Why do we continue being slaves to society and turning ourselves into zombies?

[BigEasy1]

I have an employer funded pension and a 401K. Estimates are that combined with Social Security I'll make in retirement what I make working.

 

[ttystikk]

I have an employer funded pension and a 401K. Estimates are that combined with Social Security I'll make in retirement what I make working.

This should be standard fare in American work life. That it isn't shows just how far things have gotten out of hand; I mean, we fucked millions of hard working Americans out of their pensions in the 80s and 90s... and it didn't help the economy one bit- it just created more fat cats.

 

[BigEasy1]

This should be standard fare in American work life. That it isn't shows just how far things have gotten it if hand; I mean, we ducked millions of hard working Americans out of their pensions in the 80s and 90s... and it didn't help the economy one bit- it just created more fat cats.

It should be standard just like not having to have two incomes per household to make a living shouldn't almost be mandatory these days. People have forgotten what America is about and have come to accept the butt fucking they're getting from the rich.

 

[ttystikk]

It should be standard just like not having to have two incomes per household to make a living shouldn't almost be mandatory these days. People have forgotten what America is about and have come to accept the butt fucking they're getting from the rich.

They believe the shit spewed on television.

 

[april]

So we all just wander around and forage?
People in urban centers pick dandelions out of the cracks in the cement?
I'm not sure what you mean by "live off the land."

With out electricity, one would need around an acre of land per person. Yeah, there are 1/10 of an acre gardens that produce shit tons of food, but those are costly and probably need electricity. Most people know nothing of growing food and have no interest in it beyond a few tomato plants.
If you are talking about foraging, that would devastate ecosystems.

I have chickens and a garden.

Oh hun lol should have explained myself better...

We need electricity and fuel...but I think solar power , steam, hydrolic, and kenetic energy are far better options. ..what I'm suggesting is change...that we stop depleting natural resources that we current use like fuel..we've become such a wasteful, materialistic society. ..do we need all these things we waste money on...not at all. Not saying go back to stone age...we need to think about our children's future. ..

 

[ttystikk]

Oh hun lol should have explained myself better...

We need electricity and fuel...but I think solar power , steam, hydrolic, and kenetic energy are far better options. ..what I'm suggesting is change...that we stop depleting natural resources that we current use like fuel..we've become such a wasteful, materialistic society. ..do we need all these things we waste money on...not at all. Not saying go back to stone age...we need to think about our children's future. ..

Oy vey... where do I start?

First, electricity and fuel have to come from somewhere! The only source you've mentioned above is solar- and it's intermittent and diffuse.

The rest; steam, 'hydraulic', and kinetic are forms of energy that again, need to be generated FROM something, these just transfer power or heat around.

Back to sources; fossil fuels. Coal = bad, agreed. BUT, don't lump natural gases in alongside coal and then toss them with the bathwater! Turns out that HOW the power is produced matters a great deal; burning natural gas is inefficient for generating electricity, but it's great for heat. Use of fuel cells changes that story completely and makes natural gas extremely attractive as a future energy source and transfer medium.

Back to sustainability; natural gas can be and is produced through natural, biological processes; if you ate beans recently, you've made some too! Pass naturally produced natural gas (methane) through fuel cells and you have your fully sustainable energy future.

Install fuel cells in place of furnaces in people's homes and they get the benefits of free cogenerated heat along with an extremely reliable source of electricity. Growers can use the cogenerated carbon dioxide. Costs down. Environment protected. Efficiency and reliability enhanced.

I know it's a bit technical, but I'm talking about converting natural gas, aka methane, a greenhouse gas that's twenty times stronger than carbon dioxide, into warmth and power.

That's turning pigshit into power in the hands of the People. That's sustainability... and it's supportive of innovation, which in the long run is the ONLY thing that will save our kind.

 

[Trousers]

If that happened in america people would either spend it all on hummers, their childrens education, titty bars, cocaine/meth/heroin, burn it to show off on youtube, alcohol, casinos and like health lol i love americans the culmination of the being human, sorry human being well fuck it whats the difference?!

You are an idiot. What are you basing this on?
The media?

Did your parents have any children that lived?

 

[Trousers]

Oh hun lol should have explained myself better...

We need electricity and fuel...but I think solar power , steam, hydrolic, and kenetic energy are far better options.

That has been happening for quite some time. Some of my electric comes from wind power and solar.

..what I'm suggesting is change...that we stop depleting natural resources that we current use like fuel..we've become such a wasteful, materialistic society.

I haven't.

..do we need all these things we waste money on.

We includes me, so
ipods? The computer you are typing on? The chair you are sitting on?
What do you mean?
I might agree with you on many things.
I don't need an iphone, but I do need a cell phone and a truck or a different career.
I don't need a house, but I like my yard and organic garden and my chickens.

..not at all. Not saying go back to stone age...we need to think about our children's future. ..

I believe the children are our future
Teach them well and let them lead the way
Show them all the beauty they possess inside
Give them a sense of pride to make it easier
Let the children's laughter remind us how we used to be

Everybody's searching for a hero
People need someone to look up to
I never found anyone who fulfilled my needs
A lonely place to be
And so I learned to depend on weed

[Chorus:]
I decided long ago, never to walk in anyone's shadows
If I fail, if I succeed
At least I'll live as I believe
No matter what they take from me
They can't take away my weed
Because the greatest love of all
Is happening to me
I found the greatest love of all
Inside of me
The greatest love of all
Is easy to achieve
Learning to love yourself
It is the greatest love of all

I believe the children are our future
Teach them well and let them lead the way
Show them all the beauty they possess inside
Give them a sense of pride to make it easier
Let the children's laughter remind us how we used to be

[Chorus]

And if, by chance, that special place
That you've been dreaming of
Leads you to a lonely place
Find your strength in love


edit: I do not mean to give you shit, I am just riffing/talking.
You are okay in my book Pickle Queen.

 

[Trousers]

The day after I have some elk steaks and a cheap beer I should be hooked up to machine to collect gas. I could run Tyler Durden's grow room for a week.

 

[charface]

I'm getting a nice used truck.
Don't get rid of money until I get it.
I need this.

 

[april]

That has been happening for quite some time. Some of my electric comes from wind power and solar.



I haven't.




We includes me, so
ipods? The computer you are typing on? The chair you are sitting on?
What do you mean?
I might agree with you on many things.
I don't need an iphone, but I do need a cell phone and a truck or a different career.
I don't need a house, but I like my yard and organic garden and my chickens.



I believe the children are our future
Teach them well and let them lead the way
Show them all the beauty they possess inside
Give them a sense of pride to make it easier
Let the children's laughter remind us how we used to be

Everybody's searching for a hero
People need someone to look up to
I never found anyone who fulfilled my needs
A lonely place to be
And so I learned to depend on weed

[Chorus:]
I decided long ago, never to walk in anyone's shadows
If I fail, if I succeed
At least I'll live as I believe
No matter what they take from me
They can't take away my weed
Because the greatest love of all
Is happening to me
I found the greatest love of all
Inside of me
The greatest love of all
Is easy to achieve
Learning to love yourself
It is the greatest love of all

I believe the children are our future
Teach them well and let them lead the way
Show them all the beauty they possess inside
Give them a sense of pride to make it easier
Let the children's laughter remind us how we used to be

[Chorus]

And if, by chance, that special place
That you've been dreaming of
Leads you to a lonely place
Find your strength in love


edit: I do not mean to give you shit, I am just riffing/talking.
You are okay in my book Pickle Queen.

Lol

See at least ur trying! I dunno man just think we're smarter than we this...

Sorry busy laughing. ..so set myself up lol

I luv my flat iron...but I don't need it..no my guy says I do....

 

[ttystikk]

You are an idiot. What are you basing this on?
The media?

Did your parents have any children that lived?

Based on studies of lottery winners- people who have basically had millions handed to them, more or less in the same fashion- I'd have to go with @KLITE on this one. Most lottery winners end up broke, many have substance abuse or other addictive behavior issues- and a surprisingly large fraction end up dead within a couple of years!

I guess the difference is earning it for yourself.

 

[Path of Light]

when the world finally realize that failure to respect Mother Earth will eventually result in the extinction of homosapiens & all species.
It has been stated by others,Solar,Wind,Hydro,Geothermal,biggest thing is to Recycle every possible waste we make so that our grandchildren have a future

 

[ttystikk]

when the world finally realize that failure to respect Mother Earth will eventually result in the extintion of homosapiens & all species.
It has been stated by others,Solar,Wind,Hydro,Geothermal,biggest thing is to Recycle every possible waste we make so that our grandchildren have a future

The way to do this is to subsidize recycling... by ending the subsidies on natural resource exploitation. That alone would be enough, because waste reduction and recycling activities are almost all cost savers.

 

[april]

Oy vey... where do I start?

First, electricity and fuel have to come from somewhere! The only source you've mentioned above is solar- and it's intermittent and diffuse.

The rest; steam, 'hydraulic', and kinetic are forms of energy that again, need to be generated FROM something, these just transfer power or heat around.

Back to sources; fossil fuels. Coal = bad, agreed. BUT, don't lump natural gases in alongside coal and then toss them with the bathwater! Turns out that HOW the power is produced matters a great deal; burning natural gas is inefficient for generating electricity, but it's great for heat. Use of fuel cells changes that story completely and makes natural gas extremely attractive as a future energy source and transfer medium.

Back to sustainability; natural gas can be and is produced through natural, biological processes; if you ate beans recently, you've made some too! Pass naturally produced natural gas (methane) through fuel cells and you have your fully sustainable energy future.

Install fuel cells in place of furnaces in people's homes and they get the benefits of free cogenerated heat along with an extremely reliable source of electricity. Growers can use the cogenerated carbon dioxide. Costs down. Environment protected. Efficiency and reliability enhanced.

I know it's a bit technical, but I'm talking about converting natural gas, aka methane, a greenhouse gas that's twenty times stronger than carbon dioxide, into warmth and power.

That's turning pigshit into power in the hands of the People. That's sustainability... and it's supportive of innovation, which in the long run is the ONLY thing that will save our kind.

I dunno I'm into theorizing. ..not the technical shit...I'm sure if a simple mind like mine can think of these ideas. ..the nerds of the world can implement them..look at u go ! Lol

 

[ttystikk]

I dunno I'm into theorizing. ..not the technical shit...I'm sure if a simple mind like mine can think of these ideas. ..the nerds of the world can implement them..look at u go ! Lol

'Theorizing' without some technical understanding of the factors involved has another name; 'guesswork'... which rarely points the way forward reliably.

Brainstorming is another story and I wholeheartedly support the activity! However, an essential component of a well structured program of brainstorming is the 'if we do that, what happens NEXT?' phase. This again gets technical, but it's essential as it serves the all important reality check function.

That's where 'applications specialists' like me come in... if the devil is in the details, the angel is in there, too.

 

[GrowUrOwnDank]

Doing a shitty 9 - 5 job,
Studying shitty education 9 - 9 (12 hours yes not kidding) when you can study at home and learn using the internet and teach yourself things
And turn ourselves into zombies rather than having flexible hours?
We can all be inventors instead of working a shitty job making someone else's dream come true while yours crumbles.

You are only enslaved to provide for yourself. Nourishment and entertainment. Housing. A 9 to 5 ain't that bad. When I was unemployed for almost a year I quickly realized that not having a job and not having the funds to be able to play to pass time was extremely boring. I fell into depression. I mean, some people can sit around and watch talk shows all day. Others may be motivated to do as you say and be productive and independent. I can't think of a single worthwhile invention that hasn't already been done. I like Shark Tank. But, many of us accept that we are not talented in that entrepreneurial spirit. So, we go to work. It's just the way it is.

 

[Grandpapy]

You are only enslaved to provide for yourself. Nourishment and entertainment. Housing. A 9 to 5 ain't that bad. When I was unemployed for almost a year I quickly realized that not having a job and not having the funds to be able to play to pass time was extremely boring. I fell into depression. I mean, some people can sit around and watch talk shows all day. Others may be motivated to do as you say and be productive and independent. I can't think of a single worthwhile invention that hasn't already been done. I like Shark Tank. But, many of us accept that we are not talented in that entrepreneurial spirit. So, we go to work. It's just the way it is.

It sounds like we should stop building Islands in the China sea and start manufacturing here.

 

[GrowUrOwnDank]

It sounds like we should stop building Islands in the China sea and start manufacturing here.

It's coming around little by little since the crash of 2008. I got displaced from being skilled in manufacturing by evolution. As the wages in China grow, the space is becoming a more level playing field. But, it's advanced manufacturing now. A young person will probably need an education in some field of advanced manufacturing. Like CMC, robotics, electronics. China has really come a long way too tho. They are competitively producing quality among the crap these days. I remember back in the day everything from China was junk. They've come a long way.

 

[JamesWolverine]

You are only enslaved to provide for yourself. Nourishment and entertainment. Housing. A 9 to 5 ain't that bad. When I was unemployed for almost a year I quickly realized that not having a job and not having the funds to be able to play to pass time was extremely boring. I fell into depression. I mean, some people can sit around and watch talk shows all day. Others may be motivated to do as you say and be productive and independent. I can't think of a single worthwhile invention that hasn't already been done. I like Shark Tank. But, many of us accept that we are not talented in that entrepreneurial spirit. So, we go to work. It's just the way it is.

I'm in the same position as you was now exactly the same including depression.