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londonfog

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He died from complications that arise from a police state.

Murder begins where self defense ends. I think he was murdered.

His "crime" did not involve attacking another person, it was for trying to make a living and for thinking he owned himself. The victim was attacked and killed on the street. Badges, costumes and guns do not grant extra rights. The fuckers that killed him got away with murder. They were not protecting anybody.
Now if we can just get you to not support segregation...baby steps
 

Rob Roy

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Now if we can just get you to not support segregation...baby steps

I appreciate that you liked my post in this thread.

However, I do not support forced segregation, never have. I also do not support forced integration. never have.

You seem to have missed the operative meaning in both of those declarations I just made. I consistently object to the initiation of force and nonconsenual interactions amongst ANY AND ALL people regardless of race, gender preference etc.


You reject force sometimes, when you correctly are outraged by the killing / murder described in this thread. Although at other times you support the initiation of force against a potentially peaceful person when you support forced integration. Nobody that leaves other people alone should be forced to associate with anybody or be prevented from associating with anybody that wants to associate with them. Please be more consistent......baby steps
 

NoDrama

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Now if we can just get you to not support segregation...baby steps
How come you can't even properly interpret his debate on that one? Even though he has clearly laid it all out for you. He doesn't support segregation, he supports the government not having any say over your decision to segregate.
Its obvious that you support violence used against others so that they will act in ways which you approve of. You say you don't like people getting hurt, but you support it every step of the way and argue non stop for its continuance.
 

schuylaar

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I appreciate that you liked my post in this thread.

However, I do not support forced segregation, never have. I also do not support forced integration. never have.

You seem to have missed the operative meaning in both of those declarations I just made. I consistently object to the initiation of force and nonconsenual interactions amongst ANY AND ALL people regardless of race, gender preference etc.


You reject force sometimes, when you correctly are outraged by the killing / murder described in this thread. Although at other times you support the initiation of force against a potentially peaceful person when you support forced integration. Nobody that leaves other people alone should be forced to associate with anybody or be prevented from associating with anybody that wants to associate with them. Please be more consistent......baby steps
what is your definition of forced integration and forced segregation?
 

londonfog

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I appreciate that you liked my post in this thread.

However, I do not support forced segregation, never have. I also do not support forced integration. never have.

You seem to have missed the operative meaning in both of those declarations I just made. I consistently object to the initiation of force and nonconsenual interactions amongst ANY AND ALL people regardless of race, gender preference etc.


You reject force sometimes, when you correctly are outraged by the killing / murder described in this thread. Although at other times you support the initiation of force against a potentially peaceful person when you support forced integration. Nobody that leaves other people alone should be forced to associate with anybody or be prevented from associating with anybody that wants to associate with them. Please be more consistent......baby steps
saying you support the right for others to NOT serve others base on race, color, religion, or national origin is supporting segregation. What do you call it ???
 

Choo

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They don't need to be sued --- it was a terrible accident. A policy change and training to prevent these situations.

Having said that, I'm sure big bucks will be paid to lots of deserving lawyers.
Chokeholds were banned years ago. You can quibble about the details of the hold they had on poor Eric but, they should not have had the arm around his neck because that is too close to the banned choke hold. There were 87 complaints against the NYPD in 2014 for illegal use of the chokehold. The policy change was already there, NYPD cops seem to think it doesn't matter. There also is the problem of the NYPD cops clearly ignoring the pleas of a man in serious distress. The cops involved should be up for involuntary manslaughter at least. And all for a few cigarettes. This wouldn't even have happened if New York wasn't so larcenous that cigarettes cost $14.oo. They created the black market and now are killing people over cigarettes. PISSES ME OFF!!!!!!
 

Rob Roy

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what is your definition of forced integration and forced segregation?
The definition of initiated force against a person that isn't applying force to us does not change if we endorse or do not endorse integration and / or segregation.

So, again rationalizing that sometimes it is okay to apply force to somebody that isn't applying it to us is not striking the root problem, which is, the rationalization and activation of the initiated force in ANY instance.

As far as forced integration and segregation they are two sides of the same coin. Do you endorse making people integrate or making them segregate? Why?
 

Rob Roy

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saying you support the right for others to NOT serve others base on race, color, religion, or national origin is supporting segregation. What do you call it ???
Seriously, I think you should reread my post above where I challenge you to be consistent.

Rebut anything you like in that post, and I'll play along and answer if I can. I don't think you will do that though, because your ears would hurt too much from when I ring your cognitive dissonance bell.
 

Rob Roy

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Chokeholds were banned years ago. You can quibble about the details of the hold they had on poor Eric but, they should not have had the arm around his neck because that is too close to the banned choke hold. There were 87 complaints against the NYPD in 2014 for illegal use of the chokehold. The policy change was already there, NYPD cops seem to think it doesn't matter. There also is the problem of the NYPD cops clearly ignoring the pleas of a man in serious distress. The cops involved should be up for involuntary manslaughter at least. And all for a few cigarettes. This wouldn't even have happened if New York wasn't so larcenous that cigarettes cost $14.oo. They created the black market and now are killing people over cigarettes. PISSES ME OFF!!!!!!


When grand jury sheep investigate pigs, pigs almost always go free. When pigs investigate pigs in internal investigations of themselves, the odds for pigs are even higher.

The man was murdered in the street.
 

londonfog

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False conclusion, there are other possibilities.


D. none of the above.

Leave people alone if they leave you alone is the correct answer. Don't try to manage other people or their human relationships.
I suggest if you don't want to be messed with do not start a business open to the public dealing in interstate commerce.
 

Rob Roy

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Can you tell me why you would support someone who told me to get out their store just because of my color.

I don't support them or their action, but that is a secondary issue to the primary matter at hand. Peace cannot be maintained if you can dictate to others how they will behave on their OWN property or with their OWN body.

Dictating to others is not a defensive action, it is an offensive action, no matter how you slice it or run from it.

I, nor you have ANY right to tell ANYBODY how to run THEIR property though, Just as they have no right to tell us how to run OUR property.
 
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UncleBuck

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I don't support them or their action
yes you do!

you argue endlessly for their right to kick london out of their stores because of london's skin color!

that's directly supporting their racist actions. you even called the policy itself racist and said you support it.

yet somehow you want us to believe you are totally not racist, you only support racist policies.

go back to your teenage angst and ayn rand, dickface.
 

god1

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yes he does.

he supports relegalizing discrimination on the sole basis of skin color.

that's segregation. we literally saw it happen in this very country less than 50 years ago you dumb fuck.

Either you're just being really ornery or you're confused again. But no, he doesn't support segregation in the direct sense; even though the policy he's talking about could in a non-ideal world support the action.
 
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