Unconventional Organics

Abiqua

Abiqua

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This is my container I am currently using. Which is 2.5 gallons I think.

I stuff it solid to about 3/4's and add water about 2 inches above this. Usually about 1-1.25 gallons.
Then I airlock it and when the airlock slows it movement and fermentation slows down, I usually bottle it and keep it cool and in the dark.

Here I am starting a new round, with fresh Nettle, American Vetch [upper right], Purple Peavine [lower left] and Hounds-tongue [lower right] HT is in the borage family and very closed related to comfrey. In the Half Gallon mason is some 6 month old Nettle/Horsetail rot, that I am using to charge the New Mix.

It took me a few years to identify all this stuff, but all weedy out in the clearcuts near me. I pick it for free.


Nice fungal mass developed during the "retting" process...I let it sit and rot before I stuff it in the jug sometimes. [Hounds-tongue]




Here is the brewer's trap, just a one way valve. You can use a tube and water in an S shape for DIY.
[P.s. normally, I have the trap vertical.......not perpendicular to the container, however, I lost a big cork, so this will have to do for now!]


More to follow, just wanted to get this up :peace:
 

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DANKSWAG

DANKSWAG

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Abiqua said:
Also started a batch of compost tea, but I added some DIY nettle powder and 1 tsp of dia barley malt too.. going to use my strips for an informal comparison to the ferment. :peace:

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How did that work out. When you let your nettle and horsetail sit is it in a dark cool place too?
Right now I have a 5 gallon bucket full of dandelions in water for about two weeks it doesn't smell yet but it is breaking down.
Do I dilute with rain water and water my soil?

DankSwag
 
Abiqua

Abiqua

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DANKSWAG said:
How did that work out. When you let your nettle and horsetail sit is it in a dark cool place too?
Right now I have a 5 gallon bucket full of dandelions in water for about two weeks it doesn't smell yet but it is breaking down.
Do I dilute with rain water and water my soil?

DankSwag
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sorry for being so late, my uncle had a heart attack and passed away 3-4 days ago, been caught up......

I actually used the compost tea for my outdoor veggie garden, because of the poor droop I have been noticing............Tea is in cool place, just had the flash go ing next to a light [inspecting the foam!]....one thing I noticed was it produced a lot of heat, after the foam died down. I bubbled about 36 hours. Not crazy heat, but inside is 75 or so and outside was mildly cooler 65F, but the tea container was pleasantly warm, haven't experienced that before. [Sadly I didn't hit it with the thermometer for reference, rookie mistake :)]


As far as the dandelions, when I started out I always used girls that weren't doing well as test cases....don't know if that is a helpful suggestion, but i never lost one this way...

And as far as dilution, I used to say start with 500:1 or 100:1 [think that may have been a 'Coot tip] .....Now I usually start at 50:1 for new batches , but I think mainly that 15:1 has a been a sweet spot, just in my experience. I leave clones in straight solution for :30mins or so, they always like it seems.... :peace:
 
Abiqua

Abiqua

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Had some other info to pass, will be along shortly....

until then,here is a little screen shot from Oregon Biodynamic from the Accumulator page ::http://www.oregonbd.org/Class/accum.htm

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Excellent choice on the dandelions....I think I have a batch that has sat for 2 years and looks none worse for the wear...have to do some kind of analysis [If it didn't get dumped]............ also like to use Marigolds flower too, the edible kind forgot the name right this moment :peace:
 
keysareme

keysareme

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I decided to start peeing in my garden water every day. So far plants love it, and I know what I'm eating/drinking so I caught myself wasting valuable organic fertilizer and I stopped mid stream and went out back to the 5 gallon bucket I keep full of feed water.
 
keysareme

keysareme

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How about growing in straight pure compost/vermicompost/ewc?

I put one seedling into a mix of 50/50 organic soil/ewc.

But how about growing some plants in pure vermicompost? Like, you go into your worm bin or composter, and collect say enough to fill a small start container or red cup? and, see how the plant grows? Sounds worth the try to me?
 
keysareme

keysareme

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Will have results in a few days, I did a feed of Organic Coconut Sugar Water.

Both to a girl in her last week of flower swelling, and to four cuttings that are two weeks into flowering.

I used a lot of sugar. It was a lot. I started with 1tblsp per gallon, but soon upped it. So, let's see what happens... :clap:

Edit,
while I am sharing and all, I might as well say this too. I mixed 1 gallon of urine :hump: to 4 gallons of water ;-), and fed to all my plants in the garden today. 8)

Waking up the soil a bit hopefully.

Prior to that, and 4-5 hours after sunlight, I watered them all again with just clean, clear water. I will do another day of just clean watering, and resume with organic amendments the following. I will post results as I notice them.
 
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ErieR33FER

ErieR33FER

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I have been told by an old grower/farmer that separating the egg whites from the yolk and adding toeggshel tea is a good way to boost it's nitrogen content.

I did it and besidethe smell it worked wonders on my pink Kush plant I had one year. It was in a tiny pot by I got like two ounces off it lol.
 
canadiankushman

canadiankushman

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So do I absolutely need to ferment the dandelion tea? I have been making a regular compost tea but adding in puréed dandelions and nettles and my plants are growing like mad. Wouldn't these be eaten up in my soil just like the pruned shade leaves/branches that take just over 1 week to decompose while laying on top of the soil like mulch? I doubt it would even take as long as the leaves since the dandelion/nettle are puréed into a liquid..?

Ck.
 
J.Mike

J.Mike

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irieie said:
How much should I piss in my plants. Should I piss directly into the pots or should I pee into a cup and then mix it with water. I am thinking about the second route because I have trouble stopping midstream so measuring word be tough. What
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could not stop laughing, so seriously, If it has not been answered; urine is a sterile host of leftover unneccesary vitamins minerals etc. I tested my urine 1 oz/7oz h20 at 3210 ppm,5.2ph, so its great for the raw compost pile, but not directly into your plants. Assuming you eat a healthy balanced diet, urine is a very good source organics. I am testing my grow with 1oz urine mixed with blood meal tea, 1 cup blood meal, 1 quart h20 suntead one week, strained x2 and I use one fl oz daily to keep my ph and ppms up after nute change. so far with some benefits
 
GrowerGoneWild

GrowerGoneWild

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I've been experimenting with unconventional organics lately.. Just trying to recycle what I have and use it on plants.

1) Hempy bucket with a jack herrer clone, just mixed it in with spent coffee grounds. Not good, ended up with a small burnt plant. Ive been using coffee grounds on my other houseplants, they fukking love it, Cannabis in a hempy bucket using only grounds.. not good.

2) Zen Potting soil, Chemdog clone. The soil is just outta the bag, its not very hot, good for seedlings, but after awhile I'm seeing MG/Ca deff.. Anyways, I've been pouring leftover veggie/fruit juice, as a top ammedment, I think she's looking better,

I might try a eggshell, veggie/fruit juice slurry as a top feed.
 
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