Legal to grow and possess illegal to sell

[mollymcgrammar]

Doesn`t ..."cash in" relate to sell ? But, "I`ll grow it and you can have the bud as long as I keep the stocks", aint a bad trade off.

You dont need to sell flowers to make money off the industry. Im pretty sure the folks at Humbolt, nirvana, attitude, and the other banks are doing quite well.

 

[OddBall1st]

What I`m trying to say is that selling the fibers, (or like Garden Boss or DoubleJJ)...the wood, is still selling and those guys are screwed if you can grow but not sell it.

 

[ohnothimagin]

I live in DC and we can grow but not sell. The price per ounce in legal to sell states is quite high, so I would rather grow my own. Plus I know there's no pesticides used, just nutes and hygrozyme and hydroguard. I've got three plants going now and am very pleased so far. I use a DWC system.

 

[mollymcgrammar]

What I`m trying to say is that selling the fibers, (or like Garden Boss or DoubleJJ)...the wood, is still selling and those guys are screwed if you can grow but not sell it.

In my opinion ideally this would mean you couldn't sell the buds themselves. Other plant material are not an issue.

 

[mollymcgrammar]

I live in DC and we can grow but not sell. The price per ounce in legal to sell states is quite high, so I would rather grow my own. Plus I know there's no pesticides used, just nutes and hygrozyme and hydroguard. I've got three plants going now and am very pleased so far. I use a DWC system.

If you dont mind me asking, whats a black market ounce cost on average there?

 

[OddBall1st]

In my opinion ideally this would mean you couldn't sell the buds themselves. Other plant material are not an issue.

So why can`t I make a Indica or Sativa drum kit, or furniture now ? Ma is a medicinal use State. I could give a hospital a great looking Indica doctors lounge.

 

[mollymcgrammar]

So why can`t I make a Indica or Sativa drum kit, or furniture now ? Ma is a medicinal use State. I could give a hospital a great looking Indica doctors lounge.

I see no valid reason why the other plant material should be an issue at all. In fact it is a benefit to every one.

 

[Fogdog]

I live in DC and we can grow but not sell. The price per ounce in legal to sell states is quite high, so I would rather grow my own. Plus I know there's no pesticides used, just nutes and hygrozyme and hydroguard. I've got three plants going now and am very pleased so far. I use a DWC system.

Agreed about the price and safety issues as reasons for home growing. At this time, if you are going to smoke very much, it makes sense to grow, especially if legal issues are eliminated.

Data reported from OR labs in recent articles showed at least half OR MMJ sold today contains potentially harmful pesticide residues. As a non-medical user, this means that I just say no to commercial MJ when it goes on sale for recreational use in October. I have no reason to expose myself to the risk of an ignorant grower poisoning me just so that I can get high every now and then.

Have there been any issues with complaints from neighbors of home growers in DC? Or other problems?

 

[UncleBuck]

Really ? I`ll take ya word on that. Might maybe be Dems. cuz didn`t Obama landslide the South ?

breathtaking in its sheer stupidity.

 

[OddBall1st]

breathtaking in its sheer stupidity.

Agreed, I got that buckwards....My bad...Obama took the North and West coast.

I see no valid reason why the other plant material should be an issue at all. In fact it is a benefit to every one.

The wood import laws state it must not be illegally obtained or endangered and a few others,..so if we could legally grow pot/hemp everything from clothes, furniture, ropes and cement mix is that much less to buy. But, what to do with those flowers and gardeners killing the males ? Males would become a good thing.........

 

[mollymcgrammar]

Agreed, I got that buckwards....My bad...Obama took the North and West coast.



The wood import laws state it must not be illegally obtained or endangered and a few others,..so if we could legally grow pot/hemp everything from clothes, furniture, ropes and cement mix is that much less to buy. But, what to do with those flowers and gardeners killing the males ? Males would become a good thing.........

Flowers for personal use and just keep females in greenhouses safe from males if you want bud. If your not growing for bud who care what sex they are.

 

[OddBall1st]

Flowers for personal use and just keep females in greenhouses safe from males if you want bud. If your not growing for bud who care what sex they are.

Exactly,...but those growing outdoors in their yards and such, wont like the increased pollen risks. A percentage will try something.

 

[mollymcgrammar]

Exactly,...but those growing outdoors in their yards and such, wont like the increased pollen risks. A percentage will try something.

Exactly, the folks growing for smoke will need to do something. If hemp is legalized thats a given.

 

[ChesusRice]

You still act like you have to placate some master to manipulate the system to get the scraps you want from the table.

I say make it legal and you say you cant because the people you elected wont let you??? Maybe that is the real problem...

It's not the people I elected.
It's the voters.

Do you seriously think I voted for Scott Walker?

 

[Rob Roy]

How do you make a 13 year old victim of sexual abuse from an adult like you whole?

I'd be happy to entertain the intent of your question concerning a fair resitution, but I'm afraid you're describing an innuendo laced and false situation.

I know....let's work on a more likely scenario. Ask me how a person that had a 17 year old drunk with a fish taped to waist would be made whole after the drunk kid shit on his floor and then passed out in a pile of dung.

 

[Rob Roy]

Can we get this back on track now? Robs a fucking weirdo, and uncle buck just likes to debate about anything. The thread is about Weed laws, not weather robroy is allowed near elementary schools.

You could be half right, that's about par for a half wit. This thread is about a proposed law that retains PROHIBITION as a cornerstone component.

 

[Rob Roy]

You watch too many youtube videos of people "trying" to pull that off. Much of the time it doesn't work out. If you've done something wrong, you're going down.

Interesting use of the word, "wrong". Didn't you mean if you've done something, "illegal" ?

Doing something illegal and doing something wrong are often two different things.

 

[ChesusRice]

I'd be happy to entertain the intent of your question concerning a fair resitution, but I'm afraid you're describing an innuendo laced and false situation.

I know....let's work on a more likely scenario. Ask me how a person that had a 17 year old drunk with a fish taped to waist would be made whole after the drunk kid shit on his floor and then passed out in a pile of dung.

Strawman
Weak very weak

 

[ChesusRice]

You could be half right, that's about par for a half wit. This thread is about a proposed law that retains PROHIBITION as a cornerstone component.

Strawman
Ad hominen

 

[Rob Roy]

Its easy to agree with you or @Rob Roy and go off to smoke a joint. Nothing of course would get done.

MJ should be legalized and people that want to get high from it or use it medicinally should be left alone. IMO, legalize all other drugs for that matter. It should be totally up to the individual adult what to put into their bodies. Take the dollars spent on enforcement and incarceration and put it into programs that will actually help addicts that want treatment to get off the drugs. Or into programs that educate and prevent harm from MJ and other drug abuse in adults and children.

But this is all just meaningless speech from a soap box. MJ users are a minority in this country and the majority (about 75%) are leery and ignorant about this drug. The MJ using minority has to recognize this and work with everybody else. The tide is turning and now a majority in this country are favorable towards decriminalizing MJ. As shown in CO, WA and OR, a lot of work has to be done to figure out how to meet the needs and mainly unjustified concerns of non-users while meeting the demands of the MJ marketplace in order to move the decriminalization needle a little bit towards sanity. The status quo isn't acceptable to anybody and total deregulation isn't acceptable to the majority in this country, not even within the communty of MJ users. So we have to find a middle ground or the status quo prevails.

I think @ChesusRice proposes something in the middle ground that should be looked into. From my perspective, Oregon's law allowing four plants and not more than 4 oz in possession for personal use is an unreasonable constraint but I'm glad to have it. The commercial sales and distribution side of Oregon's laws are hopelessly complex due to the federal position on MJ as a schedule 1 drug. In time, we can work towards a more open policy but its a start.

You are wrong, sorry, Chesus bill should be shat upon.

It suggests that somehow working with an idea that removes our rights and replaces them with granted permission is somehow a win, which is absurd. It's just kinder slavery and blatantly acknowledges we aren't free.

I don't want or need permission to own myself to be granted from a coercive entity, I already own myself, so do you. Claim that right or creep meakly to masters back door for some left over hamhocks...but don't kid yourself when you do, you will still be a slave.

Treating slaves a little better is not a solution.... it's just a way for slavers to keep the plantation going and quell any real freedom talk.

Your suggested default position for "compromise" STILL criminalizes people for peaceful self determination. It fails to address the root problems / causes of prohibition. If another person or body of persons can determine what you or I ingest, THAT is the problem. Address THAT, not the conditions of your servitude. Why is servitude to another a foregone conclusion?


The default position shouldn't be we require permission to ingest something or trade in it with other willing people, the default position should be freedom based, not permission based.

"Prohibition lite" legislative bills are permission based and fail to recognize every person owns themself, no people own others. Strike the root causes if you want a real solution.