captainmorgan
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Full spectrum is what's important for quality. If your a flat earther and don't believe LED can give you that quality try CMH,it also has a properly balanced spectrum and will give you better quality than HPS.
Help choosing an LED replacement for 1000HPS?
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Darth Vapour
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What i find ironic is, everyone will use that one person concept,, or grow to prove there point that did a great job and believe ,,
Now we can believe in magic , mythical events , fairy tales, and Folklore..
You have every right to believe the world is FLAT , there is a god , and Jesus actually existed.. And Start to follow there beliefs as if it was some sort of religion ,, written by people 100's of years after the so called events ... HERE SAY
Lets look at a great example ,, HEATH ROBINSON for some He is a legend ,,,, for other's only herd of..
and for some lucky ones actually knew , spoke , and shared ideas ( like my self ) yet to this day know one has EVER came close to what he did .... Must i remind you all its like 20 years now
..But today with the legalization in many states we got them coming in from all walks of life.. Now.. And funny thing is really there the n Nit wits , ass wipes , and retards that have made this site what it is today even Sunni mentoned she has given up ..
with the flaming , trolling or what ever RIU 10 years ago and RIU today is really a fucking JOKE ... in comparison .... From reading above posts anyone can clearly see
With people always pointing out to this persons grow or that persons grow etc.. Has anyone here bought into those infomercials ?????
Fuck it neat, how these things does this or that ..
Yet when you purchased it on line,, and try to use it its nothing close to what it did in that commercial...
When a person is in line a MacDonald's, looking at the pictures of Big mac's , quarter pounders's, wraps ,, EC the pictures and final product are far from what it looks like in picture ..
See marketing does wonders ,, it really does...
Anyone growing a LED unit caan be sales man shit i start a 300 LEP plasma grow journal post pictures of them under few plants ,, but behind closed doors have 2000 watts of HPS growing them plants ,,but the day i update pictures of room ,, better make sure i drop them lights out of the picture ...
See where i am getting at ???
Its the internet take everything with a fucking grain of salt ,, i can easily push my agenda forward with plasma journal that would make it look out of this world ..
Now with that all said anyone can pull journals on the tube here and any other forum 1000's kick ass 2.5 -3 pound harvest are normal every day occurrence they will grow you any size plant and fast ...
Now this member mentioned Greengene ?? curious is he not starting up some cob LED company ??? if so could this not be a great marketing scheme ....
i mean they say marketing is 90 percent of sales ... could he not be a previous sales rep for APACHE where he might of got a demo unit or free hell i remember SARA from mars led lighting was going to send me 1600 watt LED unit for documented grow when they first came out ,, And for a free,,, anyone is not going to slam there product but boast it
KarmaPaymentPlan
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sure we have to trust people online but some people are doing it right and honestly and these people have a reputation for helping unlike others who show up to poke holes constantly with no intention of helping those are the people who ruin it for everyone and that's the state of the web but regardless of test results or these extravagant claims that hps is the only way to go i believe through and through you get a fuller flavor/terpene profile with led and that to me is worth more then any high thc contentWhat i find ironic is, everyone will use that one person concept,, or grow to prove there point that did a great job and believe ,,
Now we can believe in magic , mythical events , fairy tales, and Folklore..
You have every right to believe the world is FLAT , there is a god , and Jesus actually existed.. And Start to follow there beliefs as if it was some sort of religion ,, written by people 100's of years after the so called events ... HERE SAY
Lets look at a great example ,, HEATH ROBINSON for some He is a legend ,,,, for other's only herd of..
and for some lucky ones actually knew , spoke , and shared ideas ( like my self ) yet to this day know one has EVER came close to what he did .... Must i remind you all its like 20 years now
But today with the legalization in many states we got them coming in from all walks of life.. Now.. And funny thing is really there the n Nit wits , ass wipes , and retards that have made this site what it is today even Sunni mentoned she has given up ..
with the flaming , trolling or what ever RIU 10 years ago and RIU today is really a fucking JOKE ... in comparison .... From reading above posts anyone can clearly see
With people always pointing out to this persons grow or that persons grow etc.. Has anyone here bought into those infomercials ?????
Fuck it neat, how these things does this or that ..
Yet when you purchased it on line,, and try to use it its nothing close to what it did in that commercial...
When a person is in line a MacDonald's, looking at the pictures of Big mac's , quarter pounders's, wraps ,, EC the pictures and final product are far from what it looks like in picture ..
See marketing does wonders ,, it really does...
Anyone growing a LED unit caan be sales man shit i start a 300 LEP plasma grow journal post pictures of them under few plants ,, but behind closed doors have 2000 watts of HPS growing them plants ,,but the day i update pictures of room ,, better make sure i drop them lights out of the picture ...
See where i am getting at ???
Its the internet take everything with a fucking grain of salt ,, i can easily push my agenda forward with plasma journal that would make it look out of this world ..
Now with that all said anyone can pull journals on the tube here and any other forum 1000's kick ass 2.5 -3 pound harvest are normal every day occurrence they will grow you any size plant and fast ...
Now this member mentioned Greengene ?? curious is he not starting up some cob LED company ??? if so could this not be a great marketing scheme ....
i mean they say marketing is 90 percent of sales ... could he not be a previous sales rep for APACHE where he might of got a demo unit or free hell i remember SARA from mars led lighting was going to send me 1600 watt LED unit for documented grow when they first came out ,, And for a free,,, anyone is not going to slam there product but boast it
a mongo frog
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No ones saying the quality of LED is weak or sub par in quality of flower. Your shit came out bomb bomb. Its when you start saying better quality is where your wrong. Gardeners and genetics is whats really going on.
KarmaPaymentPlan
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If he grew it wouldn't he know i mean you are just looking at a picture
a mongo frog
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Thats a really good point. But I've smoked the glue and have friends running the glue. So i know with 100 percent fact that his flower came out super dank. Still gardener and strain is the key factor to super quality. I can't believe some are even arguing this fact.
Darth Vapour
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I am not here to poke holes constantly i am here for open discussion .. It mostly you LED believers pushing the issue like you got a point to prove and , truthfully speaking your losing the battle here
Lets be realistic here lol
http://www.apachetechinc.com/white-red/25-at600.html
Shit 2500.00 oh oh my comparible to 1000 watts
The AT600 is our new state-of-the-art high output LED array. This light has a footprint greater than 4' x 4' and a PAR output that exceeds a 1000W HID. This light is a direct replacement for all 1000W HIDs and has occur unique and patented color spectrum that includes our multi-spectral white chip with two rows of our enhanced red.
^^^^ so is this unit pulling 3.5 - 4 pounds per ???? Like fuck it is lucky if you hit 1..5 - 2.0
for 2500.00 hahaha you retarded ???
Only a nit wit would spend that much on one unit that might come close to yielding what a 1000 watt would lol seriously
lets look here one must be a smart shopper so it cost 2500.00 for one unit lol to make what ??? in product ???
for that price i will buy 5 of these and pull over 2.5 - 3 pounds consistently
grow after grow Do the math who is on holidays living the dream after that grow
2500.00 to make 1 - 2 pounds LED grow
2500 to make 15 pounds DE grow
you get one post above member mentioning cause he has or grows a variety of strains lol that he has input in the matter ,I must say i laughed really hard on that on
Last time i understood THC / CBD was strain related although lights are the driving force you can have all the proper Kelvin all you want ...
If your VPD, enviroments is out of wack same thing can apply to THC Content
a mongo frog
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Not sure what you mean. In what way?
Darth Vapour
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Will LED surpass HPS for efficiency off course you got to to remember one thing LED's Achilles heel is there price is so high they are not seeing lots of money Everyone tends to think HPS is out dated blah blah i promise you all one thing what Hordilux, Philips invest Yearly in QC, upgrades , bettering the product exceeds LEDS income tri fold
Meaning whats to say in the next couple years in the HPS world 99 CRI will be a normal every day thing look at the performance of the DE compared to old mogul style sockets wait who knows what they may come up with full spectrum HID here
amazing bulb and still less cost then a LED unit Hordilux super blue MH/ HPS in one bulb 30 day old clone or i should say nice plant now again i posted this in another thread would love to see what a LED plant looks like 30 days old from clone
PS Please note your not going to find it
Meaning whats to say in the next couple years in the HPS world 99 CRI will be a normal every day thing look at the performance of the DE compared to old mogul style sockets wait who knows what they may come up with full spectrum HID here
amazing bulb and still less cost then a LED unit Hordilux super blue MH/ HPS in one bulb 30 day old clone or i should say nice plant now
again i posted this in another thread would love to see what a LED plant looks like 30 days old from clone PS Please note your not going to find it
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GFS_Nic
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What is the price and lifespan of a DE bulb ? It's a serious question, not a troll. They don't sell those in my growshop.
@Darth Vapour : Growing from clone is faster or slower than seed ?
Peace
@Darth Vapour : Growing from clone is faster or slower than seed ?
Peace
djweed420
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I'm not quite sure what you implying but the only reason why I mentioned him was cos I was following one of his threads about his LED grow and thought of him as someone who knows something about LED as compared to me a complete noob lol.
djweed420
Active Member
Thanks I'll look them up and see if they do.
djweed420
Active Member
Forgive my noob inexperience but what do you mean by PPFD?
I was looking at the Optic 500W CXB3590 as a possible replacement for my HPS if I don't go the DIY route. A good choice?
KarmaPaymentPlan
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they showed you numbers they showed you beautiful buds it's all here but you refuse to except it people are pulling the same numbers with less watts and less heat and they all believe that the quality had improved so take your business else were keep bringing up lights from years ago so whatever helps you feel better about yourself cause i don't think anyone is taking you seriousI am not here to poke holes constantly i am here for open discussion .. It mostly you LED believers pushing the issue like you got a point to prove and , truthfully speaking your losing the battle here
Lets be realistic here lol
http://www.apachetechinc.com/white-red/25-at600.html
Shit 2500.00 oh oh my comparible to 1000 watts
The AT600 is our new state-of-the-art high output LED array. This light has a footprint greater than 4' x 4' and a PAR output that exceeds a 1000W HID. This light is a direct replacement for all 1000W HIDs and has occur unique and patented color spectrum that includes our multi-spectral white chip with two rows of our enhanced red.
^^^^ so is this unit pulling 3.5 - 4 pounds per ???? Like fuck it is lucky if you hit 1..5 - 2.0
for 2500.00 hahaha you retarded ???
Only a nit wit would spend that much on one unit that might come close to yielding what a 1000 watt would lol seriously
lets look here one must be a smart shopper so it cost 2500.00 for one unit lol to make what ??? in product ???
for that price i will buy 5 of these and pull over 2.5 - 3 pounds consistently
grow after grow Do the math who is on holidays living the dream after that grow
2500.00 to make 1 - 2 pounds LED grow
2500 to make 15 pounds DE grow
you get one post above member mentioning cause he has or grows a variety of strains lol that he has input in the matter ,I must say i laughed really hard on that on
Last time i understood THC / CBD was strain related although lights are the driving force you can have all the proper Kelvin all you want ...
If your VPD, enviroments is out of wack same thing can apply to THC Content
a mongo frog
Well-Known Member
Hes not running 400 watts or 600 watts. Theres no need to cool those lamps. Dude knows his stuff and you know it. Just like you guys know your stuff.
THCbreeder
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Funny how you compare religion and Jesus or God to someone who has showed and can offer viable REALISTIC proof ... That is apples to oranges my friend. Others have used leds and posted many DIY on how to build lights that blow hps out of the water . I've seen it for myself . And I've run 1000w double ended , 600w ushio bulbs , 750w hortilux , before and I can say that when quality is the key goal leds offer the better spectrums and can give you better mobility as not ever grower has a scrog grow . I can have 4 lights at 4 different heights as need be unlike a raptor or magnum hood . Neither do I need to air cool my shit waisting more electricity that could of been used to make more buds .!!! Drink the 2010 KoolAID cause you can't teach reality to close minded people like yourself who've never laid hands on an good LED or COB or even built one like many members in this section . No disrespect , but don't coming knocking down doors without knowledge. How do you know any better when you never ran an LED in your life . Right cause someone told you so . I've run many systems next on my list is cmh and cobs. I'm sure that's bad to right cause it's not a 1000w .What i find ironic is, everyone will use that one person concept,, or grow to prove there point that did a great job and believe ,,
Now we can believe in magic , mythical events , fairy tales, and Folklore..
You have every right to believe the world is FLAT , there is a god , and Jesus actually existed.. And Start to follow there beliefs as if it was some sort of religion ,, written by people 100's of years after the so called events ... HERE SAY
Lets look at a great example ,, HEATH ROBINSON for some He is a legend ,,,, for other's only herd of..
and for some lucky ones actually knew , spoke , and shared ideas ( like my self ) yet to this day know one has EVER came close to what he did .... Must i remind you all its like 20 years now
But today with the legalization in many states we got them coming in from all walks of life.. Now.. And funny thing is really there the n Nit wits , ass wipes , and retards that have made this site what it is today even Sunni mentoned she has given up ..
with the flaming , trolling or what ever RIU 10 years ago and RIU today is really a fucking JOKE ... in comparison .... From reading above posts anyone can clearly see
With people always pointing out to this persons grow or that persons grow etc.. Has anyone here bought into those infomercials ?????
Fuck it neat, how these things does this or that ..
Yet when you purchased it on line,, and try to use it its nothing close to what it did in that commercial...
When a person is in line a MacDonald's, looking at the pictures of Big mac's , quarter pounders's, wraps ,, EC the pictures and final product are far from what it looks like in picture ..
See marketing does wonders ,, it really does...
Anyone growing a LED unit caan be sales man shit i start a 300 LEP plasma grow journal post pictures of them under few plants ,, but behind closed doors have 2000 watts of HPS growing them plants ,,but the day i update pictures of room ,, better make sure i drop them lights out of the picture ...
See where i am getting at ???
Its the internet take everything with a fucking grain of salt ,, i can easily push my agenda forward with plasma journal that would make it look out of this world ..
Now with that all said anyone can pull journals on the tube here and any other forum 1000's kick ass 2.5 -3 pound harvest are normal every day occurrence they will grow you any size plant and fast ...
Now this member mentioned Greengene ?? curious is he not starting up some cob LED company ??? if so could this not be a great marketing scheme ....
i mean they say marketing is 90 percent of sales ... could he not be a previous sales rep for APACHE where he might of got a demo unit or free hell i remember SARA from mars led lighting was going to send me 1600 watt LED unit for documented grow when they first came out ,, And for a free,,, anyone is not going to slam there product but boast it
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KarmaPaymentPlan
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every light needs some kind of exhaust and your grow area needs wind maybe you should learn your stuff first
KarmaPaymentPlan
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but he's gonna buy Lush then he'll show us all how crappy they are lol