Should the US support Israel forever ?

Should the US support Israel, no matter what?


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Padawanbater2

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Really? I can't think of even one of his counterparts that would agree with that bullshit.
Because you don't accept reality. You retards had life given to you on a silver platter, you squandered it and left me (millennials) to foot the bill. Forgive me for not submitting to your slavery. You can rightly, go fuck yourself.

Holy shit, you are one deluded halfwit. You poor bastards just don't understand how fucking stupid you appear when you square off against Kynes.
Kynes thinks he's some super intellectual fighting for the right, when the right is preschoolers fighting for a seat at the adult table. Your worship of his retarded bullshit simply reveals your character. He's a simpleton, bent on elite regulation, republican doctrine that won't get the GOP elected ever again. He's a behind in the times, he's a FOX "NEWS" lackey.. Go ahead and wager your bets on 80+...LMFAO! You idiots will be dead in 2 years anyway.. Not like you matter! AHAHHAA!
 

Johnnyorganic

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Israel is a Jewish state with the right to return for all Jews, I just want the same EQUAL treatment for Palestinians. But they don't have that because Israel is an apartheid state that herds Palestinians into ghettos. The West Bank and Gaza strip are being devoured by Israel in the hope that the Palestinians will be forced off their land.

There are Palestinians within Israel, yet Israel is defined as a Jewish state. Would it be morally wrong for America to define itself as a white or Christian state? Why the double standard? What if America allowed a right to return for only white people?

What if America passed laws to protect the "white character" of the country like Israel does to protect its Jewish character?

Israel is a racist apartheid state. No wonder Kynes defends it.
Wow! Propaganda really does work.

Repeat a lie often enough...

All too often the Palestinian cause is nothing but a beard for anti-Semites.

Does your righteous indignation extend to other Nations? Or it it limited to the U.S. and Israel?

Saudi Arabia will not grant visas to Jews from Israel. How about them apples?
http://americanbedu.com/2008/09/03/are-jews-allowed-in-the-kingdom/
 

abandonconflict

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you clearly and repeatedly insisted they were "Volunteers", which makes slavery and serfdom "Mandatory Volunteerism" (the latest leftist buzzword) in your view.

you cant backpedal away from your claims, you made them, you repeated them, you reinforced them, and then doubled down, shortly before going All In.

any attempt to back away from this now will prove you are a fair weather marxist, and a poltroon.

what is most hilarious, you claim employment = slavery, but on the subject of ACTUAL slavery, you consider it "Voluntary"
No, you're just having trouble with the fact that you're a serf.

Serfs are not chattel, by definition. I never used the term volunteerism.
 
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earnest_voice

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Wow! Propaganda really does work.

Repeat a lie often enough...

All too often the Palestinian cause is nothing but a beard for anti-Semites.

Does your righteous indignation extend to other Nations? Or it it limited to the U.S. and Israel?

Saudi Arabia will not grant visas to Jews from Israel. How about them apples?
http://americanbedu.com/2008/09/03/are-jews-allowed-in-the-kingdom/
Saudi Arabia runs on terrorism, corruption and petrodollars. This is expected from a REAL axis of evil.

Israel claims to be a democracy, the only western one in the near east.

But please continue repeating your lies...
 

MuyLocoNC

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Because you don't accept reality. You retards had life given to you on a silver platter, you squandered it and left me (millennials) to foot the bill. Forgive me for not submitting to your slavery. You can rightly, go fuck yourself.



Kynes thinks he's some super intellectual fighting for the right, when the right is preschoolers fighting for a seat at the adult table. Your worship of his retarded bullshit simply reveals your character. He's a simpleton, bent on elite regulation, republican doctrine that won't get the GOP elected ever again. He's a behind in the times, he's a FOX "NEWS" lackey.. Go ahead and wager your bets on 80+...LMFAO! You idiots will be dead in 2 years anyway.. Not like you matter! AHAHHAA!
You can thank the Progressive for "squandering" it, you know...your guys.

I don't worship anything, but any idiot can see he runs circles around you dolts on a regular basis.

More flaccid platitudes to make yourself feel superior. Dems say the same shit every time they get the White House. No Republican will ever win again...riiiight. Oh look, a lib throwing Fox News in for the hallucinatory win.

In two years I'll be alive and well, making bank, hoarding even more precious metal and laughing at gullible fucksticks like you, that really don't matter.
 

UncleBuck

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You can thank the Progressive for "squandering" it, you know...your guys.
like reagan and bush and bush? because those were the guys who exploded the deficit.

progressives like clinton and obama are the one reducing or eliminating the deficit that you guys keep creating.

54-40.

I don't worship anything, but any idiot can see he runs circles around you dolts on a regular basis.
i see him doing his whole white nationalism thing and you cheering for him like a barking seal, but that does not equate to anything else but two idiots being idiots.

54-40.

gullible fucksticks like you, that really don't matter.
54-40, and yet you call us gullible fucksticks.

oversampling.

the irony is overwhelming.
 

Padawanbater2

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Because they use psychological warfare in conjunction with traditional incendiary devices.
To the next targ
et in their Jenga puzzle of concrete boxes.
Murdering innocent civilians is unacceptable. It boggles the mind how anyone on either side can view civilian casualties as acceptable casualties. If Israel sent indiscriminate missiles into Gaza, just like Hamas does into Israel, intentionally targeting civilians, I would condemn it. So would you. Why is it OK for Israel to launch airstrikes into Gaza on known UN refugee camps, housing ONLY civilians, causing more civilian casualties?

No source? Here you go;

http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/IDF-investigating-strike-on-UN-school-that-killed-10-369867
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/middle-east-unrest/strikes-near-gazas-shifa-hospital-refugee-camp-kill-least-10-n166571
http://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-deadly-fire-on-un-school-a-response-to-mortar-attack/
http://mashable.com/2014/07/30/un-school-gaza/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/israel-presses-attack-16-killed-at-un-school/2014/07/30/4a643588-17a5-11e4-85b6-c1451e622637_story.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/30/us-mideast-gaza-idUSKBN0FV04A20140730
http://rt.com/news/176576-gaza-un-school-strike/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/07/30/gaza-fighting-rages-on/13349387/
 

Harrekin

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Your definition of debate must be uproariously different from mine.

Obviously, you didn't want a debate. Trying to insult someone who disagrees with you, by way of pedantic name-calling, is not debate.

It is capitulation.

Which means that I did not need to declare victory.

You declared defeat the very moment you revealed that all you had was silly insults.


Hamas does not recognize Israel's right to exist.

What option does Israel have?

Open borders and seas against a hostile territory ruled by an authority that does not recognize their right to exist?

Sit idly by while Hamas shoots rockets into their borders?

You apparently believe that the state of Israel, simply by existing, is solely responsible for all this.

Yet, I have seen nothing of you complaining about how other nations treat their Palestinians.

Egypt's border with Gaza is under blockade, too.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/30/egypt-siding-israel-cost-gaza-dear

In Jordan, Palestinian refugees from Gaza, half a million of them, are refused Jordanian citizenship.
http://www.fmreview.org/FMRpdfs/FMR26/FMR2607.pdf

Palestinian refugees were recently deported from Jordan back into war-torn Syria from which they had fled. Syrian-born Palestinian refugees are routinely denied entry.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/08/jordan-deports-palestinians-fleeing-syria-war-20148710735703862.html

Where is your weeping and gnashing of teeth for those Palestinians?
If they had a state you could legitimately declare war on them, hold their leaders accountable, etc.

Currently, Hamas only has so many supporters because of Israeli occupation.
 

ChesusRice

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Israel is a Jewish state with the right to return for all Jews, I just want the same EQUAL treatment for Palestinians. But they don't have that because Israel is an apartheid state that herds Palestinians into ghettos. The West Bank and Gaza strip are being devoured by Israel in the hope that the Palestinians will be forced off their land.

There are Palestinians within Israel, yet Israel is defined as a Jewish state. Would it be morally wrong for America to define itself as a white or Christian state? Why the double standard? What if America allowed a right to return for only white people?

What if America passed laws to protect the "white character" of the country like Israel does to protect its Jewish character?

Israel is a racist apartheid state. No wonder Kynes defends it.
What he said with the caveat that the palestinians are stupid crazy fuckers as well.
There was a peaceful solution arrived at years ago. But then the Israelis killed their own prime minister Rabin.
Becuase there is one ultimate truth.

There is not enough room for both the Palestinians and the Israelis.So conflict is in the Israelis best interest as they gobble up more land. Palestinians will never be allowed full citizenship as the israelis fear being demographically out voted
 

Johnnyorganic

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johnny, don't make me dredge up your quotes about islam.
Do I really need to remind you that Islam is not a race?

I stand by every comment I have ever made about Islam, unless it was something complementary.

Islam is an authoritarian movement masquerading as a religion. A worldwide Manson Family as far as I am concerned.

So yeah, I have nothing but contempt for Islam. They earned it.

Please note that I do recognize Islam's right to exist as a (so-called) religion.

Having said all that, dredge away; providing you can find any statements which are racist in nature pertaining to the Palestinian people.
 

Johnnyorganic

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And speaking of racism. I think what really bothers me most of all about this is who you Pro-Palestinian supporters are siding with: Fucking Hamas.

Hamas. Which does not recognize Israel's right to exist.

MidwesternGro made a point yesterday that got me thinking.

He/she was complaining about the Right to Return. If all Jews are allowed to return to the Jewish homeland, then Israel represents all Jews.

By extension; Hamas, by refusing Israel's right to exist is essentially refusing worldwide Jewry's right to exist.

An entire ethnic group.

Now that is just plain evil, boys and girls. The real Magilla.

And that is the pony you people are betting on.
 
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Johnnyorganic

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Saudi Arabia runs on terrorism, corruption and petrodollars. This is expected from a REAL axis of evil.

Israel claims to be a democracy, the only western one in the near east.

But please continue repeating your lies...
Someone whose chosen avatar is a television character just called me a liar.

No evidence to back up his or her claim, mind you.

But he or she did. He/she called me a liar.

I'm heartbroken.

Really.

I'm fucking inconsolable.
 

UncleBuck

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Do I really need to remind you that Islam is not a race?

I stand by every comment I have ever made about Islam, unless it was something complementary.

Islam is an authoritarian movement masquerading as a religion. A worldwide Manson Family as far as I am concerned.

So yeah, I have nothing but contempt for Islam. They earned it.

Please note that I do recognize Islam's right to exist as a (so-called) religion.

Having said all that, dredge away; providing you can find any statements which are racist in nature pertaining to the Palestinian people.
well, as long as it is only as far as you're concerned.

and the palestinians, being muslims, bear the grunt of all the nasty remarks you have made about muslims.

still wondering if you've ever actually met a muslim though.
 

Johnnyorganic

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The IDF has been staffed with terrorists since its inception (Irgun & Stern Gang). Palestinians have no where to go and those who do flee end up being shot at by Israeli soldiers.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/claims-israeli-soldiers-shot-fleeing-civilians-20140807-101ahr.html

Read it.

I do have sympathy for those people, but they really should have listened to the IDF's warning and GTFO before the first roof knocking; rather than listen to Hamas who encourages those people to stay put.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/how-will-gazans-ultimately-judge-hamass-victory/

You folks should really be mad at Hamas if you are so gunched up about the collateral damage.

And that graphic is misleading to say the least.

It gives the impression that the IDF is dropping WMDs, thus making entire swaths of Gaza uninhabitable; rather than the surgical strikes that they actually are.
 

Johnnyorganic

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well, as long as it is only as far as you're concerned.
That's right. I don't speak for anyone but myself.

and the palestinians, being muslims, bear the grunt of all the nasty remarks you have made about muslims.
Bullshit.

I have no problems with Arabs, Palestinian or otherwise.

I have a big problem with a 'religion' that tolerates slavery, misogyny, and deadly homophobia. And is intolerant of dissent, other religions, dogs; and a whole hatfull of other things.

still wondering if you've ever actually met a muslim though.
Likewise.
 

UncleBuck

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I have a big problem with a 'religion' that tolerates slavery, misogyny, and deadly homophobia. And is intolerant of dissent, other religions, dogs; and a whole hatfull of other things.
you just described extremists of all religions, but for some reason you limit the blathering to muslims only.

what the fuck do they put in the water in texas?


Likewise.
several.

surprisingly, no one was beheaded when we got stoned together. one is probably a judge or lawyer by now.
 

Johnnyorganic

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you just described extremists of all religions, but for some reason you limit the blathering to muslims only.

what the fuck do they put in the water in texas?
Other religions have extremists, and I'll readily admit they exist. But they don't hold a candle to Muslim extremists.

In fact, other religious extremists are pussycats compared to those barbarians.

It wasn't Presbyterians hijacking those jets on 9/11.

several.

surprisingly, no one was beheaded when we got stoned together. one is probably a judge or lawyer by now.
That's because wherever it was you knew them, Muslims had not reached critical mass at that time and place.

They are real friendly....

Up until the time they reach critical mass.
 
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earnest_voice

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Someone whose chosen avatar is a television character just called me a liar.

No evidence to back up his or her claim, mind you.

But he or she did. He/she called me a liar.

I'm heartbroken.

Really.

I'm fucking inconsolable.
You are a liar and a dumbass and no i don't have to back up a FACT that is considered common knowledge.

Oh and Judaism isn't a race either...
 
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