punish the doctor more than the rapist

MuyLocoNC

Well-Known Member
anyone else behind this plan?

the plan is that when a woman gets pregnant from rape, we punish the doctor more than the rapist.

the guy running for senate in my state is all for it, how about you guys?

#GOPisgrand

#dontsayrape
Who gives a fuck what the meatheads in Colorado do about anything? Sounds like a "local" problem. Does anyone who lives outside Colorado give a shit what goes on there, how about you guys?
 

UncleBuck

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Who gives a fuck what the meatheads in Colorado do about anything? Sounds like a "local" problem. Does anyone who lives outside Colorado give a shit what goes on there, how about you guys?
it seems to matter a great deal to the koch brothers, they have poured millions and millions of dollars into cory gardner's campaign.

dumbass.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
so you couldnt offer up this dubious "evidence" in your OP?
i just linked to the bill cory gardner sponsored trying to make abortion services to women who were raped a class 3 felony, a worse felony than the class 4 felony that the rapist himself would be charged with.

fucking moron.

only the mildest "rape" charges are class 4 felonies, like a 17 year old broad who is willingly sleeping with her 20 year old boyfriend despite her parent's disapproval.
100% completely backwards.

statutory is less than a class 4 felony, it is actually a class 1 misdemeanor.

you fucking stooge.

the only forms of rape that are worse than a class 4 felony are when the rapist causes serious bodily injury or brings a deadly weapon to do his raping.

otherwise, rape is a class 4 felony, which is less severe than the class 3 felony that cory gardner proposes doctors be charged with if they abort the rape baby any time after the moment of fertilization.

you fucking clown.

no need to lie endlessly, i have posted the sources and your lies are easily debunked by reading the sources.
 

MuyLocoNC

Well-Known Member
it seems to matter a great deal to the koch brothers, they have poured millions and millions of dollars into cory gardner's campaign.

dumbass.
Oh, well fuck me. Two other guys no one gives a shit about (except liberal douchebags) are legally giving money to some other guy none of is give a shit about, to get elected in a state none of us give a shit about. That changes everything. Now I'm totally concerned about what happens in Colorado politics.

dumbass.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Oh, well fuck me. Two other guys no one gives a shit about (except liberal douchebags) are legally giving money to some other guy none of is give a shit about, to get elected in a state none of us give a shit about. That changes everything. Now I'm totally concerned about what happens in Colorado politics.

dumbass.
if no one gives a fuck about the koch brothers, then why do candidates from all over toe their line and court them for their millions of dollars?

dumbass.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
it seems to matter a great deal to the koch brothers, they have poured millions and millions of dollars into cory gardner's campaign.

dumbass.
wow. that was out of left field.

is there anything that the koch brothers arent involved in?

if you had any substantive evidence of Koch Brothers complicity in this nefarious scheme to abridge the rights of women to have free abortions on demand, you would have provided it.

i can only assume you are once again lying.
 

burgertime2010

Well-Known Member
abortion has been forbidden by EVERY advanced society since time immemorial.
except ours, and only since the 70's.

the original hippocratic oath, the oath of the hindu physician, the ancient chinese and japanese physician's codes, the code of persian physicians, etc etc etc all specifically forbade abortion.

you lefties act like this is something new and puzzling.

you keep dragging the subject back to RRRRape, like thats the only way unwanted pregnancies occur.

you of all people should not be arguing for the New Eugenics, since you would be one of those "wastes of resources" you propose to eliminate.

under Sanger's plan you would be forcibly sterilized, to ensure your "Bad Genes" dont get passed on.
Sanger had a huge Lady Boner for people with mental disorders, especially epilepsy.
give the eugenics argument a rest....Sanger was a long time ago and she was nuts. I am pro abortion, pro suicide, pro drugs, pro dr. assisted suicide.....this is not a right I force people into, it has no genetic element, It is a choice to remove a speck of goo from the uterus.Your New Eugenics is not part of anything I have said....you are trying to make it seem as though sterilization is part of this. Sangers plan applies to arcane and obsolete values. Abortions can be a sensible and responsible choice, why should they be considered unethical? You have to believe humans are special, that life begins at conception, and that lefties support this eugenic plan.By calling me a waste of resources you would have to know me and what I canm
do and have done
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
wow. that was out of left field.

is there anything that the koch brothers arent involved in?

if you had any substantive evidence of Koch Brothers complicity in this nefarious scheme to abridge the rights of women to have free abortions on demand, you would have provided it.

i can only assume you are once again lying.
are you denying that the koch brothers are funding cory gardner's campaign? because that would be pretty idiotic, even for someone like you.

and no one is talking about abortions on demand, we are talking about victims of rape whose doctors would be punished more severely than the rapist for aborting a rape baby at any time after the moment of fertilization.

that is the cory gardner view on the issue which the koch brothers are more than happy to fund.

go cry some more, ya fucking clown.
 

SmokeyDan

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then why did you include them as "victims" of false rape charges along with Dominique Strauss Khan (also a Real Rapist) the duke lacrosse team and Kobei Bryant (not Rapists)
Look, I was busy and had a thought in my head and didn't fully express it very well.

I reread it and acknowledge it looks kind of dumb as expressed.

Tyson, for instance was sentenced to jail. But he did not serve much time as rapists go and plenty believe he is innocent.

Why do they think he is innocent, because he is famous and many famous men have had that alleged against them.

Clinton is also probably guilty.

The French guy might be.

Kobe very likely wasn't.

And the woman who claimed duke later admitted she made it up.

Sorry for the confusion.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
i just linked to the bill cory gardner sponsored trying to make abortion services to women who were raped a class 3 felony, a worse felony than the class 4 felony that the rapist himself would be charged with.

fucking moron.
Point 1 : WHY did you not include this dubious bullshit "evidence" in your OP?
thats what i said, and your response is " duhh.. lookee! i posted my dubious evidence right here!" which does NOT answer the question WHY did you fail to include it in your OP?
(the answer is obvious, it does not support your wild claim)

100% completely backwards.

statutory is less than a class 4 felony, it is actually a class 1 misdemeanor.

you fucking stooge.

the only forms of rape that are worse than a class 4 felony are when the rapist causes serious bodily injury or brings a deadly weapon to do his raping.

otherwise, rape is a class 4 felony, which is less severe than the class 3 felony that cory gardner proposes doctors be charged with if they abort the rape baby any time after the moment of fertilization.

you fucking clown.

no need to lie endlessly, i have posted the sources and your lies are easily debunked by reading the sources.

Point 2: you clearly didnt read the statute you yourself posted.

the class 4 felony IS statutory rape, (a legal catchall for "sexual assault where the "victim" is not a complainant, but "rape" still occurred based solely on the statute)

every aggravating factor, including bodily injury, weapons, more than 1 perp, perp is more than X years older than a victim under Y years of age, use of drugs, coercion, etc etc etc bump that shit up all the way to Class 1 Felony status.


you once again prove you are a moron, and your reading compensation is, as usual, pathetic.

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Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
are you denying that the koch brothers are funding cory gardner's campaign? because that would be pretty idiotic, even for someone like you.

and no one is talking about abortions on demand, we are talking about victims of rape whose doctors would be punished more severely than the rapist for aborting a rape baby at any time after the moment of fertilization.

that is the cory gardner view on the issue which the koch brothers are more than happy to fund.

go cry some more, ya fucking clown.
again i say, IF you had some substantive evidence of the Koch Brothers involvement in this scheme, you would have bored us all to tears with it by now.

you havent, so i must conclude that, as usual, this is just another baseless claim.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
give the eugenics argument a rest....Sanger was a long time ago and she was nuts. I am pro abortion, pro suicide, pro drugs, pro dr. assisted suicide.....this is not a right I force people into, it has no genetic element, It is a choice to remove a speck of goo from the uterus.Your New Eugenics is not part of anything I have said....you are trying to make it seem as though sterilization is part of this. Sangers plan applies to arcane and obsolete values. Abortions can be a sensible and responsible choice, why should they be considered unethical? You have to believe humans are special, that life begins at conception, and that lefties support this eugenic plan.By calling me a waste of resources you would have to know me and what I canm
do and have done
as you have already asserted (at length), you suffer from epilepsy, whioch was a particular target of Mrs Sanger's wrath.

she WAS a racist, she WAS a eugenicist, she DID help push through sterilization programs for "defectives" (specifically including epileptics, like yourself) and DID dream up a scheme to exterminate the coloured races in america by "birth controlling" them out of existence.

planned parenthood and the entire abortion argument are th3e fruit of the poison tree, nothing about it is wholesome, nothing about it is anything short of evil.

if you hitch your wagon to a stone, dont be surprised if you go nowhere fast.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Point 1 : WHY did you not include this dubious bullshit "evidence" in your OP?
i thought i'd let you and the other idiots run around going "NUH UH! BULLSHIT!" for a while.

it worked as planned.

Point 2: you clearly didnt read the statute you yourself posted.

the class 4 felony IS statutory rape, (a legal catchall for "sexual assault where the "victim" is not a complainant, but "rape" still occurred based solely on the statute)
you fucking idiot.

(2) Sexual assault is a class 4 felony, except as provided in subsections (3), (3.5), (4), and
(5) of this section.
(3) If committed under the circumstances of paragraph (e) of subsection (1) of this
section, sexual assault is a class 1 misdemeanor and is an extraordinary risk crime that is
subject to the modified sentencing range specified in section 18-1.3-501 (3).

(e) At the time of the commission of the act, the victim is at least fifteen years of age
but less than seventeen years of age and the actor is at least ten years older than the
victim and is not the spouse of the victim;


statutory is a class 1 misdemeanor (section e).

rape is a class 4 felony. that goes for regular non-physically coerced rape (section a), fucking retards or otherwise unfit to consent people (section b), tricking the girl into thinking you're their hubby (section c), fucking someone under age 15 and being 4 years older than them (section d), fucking your patient/perp (sections f and g), or fucking a blacked out drunk chick (section h).

rape is a class 3 felony if you force yourself violently on the victim (section a), you threaten death or kidnapping on your victim or loved ones (section b), you promise future retaliation or kidnapping (section c) or you roofy the victim first (section d).

rape is class 2 if it's gang rape, you beat up your victim while raping her, or you have a deadly weapon there to make sure the rape goes right.

read the fucking law you goddamn lying stooge.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
again i say, IF you had some substantive evidence of the Koch Brothers involvement in this scheme, you would have bored us all to tears with it by now.

you havent, so i must conclude that, as usual, this is just another baseless claim.
again i ask, are you denying that the koch brothers are funding cory gardner?

yes or no.
 

MuyLocoNC

Well-Known Member
I saw your worn out and pathetic trap immediately. The problem with it is no one on this forum living outside Colorado gives a shit. The Koch brothers give millions to Republicans all over the country and I doubt they even know all of the positions the candidates hold, big deal. Their money, they can do whatever the fuck they want with it.

I understand you live there now, but no one else on here cares, AT ALL. Your narcissism is running strong tonight.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
I saw your worn out and pathetic trap immediately. The problem with it is no one on this forum living outside Colorado gives a shit. The Koch brothers give millions to Republicans all over the country and I doubt they even know all of the positions the candidates hold, big deal. Their money, they can do whatever the fuck they want with it.

I understand you live there now, but no one else on here cares, AT ALL. Your narcissism is running strong tonight.
if no one cares, then why are kynes (from califoria) and you (from some god awful dump in the south) both typing out messages to me about this?

:lol:
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
i thought i'd let you and the other idiots run around going "NUH UH! BULLSHIT!" for a while.

it worked as planned.



you fucking idiot.

(2) Sexual assault is a class 4 felony, except as provided in subsections (3), (3.5), (4), and
(5) of this section.
(3) If committed under the circumstances of paragraph (e) of subsection (1) of this
section, sexual assault is a class 1 misdemeanor and is an extraordinary risk crime that is
subject to the modified sentencing range specified in section 18-1.3-501 (3).

(e) At the time of the commission of the act, the victim is at least fifteen years of age
but less than seventeen years of age and the actor is at least ten years older than the
victim and is not the spouse of the victim;


statutory is a class 1 misdemeanor (section e).

rape is a class 4 felony. that goes for regular non-physically coerced rape (section a), fucking retards or otherwise unfit to consent people (section b), tricking the girl into thinking you're their hubby (section c), fucking someone under age 15 and being 4 years older than them (section d), fucking your patient/perp (sections f and g), or fucking a blacked out drunk chick (section h).

rape is a class 3 felony if you force yourself violently on the victim (section a), you threaten death or kidnapping on your victim or loved ones (section b), you promise future retaliation or kidnapping (section c) or you roofy the victim first (section d).

rape is class 2 if it's gang rape, you beat up your victim while raping her, or you have a deadly weapon there to make sure the rape goes right.

read the fucking law you goddamn lying stooge.
funny how i already read the statute, and your claim is UNPROVED.

your imaginative re-interpretation of the statute notwithstanding, ACTUAL RAPE is not a class 4 felony, any coercion, even without a weapon bangs it up to class 3. it is only class 4 if it is Statutory in nature (no complainant) and can only be a misdemeanor under extreme circumstances such as: the "victim" insists it was consensual, even if it was outside the law (unless the victim's participation was consensual, AND he/she was significantly underage, AND the perp was considerably older)

two horny sixteen year olds banging in the back of the buick are NOT engaged in rape, but a 16 year old and a 30 year old knockin boots in the back of the chevrolet could be "rape", but most likely it will only be "statutory", meanwhile a 30 year old perv banging a 12 year old is ALWAYS rape, even if the victim refuses to assist the prosecution, and rightly so.
 

MuyLocoNC

Well-Known Member
if no one cares, then why are kynes (from califoria) and you (from some god awful dump in the south) both typing out messages to me about this?

:lol:
Consistently telling you no one cares, doesn't support a conclusion that I care. It only supports the conclusion I like telling you no one cares.

You're kinda needy tonight.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
ACTUAL RAPE is not a class 4 felony.
not what the law says you fucking clown. i already outlined every section of the law. it's written in pretty plain english.

but of course, look who i am talking to. the MASTER of redefining words so that he never has to deal with the crushing pain of being wrong, which he most usually is.
 

MidwesternGro

Well-Known Member
They are only libertarians when it comes to white man's rights. Fuck all those rape victims and their war on men.

No wonder the libertarian movement is overwhelmingly white, male and single.

mmmmmmmhmmmmmmmmm.

http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2007a/csl.nsf/billcontainers/622131162885211887257251007C5714/$FILE/143_01.pdf

looks like senate candidate cory gardner sponsored this one, says so right on top.

looks like providing an abortion is a class 3 felony, even in cases of rape and incest, from the moment of fertilization.

how about penalties for the rapist?

http://www.justdetention.org/pdf/legalresources/Colorado 18-3-402.pdf

looks like that's only a class 4 felony (not as bad as a class 3 felony).

looks like the rapist gets off lighter than the doctor, provided the rapist doesn't do his raping with a deadly weapon and doesn't inflict "serious bodily injury" on his victim.

mmmmmmmhmmmmmmmmmm.

it's a good thing that extremists like this have extremists like kkkynes and smokkkey dan and desert david dukkke to defend them.

you guys still want to defend this nonsense?
 
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