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rory420420
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youll need sweet and salty to offset the bitter..
indicat33
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Ok, so I chopped 12" using the outer 1/2" only, no core. Blended with cranberry juice. This resulted in about 24 oz of frothy green "pudding". Tried as I did, I was only able to get about 7Tbs of this down without gagging/punking. Absolutely Vile, as some may already know. So, I strained the remainder of the "goop" and drank the bitter cranberry juice. I hope to get some effects as eating that disgusting pudding was far worse than any description I had read. I expected bad, but this shit was unreal. Anywho, I wish I had a juicer. Should make things simpler
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rory420420
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thd goop is the cactus flesh mostly..straining really did nothing but collect liquid/water imo...eat all that shit!
indicat33
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Dude, I'm going to have to find a better ingestion method. No sense in torturing myself if all of my efforts will end up on the floor before me. Have 12" Left that I'm prolly going to dry, powder and encapsulate. Just smoked a bowl, but I feel something "different" other than MJ. Like a very light inebriation. It's only been about 30 min since ingestion. Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part. We will see, but I worry I didn't consume enough. At this point, I'd be happy with just a threshold dose.
rory420420
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you didnt consume enough..i need to come up with a recipe for this...hmmm...too bad you cant fry it! lol
fridayfishfry
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I cut mine by the ridge like a pickle. Chewed the pieces like crude gum couldn't get enough down to do much. I would recommend peeling the green part and finding a way to consume that part. From what I remember that's where it's at.
I started to peel the green part off with a peeler but the spikes kept getting in the way. So de-spiking and peeling takes a long while. I just gave up after a few pieces and chewed the pickle-like slices.
I started to peel the green part off with a peeler but the spikes kept getting in the way. So de-spiking and peeling takes a long while. I just gave up after a few pieces and chewed the pickle-like slices.
rory420420
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chug chug chug!!!! ..thats what you gotta do...
DutchKillsRambo
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Keister it. That should eliminate the taste, though what hell it will play on your bowels I can't say.
canndo
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Actually I have seen receipies for cooking the skin and flesh of these cacti. I believe they used an egg and flour mixture to make a sort of relleno.
indicat33
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Thanks for the replies, actually making the brew atm. Going to finish boiling and let cool, strain and drink liquid. It's horribly bitter already and still has another while to simmer. Using lots of cranberry juice to facilitate the alkaloid migration. This will be much easier to down than what I tried initially. Eh, we will see...
Metasynth
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Something to be said about effectively plugging your nose 100% when you chug nasty liquid.
canndo
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I urge you to consider cutting a few inches off of each one, say 3 or so. Let the ends form a cork like seal on the ends, maybe a week or two, then get yourself some cactus mix and put each down about two inches into the soil in a nice, flat ceramic pot. it is the perfect time of year for it. water this well drained soil about once every other week. You could also use your stash of rooting powder, or gel and coat the part of the plant that you intend to put into the soil. After a surprisingly short amount of time you will begin to see some new spines on that little plug. While your little plug is getting ready it will slowly begin to shrink between the ridges. Once you see those spines begin to grow, and the plug begin to swell a little you will know that you have gotten roots.
Once that happens, you can water more often, especially in the summer - I water mine once or twice a week in the summer, once a week in the spring and fall and once a month in the winter.
The point of all this is to perpetuate your strain. If you happen to find upon eating the rest that it is strong, you will have started a life time supply of a cactus that you will forever know has about the same amount of active ingredient. Now, for the most part you can estimate your dose without having to guess. OF course the potency will depend upon the time of year you harvest, the amount of water retained in the flesh and the fertility of the soil it is grown in.
But the main point is that you will get pups or sprites very quickly. After the sprites are several inches long (usually one season), you can cut them off and plant them. Each growing tip will yield about a foot a year. After you have done this for several seasons you will never be without it again. I currently have 28 independently growing tips and another 20 or so sprites that I will likely plant in a few weeks.
I am experimenting with laying the little plug on its side in the dirt, it seems to work pretty well and I get a few more sprites than I normaly get otherwise. When your original stock is rooted enough, it will put forth half a dozen or more sprites every year.
Be sure your soil drains well, very well, it should not retain water as the cactus is prone to rot. But don't think that your plants don't need nutrients. I ususally put osmocote on the soil every spring and again at the middle of summer. Full sunlight after they have been alimatized is the best. Also, I am finding that adding some calcium plant suplement is a good idea.
Of course, if you find that you don't think these cuttings give the best chemical yield, then consider it a dry run. Even if you don't harvest them right away, eventually you will have enough to do an extraction where it won't matter how strong they are.
rory420420
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tart adds to bitter..you need sweet and salt..if its the flavor,if its the texture,try something bland to get down..soak french bread..
canndo
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It totally screwed up my jack lalain juicer. Unless you get some sort of compression juicer, I don't think it will work.Ok, so I chopped 12" using the outer 1/2" only, no core. Blended with cranberry juice. This resulted in about 24 oz of frothy green "pudding". Tried as I did, I was only able to get about 7Tbs of this down without gagging/punking. Absolutely Vile, as some may already know. So, I strained the remainder of the "goop" and drank the bitter cranberry juice. I hope to get some effects as eating that disgusting pudding was far worse than any description I had read. I expected bad, but this shit was unreal. Anywho, I wish I had a juicer. Should make things simpler
canndo
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Cactus mix works well. I also don't like to pay that much so I use about half standard potting soil, the rest sand and maybe a tiny bit of coir. I would advise you change that if you are rooting to even less potting mix. All you are trying to do is get the cactus to be in the dark with occasional moisture hitting it in order to trigger the rooting hormones. I let them root for a season before moving them to their final growing spot but I am finding that the flatter, wider pots tend to grow larger cactus, as you can see some of them are pretty big around, those are the ones that either started or are, in the flat pots.
I think that the pearlite may retain moisture too long. If I find that the soil is at all moist after two days, I run the risk of rot, esecially early on. I didn't show you how many I lost to rot this year, the risk is lessened when the plant is well rooted but you can still see rotting portions.
I have left long pieces, partly in the shade and partly in the sun. After a while the shaded bits will root even if they are just outside. If you look closely at one of those pictures you will see a root just below a sprite, I believe this is simply because the sprite provided enough shade for it to start.
It is all a matter of duplication and delayed reward. I started all that you see there with four, four inch long sprites. All of it, plus the 12 feet I last harvested came from those little 4. Now that was about 10 years ago - however, I made several mistakes. I didn't water enough so the first several years they didn't grow but a few inches. Then, when they were very well rooted, I didn't cut the tops off and was content with the few sprites that grew. I know better now, some of the larger cut ones have huge root systems, I cut them off at the top and within a few months had lots of sprites. I also snipped the growing tip off the harvested one and planted that, it grew the quickest but gave me no sprites. I figure, if you do what I learned to do, you could come up with two the first year, maybe 6 the second and then 12 or more the third. After that you can let the biggest ones grow to harvest, take the top several inches and eat the rest. That way you are still multiplying your count, and getting 12 or more feet a year. This year I should get maybe 6 feet but next year I should get maybe 20.
indicat33
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Okay, so I downed about 20 oz. of bitter cranberry-cimora about an hr ago. Is it possible that the little I ingested earlier combined with this has finally put me in threshold? I definitely feel strange, my pupils are HUGE, colors/contrasts are sharper, lighting is different.. like on a low dose of 'shrooms. I have not experienced any nausea. Not sure what to think about it- my jaw keeps clenching..