Damn right, I've got the blues.

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SPLFreak808

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mr sunshine said:
I find it hard to believe the hps is the reason your girls were significantly less frosty. I grow under hps and my nugs stick to walls. You should look into running genetics that produce that bag appeal/frost we are all after.
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i agree, genetics/pheno's that frost, will frost given enough par.
 
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mr sunshine said:
I've been telling Dave this for months. He just can't accept the fact that his genetics are not worthy. I can see why though , he drove 3500 miles to get those subpar cuts.
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Well i got to admit, if i drove that far for some "okay" cuts i would try to atleast finish em the best i can. I'd be shocked though if he doesnt go hunting for better cuts (not saying his shit is crap, but we all know there is something better for what he is trying to do).

If he's ever pheno hunted under hps im sure he will find a few pheno's in there that frost the fuck up to the point the buds look almost white at a distance. I have, because of this I've put my 1kw blue bulbs away and couldn't be any happier with what i get. No more buying hortilux blue for me. No more sunburn on the back of my neck for me.
 
bravedave

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SPLFreak808 said:
i agree, genetics/pheno's that frost, will frost given enough par.
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Did you read what precipitated this light quest? I have never discounted genetics and my genetics have been getting people high since the early 1990s. It is still around for a reason. I started with MH only because the guy who got me started instructed me to. It was here I started reading that most ran HPS during flower.
So after 3 successful newb grows that saw increased yields every grow, I bought a HPS for use in grow 4. Being a newb on your first grow you are pretty excited to see those first trichs forming and you remember when it happens. Under the MH it was at 3 weeks. Like my current grow pictured in the first thread here. Sooo, when at 3 weeks under the HPS there was nothing it got my attention. The next 3 showed some frost but no where near what I had come to expect. At day 50 I gave up on the HPS and switched back to the MH.

All other factors were virtually identical to grow 3.

The HPS bulb is a cheapy but built for growing (ipower 600w Super Hps Hortilife). Not alot of blues though and I figured it was missing the little bit of UV the MH was providing. Thus what you see here.

Yeah, so my genetics respond favorably to a little more UV. What is your explanation?

On another note, Mr Sunshine is a troll of mine and a fraud and everything he purports about me is fabrication and the only reason he is here is because Uncle Puke told him to be and like a good flying monkey he obeys.
 
mr sunshine

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bravedave said:
Did you read what precipitated this light quest? I have never discounted genetics and my genetics have been getting people high since the early 1990s. It is still around for a reason. I started with MH only because the guy who got me started instructed me to. It was here I started reading that most ran HPS during flower.
So after 3 successful newb grows that saw increased yields every grow, I bought a HPS for use in grow 4. Being a newb on your first grow you are pretty excited to see those first trichs forming and you remember when it happens. Under the MH it was at 3 weeks. Like my current grow pictured in the first thread here. Sooo, when at 3 weeks under the HPS there was nothing it got my attention. The next 3 showed some frost but no where near what I had come to expect. At day 50 I gave up on the HPS and switched back to the MH.

All other factors were virtually identical to grow 3.

The HPS bulb is a cheapy but built for growing (ipower 600w Super Hps Hortilife). Not alot of blues though and I figured it was missing the little bit of UV the MH was providing. Thus what you see here.

Yeah, so my genetics respond favorably to a little more UV. What is your explanation?

On another note, Mr Sunshine is a troll of mine and a fraud and everything he purports about me is fabrication and the only reason he is here is because Uncle Puke told him to be and like a good flying monkey he obeys.
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Lmfao.. your butthurt is showing. Get better genetics Dave that way you don't have to switch lights and as you say "sacrifice weight for quality". My gg#4 builds frost on day 14 under hps. Nobody believes you Dave, you are a class act but you're not a notable member.
 
SPLFreak808

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bravedave said:
Did you read what precipitated this light quest? I have never discounted genetics and my genetics have been getting people high since the early 1990s. It is still around for a reason. I started with MH only because the guy who got me started instructed me to. It was here I started reading that most ran HPS during flower.
So after 3 successful newb grows that saw increased yields every grow, I bought a HPS for use in grow 4. Being a newb on your first grow you are pretty excited to see those first trichs forming and you remember when it happens. Under the MH it was at 3 weeks. Like my current grow pictured in the first thread here. Sooo, when at 3 weeks under the HPS there was nothing it got my attention. The next 3 showed some frost but no where near what I had come to expect. At day 50 I gave up on the HPS and switched back to the MH.

All other factors were virtually identical to grow 3.

The HPS bulb is a cheapy but built for growong(ipower 600w Super Hps Hortilife). Not alot of blues though and I figured it was missing the little bit of UV the MH was providing. Thus what you see here.

Yeah, so my genetics respond favorably to a little more UV. What is your explanation?

On another note, Mr Sunshine is a troll of mine and a fraud and everything he purports about me is fabrication and the only reason he is here is because Uncle Puke told him to be and like a good flying monkey he obeys.
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I came here because i was a blue addict for years! Im not knocking your strains, they look pretty good regardless if they need an MH to respond early. I've got nothing to do with buck and sunshine. I was just simply saying, frosty genetics will respond early under an HPS too asuming bloom transition went well, while other genetics good or bad might take a bit longer, yes UV-B SIGNALS trichome production but hardly from a strain that already has it coded in its offspring/clones because it already did it outdoor for decades. Was that a mother you've kept from the 90's?
 
Michael Huntherz

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I like my T5s fine. I also have almost free electricity and cool ambient temps. I believe @RM3 has some very interesting things to say, nothing wrong with challenging the conventional. I'm going to run a bunch of WavePoint bulbs, I tried a few last time through and I am not displeased. I'm going to run much more UVB this time. Blue Power, y'all.
I'm going to start running COBs too, eventually, because I have to agree that enough PAR makes (most of) the magic happen. I think both UVB and Far Red seem to have different very distinct benefits, as well. Plus it is just plain fun to try different stuff.
 
bravedave

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SPLFreak808 said:
I came here because i was a blue addict for years! Im not knocking your strains, they look pretty good regardless if they need an MH to respond early. I've got nothing to do with buck and sunshine. I was just simply saying, frosty genetics will respond early under an HPS too asuming bloom transition went well, while other genetics good or bad might take a bit longer, yes UV-B SIGNALS trichome production but hardly from a strain that already has it coded in its offspring/clones because it already did it outdoor for decades. Was that a mother you've kept from the 90's?
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Oh good. Almost prefaced the post by asking if you were a flying monkey too. ;). Appreciate the input
I only received clones. I assume a number of mothers were utilized along the way. My T5 light has a switch so no burn for me either. Bottom line is I am just trying to squeeze everything out of what I have.
 
abe supercro

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I'm lookin to get a few new magnetic ballasts, in lieu of digital 600s or 1000s. don't mind the added temp increase (in winter i vent to the rest of the hse). moreover, the digitals mess with my radio waves.

my plants and i require mixed spectrum and good lloco radio reception.
Wat's this "almost free electricity" you speak of @Michael Huntherz?
 
Michael Huntherz

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abe supercro said:
I'm lookin to get a few new magnetic ballasts, in lieu of digital 600s or 1000s. don't mind the added temp increase (in winter i vent to the rest of the hse). moreover, the digitals mess with my radio waves.

my plants and i require mixed spectrum and good lloco radio reception.
Wat's this "almost free electricity" you speak of @Michael Huntherz?
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Hrm, divulging that might reveal too much about my location.
 
SPLFreak808

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bravedave said:
Oh good. Almost prefaced the post by asking if you were a flying monkey too. ;). Appreciate the input
I only received clones. I assume a number of mothers were utilized along the way. My T5 light has a switch so no burn for me either. Bottom line is I am just trying to squeeze everything out of what I have.
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T5's dont burn lol! Its the fricken mh/blue without the glass that hurts! I notice only 1 major thing with blue over red, many will probably not agree but taste seems different and I've tried it many times, i find some strains to taste better flowered under an HPS or vice versa. For example, i like the taste of kush/haze flowered under HPS bulbs. It seems more sour and puckery, the same clones flowered under the blues tasted more gassy more earthy and less piney. I couldn't tell a difference in potency
 
bravedave

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SPLFreak808 said:
T5's dont burn lol! Its the fricken mh/blue without the glass that hurts! I notice only 1 major thing with blue over red, many will probably not agree but taste seems different and I've tried it many times, i find some strains to taste better flowered under an HPS or vice versa. For example, i like the taste of kush/haze flowered under HPS bulbs. It seems more sour and puckery, the same clones flowered under the blues tasted more gassy more earthy and less piney. I couldn't tell a difference in potency
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My status line once said: "I don't have much growing experience but my experience is growing". I figured there was still a UV danger with the tubes. No?' I did notice with my HPS run my finish time was longer also. Under MH the first 3 grows were like clockwork...70 days...With the HPS, it was 75 days when I started chopping and could have waited longer it seemed. Is that your experience?
 
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bravedave said:
My status line once said: "I don't have much growing experience but my experience is growing". I figured there was still a UV danger with the tubes. No?' I did notice with my HPS run my finish time was longer also. Under MH the first 3 grows were like clockwork...70 days...With the HPS, it was 75 days when I started chopping and could have waited longer it seemed. Is that your experience?
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Plants grown totally under HPS yield more but take about 2 weeks longer to finish than those vegged under MH or CFL.
 
Michael Huntherz

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bravedave said:
My status line once said: "I don't have much growing experience but my experience is growing". I figured there was still a UV danger with the tubes. No?' I did notice with my HPS run my finish time was longer also. Under MH the first 3 grows were like clockwork...70 days...With the HPS, it was 75 days when I started chopping and could have waited longer it seemed. Is that your experience?
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Reptile T5 HO can wreck your eyes with UVB, shades are a must, I assume other lamps with peaks near UVB range are the same.
 
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