you are after in a larger grow it would be worth it. I added MH and made my buds better. But the yield was no 25% larger with HPS alone. Whoever said that is off in my own experience.
The 25% more is what HPS would have to do to outperform MH yield-wise over the course of a year in the scenerio where HPS takes 14 days longer than MH.
Bottom line is if HPS takes 14 days longer, then MH would win both the quality AND quantity battle over the course of a year. No reason to use HPS at all.
 
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The_Herban_Legend

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I found the smoke less potent but if yield is what you are after in a larger grow it would be worth it. I added MH and made my buds better. But the yield was no 25% larger with HPS alone. Whoever said that is off in my own experience.
In your experience, is the potency elevated with hps and mh lighting, combined?
 
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