Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

AllenHaze said:
Bokashi buckets are okay. I use them to prepare scraps for my worms. The bokashi compost is broken down by the worms much faster than fresh scraps - I can harvest roughly 25 lbs of castings in about a month with my current setup.
Why do you prefer compost over WC? You can get the best of both worlds with vermicompost. :smile:
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I'm just more interested in compost specifically at the moment. They're both necessary for variety if I'm not mistaken.
 
bicit said:
I'm just more interested in compost specifically at the moment. They're both necessary for variety if I'm not mistaken.
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This is true but you're not going to get the same diversity with a specific recipe or single compost source. Generally the organisms present reflect the materials used. If you want variety then use compost from multiple sources. If I had to pick one or the other I'd pick vermicompost all day. Why are you curious about compost? What are you using it for? Likely for acids and microbes which will be superior in well made vermicompost. :smile:
 
AllenHaze said:
This is true but you're not going to get the same diversity with a specific recipe or single compost source. Generally the organisms present reflect the materials used. If you want variety then use compost from multiple sources. If I had to pick one or the other I'd pick vermicompost all day. Why are you curious about compost? What are you using it for? Likely for acids and microbes which will be superior in well made vermicompost. :smile:
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I'm not arguing either or, more tools in the tool box as they say. Rather looking for something that can be put together by someone of limited mobility, scavenging skills, or in an area sparse of common yard wastes like leaves or grass clippings and space for big piles. Yet doesn't want to buy weak premade compost and wants ANOTHER tool besides VC.

If that makes sense.
 
bicit said:
I'm just more interested in compost specifically at the moment. They're both necessary for variety if I'm not mistaken.
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Necessary, no, not imo. But I don't think it would hurt really. Personally I would want all my humic material to go through the worm bin if I can (thermal compost included). Only comes out better.

Do you have room for something like this?

http://www.amazon.com/Good-Ideas-CW...id=1414523347&sr=8-1&keywords=compost+tumbler

There are many versions like the above one. I believe the smaller you go, the more difficult it is going to be to get your materials up to temp. However, I am by no means an expert composter. ;)

Peace!
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Pattahabi said:
Necessary, no, not imo. But I don't think it would hurt really. Personally I would want all my humic material to go through the worm bin if I can (thermal compost included). Only comes out better.

Do you have room for something like this?

http://www.amazon.com/Good-Ideas-CW-2X-Compost-Dueling/dp/B0090I5AAI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1414523347&sr=8-1&keywords=compost tumbler

There are many versions like the above one. I believe the smaller you go, the more difficult it is going to be to get your materials up to temp. However, I am by no means an expert composter. ;)

Peace!
P-
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Haha yeah you suck Pattahabi!

But seriously, the pile Has to be at Least a Yard high and wide (a cubic yard), and 50:1 carbon:nitrogen ratio to Truly hot compost, wetting and letting sit four days turning every second day after that, will give you beautiful black mould/gold in 18 days.
 
bicit said:
I'm not arguing either or, more tools in the tool box as they say. Rather looking for something that can be put together by someone of limited mobility, scavenging skills, or in an area sparse of common yard wastes like leaves or grass clippings and space for big piles. Yet doesn't want to buy weak premade compost and wants ANOTHER tool besides VC.

If that makes sense.
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The best thing for anyone who doesn't have one is to "start a compost". It's what plants crave. Just gotta figure out how to wedge one into your lifestyle. It takes months to get up and running, but it's just what you need.

I deal with a crappy plastic bin.
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Food and plant scraps in the top (along with some basic organic plant foods), magic comes out the bottom. There really isn't anything better than that.

A small household so all vegetable and plant waste goes in the top. You don't need a lot of stuff. Gives you a reason to buy and eat more vegetables and fruit - because the waste is a bonus.

No plastic compost tub? Bodge something together from two old pallets, or treee limbs and and stuff. Or drill out a big plastic storage tub. Or buy a pair of those stupid compost tumblers.

You just need a couple of square feet of bare ground.

If you don't have the space think about your community - neighbourhood compost bins are a thing these days.
 
smokey the cat said:
The best thing for anyone who doesn't have one is to "start a compost". It's what plants crave. Just gotta figure out how to wedge one into your lifestyle. It takes months to get up and running, but it's just what you need.

I deal with a crappy plastic bin.

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Food and plant scraps in the top (along with some basic organic plant foods), magic comes out the bottom. There really isn't anything better than that.

A small household so all vegetable and plant waste goes in the top. You don't need a lot of stuff. Gives you a reason to buy and eat more vegetables and fruit - because the waste is a bonus.

No plastic compost tub? Bodge something together from two old pallets, or treee limbs and and stuff. Or drill out a big plastic storage tub. Or buy a pair of those stupid compost tumblers.

You just need a couple of square feet of bare ground.

If you don't have the space think about your community - neighbourhood compost bins are a thing these days.
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So you just use left over plant material from your garden and waste vegetable scraps? How is odor control with that? Nothing like alfalfa meal or rock dust or other special ingredients into the bin?

Thanks.

ETA: To be clear. I'm essentially looking for a list of ingredients that an individual could buy, mix together, and 'cook' to get good compost. A quick reference for a beginner, handicapped, or 'lazy' individual. I'm going through the threads and formulating my own idea, just wanted to see some other opinions. Looking for 'regular' methods because some people are put off by the idea of earthworms.
 
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Hey there again everybody, sorry for going slightly off topic again.. i wanted to ask, seeing as i have 3 different genetics in 3 pots and need to fill the 4th, would you say i try out another genetic in the 4th pot or not ? im leaning towards planting the bagseed thats doing so well though that sounds best to me but i dont know i love the variety aswell although i want wants safest cause i have The Church, Bagseed & a diesel type strain thats busy popping up, i just squeezed the stem of the Church & the stem of the bagseed & my word the smell already makes me cream, i cannot wait till these flower, i love the differences so much though although im not sure whats better. :weed::peace::weed:
 
I have a shirt that says don't panic it's organic, but I think it's from some T-shirt company called Money Does Grow on Trees. Kind of clever lol.

It is sad how much bad info is out there but like Mohican said some stuff in the video works it's just what he is doing is wrong. I mean when I first got into organics when I was figuring out tea recipes, I used straight FFOF. Once I got my teas down I could get into my soil and now do my ROLS of course, but I mean even to this day I bet a small base of my ROLS is still soil I reused from FFOF bags I use to buy back when.
 
AllDayToker said:
I have a shirt that says don't panic it's organic, but I think it's from some T-shirt company called Money Does Grow on Trees. Kind of clever lol.

It is sad how much bad info is out there but like Mohican said some stuff in the video works it's just what he is doing is wrong. I mean when I first got into organics when I was figuring out tea recipes, I used straight FFOF. Once I got my teas down I could get into my soil and now do my ROLS of course, but I mean even to this day I bet a small base of my ROLS is still soil I reused from FFOF bags I use to buy back when.
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hydroton doesn't hold water at all. In his other videos he says never add it to soil. Why buy an expensive bag of soil to add more peatmoss. Why not buy a bale of peatmoss. More fore less money.
 
hyroot said:
hydroton doesn't hold water at all. In his other videos he says never add it to soil. Why buy an expensive bag of soil to add more peatmoss. Why not buy a bale of peatmoss. More fore less money.
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Yeah Idk who the hell that guy is but seeing that video for his first video, I don't think I'd watch others lmao.
 
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