Science has proven God exists...

BigNBushy

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Dr.K, thank you for an intelligent reply.

I have not seen data on the difference not existing in blacks in England.

I have seen data on the difference being decreased here in the United States.

When you take blacks out of the ghetto, give them a stable home life, and high incomes, they perform better, but still well below their white suburban neighnors.

The gap becomes the smallest among blacks who are adopted and raised in white families.

I forget the numbers.

I think the reasons are an all of the above answer.

The social and cultural reasons are undeniable, but they don't make up all the lost ground when completely eliminated.

If English blacks score very close to the natives of that island than my theory is shot and I'll be forced to change my mind.
 

sheskunk

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Dr.K, thank you for an intelligent reply.

I have not seen data on the difference not existing in blacks in England.

I have seen data on the difference being decreased here in the United States.

When you take blacks out of the ghetto, give them a stable home life, and high incomes, they perform better, but still well below their white suburban neighnors.

The gap becomes the smallest among blacks who are adopted and raised in white families.

I forget the numbers.

I think the reasons are an all of the above answer.

The social and cultural reasons are undeniable, but they don't make up all the lost ground when completely eliminated.

If English blacks score very close to the natives of that island than my theory is shot and I'll be forced to change my mind.
The Blacks aren't smarter, the Natives are just dumber. ;)
 

BigNBushy

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The Blacks aren't smarter, the Natives are just dumber. ;)
They take the same iq tests there has here. If blacks in the UK avg over, say a 97 or maybe even 95, then that would be close enough to satisfy me.

To this point I have not seen or heard of a black population that averages over 90.

All the reasons appear to simply be excuses and rationalizations that don't make sense.
 

BigNBushy

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I'll say this though.

Suppose blacks are less intelligent because they have an inferior brain genetically. I don't hate them for it. It isn't their fault. And they are no less of a person because of it.


But if it turns out they are less intelligent because they choose to be, well I got no patience for that shit.

A people that wholesale decide to be stupid is a drain on humanity.

So I don't know which is worse.
 

Padawanbater2

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I'll say this though.

Suppose blacks are less intelligent because they have an inferior brain genetically. I don't hate them for it. It isn't their fault. And they are no less of a person because of it.


But if it turns out they are less intelligent because they choose to be, well I got no patience for that shit.

A people that wholesale decide to be stupid is a drain on humanity.

So I don't know which is worse.
You don't know/understand enough about how the human body works or evolved to make such a decision.

You don't accept evolution from what I've gathered throughout our history together on RIU

This is a pretty big obstacle to understanding how each human being is genetically nearly identical, regardless of their age, race, religion, sexual orientation, work ethic, health, skin color, driving ability, attractiveness, scent, height or weight.

Probably why you hold such views in the first place..

"If you're born that way, you're A-OK!, but if not, you're not squat!" should be your campaign slogan, it's so retarded

"Suppose whites are less intelligent because they have an inferior brain genetically. I don't hate them for it. It isn't their fault. And they are no less of a person because of it."

If someone said that to your face, how would you react?
 

Doer

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They take the same iq tests there has here. If blacks in the UK avg over, say a 97 or maybe even 95, then that would be close enough to satisfy me.

To this point I have not seen or heard of a black population that averages over 90.

All the reasons appear to simply be excuses and rationalizations that don't make sense.
Why is it you care so much to be a superior race?

You, by your own words are not a superior example.

Is that it?
 

Wavels

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There is a controversial new book out addressing some of the thoughts expressed above.

I have not yet read it, I am on the waiting list at my library.

Anyway, some of you may be interested in "checking it out".





Drawing on startling new evidence from the mapping of the genome, an explosive new account of the genetic basis of race and its role in the human story
Fewer ideas have been more toxic or harmful than the idea of the biological reality of race, and with it the idea that humans of different races are biologically different from one another. For this understandable reason, the idea has been banished from polite academic conversation. Arguing that race is more than just a social construct can get a scholar run out of town, or at least off campus, on a rail. Human evolution, the consensus view insists, ended in prehistory.

Inconveniently, as Nicholas Wade argues in A Troublesome Inheritance, the consensus view cannot be right. And in fact, we know that populations have changed in the past few thousand years—to be lactose tolerant, for example, and to survive at high altitudes. Race is not a bright-line distinction; by definition it means that the more human populations are kept apart, the more they evolve their own distinct traits under the selective pressure known as Darwinian evolution. For many thousands of years, most human populations stayed where they were and grew distinct, not just in outward appearance but in deeper senses as well.

Wade, the longtime journalist covering genetic advances for The New York Times, draws widely on the work of scientists who have made crucial breakthroughs in establishing the reality of recent human evolution. The most provocative claims in this book involve the genetic basis of human social habits. What we might call middle-class social traits—thrift, docility, nonviolence—have been slowly but surely inculcated genetically within agrarian societies, Wade argues. These “values” obviously had a strong cultural component, but Wade points to evidence that agrarian societies evolved away from hunter-gatherer societies in some crucial respects. Also controversial are his findings regarding the genetic basis of traits we associate with intelligence, such as literacy and numeracy, in certain ethnic populations, including the Chinese and Ashkenazi Jews.

Wade believes deeply in the fundamental equality of all human peoples. He also believes that science is best served by pursuing the truth without fear, and if his mission to arrive at a coherent summa of what the new genetic science does and does not tell us about race and human history leads straight into a minefield, then so be it. This will not be the last word on the subject, but it will
begin a powerful and overdue conversation.
http://www.amazon.com/Troublesome-Inheritance-Genes-Human-History/dp/1594204462
 

Doer

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Yep.

...we found that lower general intelligence (g) in childhood predicts greater racism in adulthood, and this effect was largely mediated via conservative ideology. A secondary analysis of a U.S. data set confirmed a predictive effect of poor abstract-reasoning skills on antihomosexual prejudice, a relation partially mediated by both authoritarianism and low levels of intergroup contact. All analyses controlled for education and socioeconomic status.
 

abandonconflict

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Yep.

...we found that lower general intelligence (g) in childhood predicts greater racism in adulthood, and this effect was largely mediated via conservative ideology
Keep reading this until you get it. It is the conclusion of the peer reviewed scientific research. The secondary analysis mentioned in the following sentence is just icing on the top.
 

UncleBuck

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But if it turns out they are less intelligent because they choose to be, well I got no patience for that shit.
says the person with the alleged (self-reported) 140 IQ who was born to a wealthy family with every advantage in the world, and ended up a worthless fucking junky who steals from his own parents and only by those advantages he was lucky enough to have, somehow landed a job making $8 an hour at subway as a 30 year old pile of shit.

:clap:

it's a good thing other people have more patience for that shit than you do, otherwise you'd be dead or in prison right now. possibly sucking some guy's dick or taking it up the ass for your next dope fix.
 

MuyLocoNC

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says the person with the alleged (self-reported) 140 IQ who was born to a wealthy family with every advantage in the world, and ended up a worthless fucking junky who steals from his own parents and only by those advantages he was lucky enough to have, somehow landed a job making $8 an hour at subway as a 30 year old pile of shit.

:clap:

it's a good thing other people have more patience for that shit than you do, otherwise you'd be dead or in prison right now. possibly sucking some guy's dick or taking it up the ass for your next dope fix.
30 year olds working at Subway are piles of shit? If they make my pastrami as ordered, they are heroes, at least for the time it takes me to consume it.

Mmm, pastrami.
 

UncleBuck

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Muypoco appreciates a good sandwich artist.
the right has shown that they will stick together no matter what, even when that means sticking up for lowlives like zimmy the snitch, cliven bundy the racist mooch, or bigotednbushy, the closeted homosexual racist wonderboy.
 
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