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londonfog

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You still think you convinced anyone you didn't "edit" your bet after you lost? ......sad just sad
poor lonely bitter man. You took the bet after Ginwillly quoted me on the bet do you need to see it again.
Why don't you think Cheney made money off the Iraq war. Is it too hard to believe that people actually make money off others death? Have you ever made money off of others deaths ?
 

Red1966

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poor lonely bitter man. You took the bet after Ginwillly quoted me on the bet do you need to see it again.
Why don't you think Cheney made money off the Iraq war. Is it too hard to believe that people actually make money off others death? Have you ever made money off of others deaths ?
I never said Cheney didn't make money off the Iraqi war, liar. I said he didn't own stock in Halliburton when he took office. YOU said he did and could prove it. You then tried to claim stock options were identical to stock. You then "edited" your bet and welshed on it. So that gives me , and anyone else, the right to call you a lying piece of shit. And linking to the "edited" bet doesn't prove shit, except that you're still a liar.
 

londonfog

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Senca the Younger

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I never said Cheney didn't make money off the Iraqi war, liar. I said he didn't own stock in Halliburton when he took office. YOU said he did and could prove it. You then tried to claim stock options were identical to stock. You then "edited" your bet and welshed on it. So that gives me , and anyone else, the right to call you a lying piece of shit. And linking to the "edited" bet doesn't prove shit, except that you're still a liar.
Mother Jones article where Rand Paul accused Ex-VP Dick Cheney of profiting from the Iraq War.

"It's been easy for Cheney and his defenders to dismiss Paul's over-the-top, conspiracy-theory-like assertion. But on Fox News, the ex-veep, too, went too far. He maintained that he had no financial ties with Halliburton while he was George W. Bush's number-two and made a personal sacrifice by trading his CEO badge for a White House job. But that's not entirely accurate.

As Politifact.com noted a few years ago, when Cheney became vice president, he pocketed a $34 million payout from Halliburton. In fact, because he probably sold stock options at an opportune time, he profited enormously because the stock price was at a high:

It's not clear when Cheney sold his stock options, but it likely was within weeks of his being named to the ticket -- a period when Halliburton shares hit their 2000 peak, in the low-to-mid $50 range. By November 30, 2000, the stock had fallen to $33 a share. If he'd waited until then to sell, his payday would have been one-third lower, or roughly $14 million rather than $22 million.

Moreover, when Cheney was veep, he continued to receive deferred payments from Halliburton. In 2004, the New York Times reported, "Mr. Cheney’s financial disclosure statements from 2001, 2002 and 2003 show that since becoming vice president-elect, he has received $1,997,525 from the company: $1,451,398 in a bonus deferred from 1999, the rest in deferred salary." And at that time, Cheney still held some stock options in the company.

As vice president, Cheney repeatedly contended he had no continuing relationship with Halliburton. In 2003, he declared, "I've severed all my ties with the company, gotten rid of all my financial interest. I have no financial interest in Halliburton of any kind and haven't had, now, for over three years." But a report issued that year by the Congressional Research Service undermined Cheney's claim. It found that if a public official retained unexercised stock options and collected deferred salary—as Cheney did then—the official had "retained ties" to the company.

So when Cheney now says that he had nothing to do with Halliburton while he was vice-president, he is contradicted by the Congressional Research Service. Maybe he wasn't in contact with his old pals at the firm, but he continued to bank millions of dollars from the company as it obtained Iraq-related contracts from the US government.".
 

Red1966

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Mother Jones article where Rand Paul accused Ex-VP Dick Cheney of profiting from the Iraq War.

"It's been easy for Cheney and his defenders to dismiss Paul's over-the-top, conspiracy-theory-like assertion. But on Fox News, the ex-veep, too, went too far. He maintained that he had no financial ties with Halliburton while he was George W. Bush's number-two and made a personal sacrifice by trading his CEO badge for a White House job. But that's not entirely accurate.

As Politifact.com noted a few years ago, when Cheney became vice president, he pocketed a $34 million payout from Halliburton. In fact, because he probably sold stock options at an opportune time, he profited enormously because the stock price was at a high:

It's not clear when Cheney sold his stock options, but it likely was within weeks of his being named to the ticket -- a period when Halliburton shares hit their 2000 peak, in the low-to-mid $50 range. By November 30, 2000, the stock had fallen to $33 a share. If he'd waited until then to sell, his payday would have been one-third lower, or roughly $14 million rather than $22 million.

Moreover, when Cheney was veep, he continued to receive deferred payments from Halliburton. In 2004, the New York Times reported, "Mr. Cheney’s financial disclosure statements from 2001, 2002 and 2003 show that since becoming vice president-elect, he has received $1,997,525 from the company: $1,451,398 in a bonus deferred from 1999, the rest in deferred salary." And at that time, Cheney still held some stock options in the company.

As vice president, Cheney repeatedly contended he had no continuing relationship with Halliburton. In 2003, he declared, "I've severed all my ties with the company, gotten rid of all my financial interest. I have no financial interest in Halliburton of any kind and haven't had, now, for over three years." But a report issued that year by the Congressional Research Service undermined Cheney's claim. It found that if a public official retained unexercised stock options and collected deferred salary—as Cheney did then—the official had "retained ties" to the company.

So when Cheney now says that he had nothing to do with Halliburton while he was vice-president, he is contradicted by the Congressional Research Service. Maybe he wasn't in contact with his old pals at the firm, but he continued to bank millions of dollars from the company as it obtained Iraq-related contracts from the US government.".
********Another idiot that doesn't know the difference between "stock" and "stock option"^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 

Red1966

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I know you thought Cheney did not profit off the Iraq war. I also know you are neglectful and irresponsible
You know what I thought? Really? Yet this is not about what I thought, it's about "Did Cheney own Halliburton stock when he took office?" You keep trying to lie your way around it. Then, failing badly, you mock the death of my children. You are truly a piece of low life shit. You never fail to exhibit what a piece of shit you are. You and a few others here are examples of what self-righteous bastards are capable of.
 

londonfog

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You know what I thought? Really? Yet this is not about what I thought, it's about "Did Cheney own Halliburton stock when he took office?" You keep trying to lie your way around it. Then, failing badly, you mock the death of my children. You are truly a piece of low life shit. You never fail to exhibit what a piece of shit you are. You and a few others here are examples of what self-righteous bastards are capable of.
Yeah go back and get your alter ego...I like his Drama better
 

Red1966

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were you lying about smoke detectors not being invented in 1980's ???
Things like that you should focus more on.
Would stop any future "accidents"
Keep showing us what a piece of shit you are. Perhaps if you had ever loved anyone, you might have been a better person. Perhaps if you had been a better person, you might have loved someone. But, no...........you sit there in whatever shithole you live in and rejoice in the death of children. You are a sad little man.
 
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