UncleBuck
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body count for jihad in america since 9/11 is 14. or 17.
body count for right wing religious racist wingnuts? 37.
whatever you say cupcake.
Should the US support Israel forever ?
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body count for right wing religious racist wingnuts? 37.
earnest_voice
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You're an idiot. If you can actually muster up some facts i'll respond in kind.
earnest_voice
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FUN FACT - Statistically you have a greater chance of being crushed to death by your own TV vs killed by a Muslim terrorist.
Conversely US domestic Police kill more civilians than Muslim terrorists in the US.
Harrekin
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Statistically Australia has a massive pedophilia problem.
earnest_voice
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Dr Kynes
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statistically, i suspect if the catholic church ever stops hiding the misdeeds of their priests, ireland would have a pretty big pederast problem too.
Harrekin
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Well within the church at least.
They used to recruit the people that were really fucked in the head, it was the only way to get people to sign up for "the life of the cloth" (ie. Raping kids).
ASMALLVOICE
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That about sums it up
Peace
Asmallvoice
Jimdamick
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If you call the attack on Gaza surgical, then there is a problem. Was it surgical to put the main power plant out of service for over a year? Was it surgical to target UN refugee SHELTERS, the same ones that the IDF directed the Palestinians to go to before destroying their homes and businesses. Was it surgical to shell the hospitals hit by canon fire? Yea, it probably was surgical, to destroy, kill, and mutilate as many Palestinians as possible. That's the way it looked to me, and fortunately, most of the world thinks the same way. You, my friend, should take off the blinders, and look at Gaza for what it truly is. The continued destruction of the Palestinian people, by a government bent on the destruction of the Palestinians, and to take every square inch of land they can, despite it being the true hindrance to peace. The BDS movement is going to take off in the EU, and is already shown to be bothersome to Israel. Good, they deserve it. I hope they won't be able to sell a tomato.
ChesusRice
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Israel cannot survive peace in their region
They still need more land, and would never grant full citizenship to the arabs in their borders.
Hamas is a terrorist organization funded by outside elements and are just pawn in a power struggle in the middle east
Israel as a country is fucking bad, and apartheid state. But unfortunatly you cannot talk about how bad they are without them either calling you an anti semite or pulling funding from your campaign.
All the money we give Israel comes back in the form of political donations
They still need more land, and would never grant full citizenship to the arabs in their borders.
Hamas is a terrorist organization funded by outside elements and are just pawn in a power struggle in the middle east
Israel as a country is fucking bad, and apartheid state. But unfortunatly you cannot talk about how bad they are without them either calling you an anti semite or pulling funding from your campaign.
All the money we give Israel comes back in the form of political donations
Dr Kynes
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arabs and moslems in israel ARE full citizens.
just not those in the OCCUPIED TERRITORIES (cuz they are not part of israel, duhhh!)
theres moslems and arabs in the knesset, theres moslems and arabs on the israeli supreme court, the deputy inspector general of the national police in israel is an arab druze, etc etc etc.
you are making yourself sound foolish.
earnest_voice
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Are you saying Arab Israelis enjoy the same privileges as their Jewish counterparts?
Padawanbater2
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Of course not, he's answering your opposition to oppression with a technicality, motherufucker loves semantics, except when it contradicts him
Harrekin
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Padawanbater2
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But "arabs are full citizens"!!!!Jew Only Roads...totally not apartheid.
Harrekin
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Jews were "full citizens" in Nazi Germany too, Black Africans were in Apartheid Era South Africa too.
Padawanbater2
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Kynes - "bbbut that's different!... somehow...!"
swaggersDlite
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its a horrible situation all the way around. i feel for both sides its horrible loosing women children men from both sides, god my heart goes out to these people. Fuck the rest of the shit!!!
Padawanbater2
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Probably the most right post in this entire thread..
I just read that and thought about it and you're totally right..
Obviously you think of the people of Iraq, the civilians, the Kurds and the people of Syria.. all put in a shitty situation made even shittier by the invasion, occupation, and evacuation by US forces.. a cavity, an empty pocket of power to be taken by the strongest arm.. ISIS.. we leave, they fill the void.. Pretty much an inevitability that every neocon was predicting.. Almost as shocking as Silver's predictions.. Any military analyst could tell you the same thing..
Now here we are.. A journalist gets executed, and likely another innocent one soon enough.. Horrible shit, nobody would disagree with that. But do 2 people warrant another indefinite war in the middle east, fighting an invisible enemy at an unsustainable cost? The potential cost of our country? Is another war worth it? More than $2 billion a month.. worth it? +4,000 soldiers, worth it? .. ask yourself those questions..
Is it worth it to go to war with an enemy thousands of miles away who have no legitimate chance of attacking American soil to bankrupt our country and jeopardize even further the future of American citizens? Is it, really, because a few war mongers in media and politics say so?
Think about it..