There ain't do damn voter fraud

yes, your refusal to answer questions and propensity for redefining words into what they're not has left me utterly hurt.

Uh huh.

I've already answered all of the questions you keep asking. It's not my fault that you continually pretend like you forgot the answers. It's not like they aren't all right here.

Quote me my propensity for redefining words or it becomes lie number 6.

You are on a roll.
 
I dropped in on this thread on election night just to see what this toxic stew was saying. Against my better judgement, I posted here.... Something about the OPs video being idiotic and anybody who believed it being an idiot too. All that stands. You are idiots. But now I am going to make a cogent argument why.

Reason 1. Election judges. Despite the fact that the little whelp got some old people to say that all he had to do was sign the ballot APPLICATION and he could vote, it is not true. Once the little fuckhole in question signed the application, the judges would be required to compare it to a copy of the voters verified signature. Once it did not match, any election judge worth their salt would deny the voter a ballot. Election judges are commissioned by both (or more) parties.

But let's say that the election judge is a total idiot and too old to do their job. There are other election judges to oversee that they do their job correctly, some of them from other parties. I have served as an election judge and can say from experience that there are some lackluster judges every year - and yet the system still works. Not only because of the following checks and balances, but because the election judges take their oath (yes, a sworn oath) very seriously.

Reason 2. Poll watchers. Lots of other people are allowed in the polling place. One category is known as poll watchers. They represent political parties, candidates and political action groups of all types. At any point during the election, they are allowed to inspect all of the election materials. If they see an election judge issue a ballot on a questionable application, they will blow a whistle on it.

Reason 3. Polling officials. Every election day, every polling place is visited by several inspectors. Often they are lawyers working for the state's attorney, often they are LEO. They inspect the voting materials with special emphasis on signature comparisons. If they find a signature that is questionable. It will be investigated.

The process of voting is very local. Most of the election judges have been serving for many years. If somebody comes in to vote fraudulently, they would have a very hard time - because most of us know the voter in question. If there was any large scale attempt to subvert the vote, it would be tweaked immediately.

All this shit is public record and can be inspected after the election. If there was any systematic attempt to steal votes by voting for other people, it would become evident pretty quickly. But it doesn't. Know why? Because by-and-large, the American voting process is pretty damned secure.

The video is a piece of misleading shit. To hear its supporters spout off about "low information voters" is one of the most laughable things I have ever heard. Most of you suck.

Are their weaknesses, yes. I could tell you what they are because I am a game-theory mother fucker. But to attribute these weaknesses to malicious intent is folly.
 
Damn, wasn't that a long winded rant.

I don't know where served as an election judge but in California it doesn't work the way you described.
I've been voting here for many years and can tell you that there are no judges comparing signatures to registrations. You sign your name on a sheet of paper and they hand you a ballot, in minutes that ballot goes into a box.

So unless they unlock each box and compare them one at a time, which I know they don't, voter fraud would be pretty easy here.
 
I dropped in on this thread on election night just to see what this toxic stew was saying. Against my better judgement, I posted here.... Something about the OPs video being idiotic and anybody who believed it being an idiot too. All that stands. You are idiots. But now I am going to make a cogent argument why.

Reason 1. Election judges. Despite the fact that the little whelp got some old people to say that all he had to do was sign the ballot APPLICATION and he could vote, it is not true. Once the little fuckhole in question signed the application, the judges would be required to compare it to a copy of the voters verified signature. Once it did not match, any election judge worth their salt would deny the voter a ballot. Election judges are commissioned by both (or more) parties.

But let's say that the election judge is a total idiot and too old to do their job. There are other election judges to oversee that they do their job correctly, some of them from other parties. I have served as an election judge and can say from experience that there are some lackluster judges every year - and yet the system still works. Not only because of the following checks and balances, but because the election judges take their oath (yes, a sworn oath) very seriously.

Reason 2. Poll watchers. Lots of other people are allowed in the polling place. One category is known as poll watchers. They represent political parties, candidates and political action groups of all types. At any point during the election, they are allowed to inspect all of the election materials. If they see an election judge issue a ballot on a questionable application, they will blow a whistle on it.

Reason 3. Polling officials. Every election day, every polling place is visited by several inspectors. Often they are lawyers working for the state's attorney, often they are LEO. They inspect the voting materials with special emphasis on signature comparisons. If they find a signature that is questionable. It will be investigated.

The process of voting is very local. Most of the election judges have been serving for many years. If somebody comes in to vote fraudulently, they would have a very hard time - because most of us know the voter in question. If there was any large scale attempt to subvert the vote, it would be tweaked immediately.

All this shit is public record and can be inspected after the election. If there was any systematic attempt to steal votes by voting for other people, it would become evident pretty quickly. But it doesn't. Know why? Because by-and-large, the American voting process is pretty damned secure.

The video is a piece of misleading shit. To hear its supporters spout off about "low information voters" is one of the most laughable things I have ever heard. Most of you suck.

Are their weaknesses, yes. I could tell you what they are because I am a game-theory mother fucker. But to attribute these weaknesses to malicious intent is folly.

Speaking of public records:

http://www.minnesotamajority.org/the-case-for-elections-investigation-and-reform/
 
In other news someone made robo calls to election judges in Chicago telling them they had to vote a certain way to be a judge and take a class and some other stuff that wasn't true. Lots of them didn't show up to work causing long lines in heavily democratic areas. Probably the same republicans railing against voter fraud.

http://politics.suntimes.com/articl...-robocalls-election-judges/wed-11052014-843pm
I thought it was humorous that Judges could be so easily cajoled on something that is wholly a legal matter.
 
My daughter votes in Oregon's mail in ballot. She is 31 and has autism. Rachel has a problem signing her name the same way twice. Her ballot has been rejected 3 out of the last 5 years.
Voter fraud, the earth is 7,000 years old, Fox news is fair and balanced, Sarah Palin would have made a great VP, yeah it's all true and fodder for the weak minded shallow pond dwellers.
 
In other news someone made robo calls to election judges in Chicago telling them they had to vote a certain way to be a judge and take a class and some other stuff that wasn't true. Lots of them didn't show up to work causing long lines in heavily democratic areas. Probably the same republicans railing against voter fraud.

http://politics.suntimes.com/articl...-robocalls-election-judges/wed-11052014-843pm

Just to clarify, Chicago is a heavily Democratic area. It worked very smoothly back when I lived there. All the votes very extremely franchised. The precinct captains were out in 12 passenger vans chauffeuring voters to the polls and handing out crisp new five dollar bills as "prizes to entice them to vote".

Here is another nugget from your article:

County prosecutors are also probing Ald. Leslie Hairston (5th), who appears to have violated election law by offering prizes to constituents to entice them to vote. Daly said Alvarez's office also is investigating some other run-of-the-mill complaints but declined to offer specifics.


Not mentioned in the article is that Alderman Leslie Hairston is a Democrat. I wonder why that was not mentioned?
 
Just to clarify, Chicago is a heavily Democratic area. It worked very smoothly back when I lived there. All the votes very extremely franchised. The precinct captains were out in 12 passenger vans chauffeuring voters to the polls and handing out crisp new five dollar bills as "prizes to entice them to vote".

Here is another nugget from your article:
County prosecutors are also probing Ald. Leslie Hairston (5th), who appears to have violated election law by offering prizes to constituents to entice them to vote. Daly said Alvarez's office also is investigating some other run-of-the-mill complaints but declined to offer specifics.

Not mentioned in the article is that Alderman Leslie Hairston is a Democrat. I wonder why that was not mentioned?


The GOP rented more than 100 vehicles that were parked in a lot adjacent to a Bush campaign office. The party planned to drive poll watchers to polling places by 7 a.m. and deliver any voters who didn't have a ride.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-01-24-tires-slashed_x.htm
 
Did they hand out crisp, new five dollar bills too?

Even when trying to discredit Republicans, Democrats cannot resist being criminal. Can you find an article that doesn't demonstrate Democrats utter disdain for law? From your link:

LOL

The sons of a first-term congresswoman and Milwaukee's former acting mayor were among five Democratic activists charged Monday with slashing the tires of vans rented by Republicans to drive voters and monitors to the polls on Election Day.

Sowande Omokunde, son of Rep. Gwen Moore, D-Wis., and Michael Pratt, the son of former Milwaukee acting mayor Marvin Pratt, were among those charged with criminal damage to property, a felony that carries a maximum punishment of 3½ years in prison and a $10,000 fine.


The activists are accused of flattening the tires on 25 vehicles rented by the state Republican Party to get out the vote and deliver poll watchers Nov. 2.


Also charged were Lewis Caldwell and Lavelle Mohammad, both from Milwaukee, and Justin Howell of Racine.
 
And... The article was written in 2005. As Buck would say, "what do you have to gain by resurrecting this years old story?"

LOL again.

Rick Wiley, state GOP executive director, discovered the vandalism on the morning of Election Day.


"It was unbelievable that people could stoop this low in a political campaign," he said. "I figured it had to be someone from the opposition. But I didn't think someone on the paid (John) Kerry campaign would do this."
 
Chesus, I have to make one more comment.

You chose to link to a story that demonstrated Democratic attempts to suppress the votes of Republicans, and for which the son of a Democratic congress woman went to jail for his vandalism, in a thread ridiculing the notion that there is no voter fraud.

Seldom does a commenter make such a complete ass of himself on RIU. My compliments!

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-01-24-tires-slashed_x.htm
 
Chesus, I have to make one more comment.

You chose to link to a story that demonstrated Democratic attempts to suppress the votes of Republicans, and for which the son of a Democratic congress woman went to jail for his vandalism, in a thread ridiculing the notion that there is no voter fraud.

Seldom does a commenter make such a complete ass of himself on RIU. My compliments!

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-01-24-tires-slashed_x.htm
I link to a story that fucks up your narrative that Democrats were bussing people to the poles.
When the fact is
The Republicans are also
 
I link to a story that fucks up your narrative that Democrats were bussing people to the poles.
When the fact is
The Republicans are also

You linked to a story that showed Democrats acting like the fascists they are at heart.

For that, I thank you.
 
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