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desert dude

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Do women earn 17% less than men in comparable jobs, working comparable hours? No, says a study done by the St. Louis Federal Reserve

http://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/re/articles/?id=2160

Despite the accuracy of these numbers, many researchers believe that the mere comparison of median weekly earnings of male and female workers presents an incomplete picture. First, women are likely to work fewer hours than men, which would make a gap in weekly earnings between the two groups substantial even if their hourly wages are the same. For this reason, most economic studies of a gender gap, including all of the studies reviewed in this article, use hourly wages instead of weekly earnings as a measure.

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Some researchers believe that it is not enough to compare wages of similar men and women. They argue that total compensation (wages together with benefits) must be compared. Women of child-bearing age may prefer jobs with a lower wage but with employer-paid parental leave, sick leave and child care to jobs with a higher wage but without such benefits. A study that used National Longitudinal Survey of Youth 1979 (NLSY79) found that female workers were indeed more likely to receive family-friendly fringe benefits.6 Some economists believe that female workers "pay" for the benefits they prefer by accepting a lower wage. If that is the case, excluding fringe benefits would exaggerate the actual gender wage disparity.

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Here is some more confounding evidence:

“The main conclusion from our work is that female M.B.A.’s have not done as well as male M.B.A.’s in the labor market,” the report says. “That finding should not come as a surprise. The more startling findings concern why they have not done as well.”


In business school and early employment, male and female career paths are quite similar, the survey shows. Women tend to take more marketing classes and men more finance classes; but their grade point averages differ only very slightly, and the years following graduation generally lead to similar jobs and performance.


The real difference, said Dr. Bertrand in an interview, starts with maternity leave. “Any departure, for six months or more, is costly,” she said. “Male or female, you never re-enter where you were.”


Women executives who do not have children follow career paths that closely replicate those of their male peers. Successful M.B.A. couples have similar work patterns, said Dr. Bertrand. “Women without children married to high-earning spouses are just as likely to work and accumulate post-M.B.A. work experience at an almost identical rate,” she said. “Call a woman without a child a man.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/29/business/global/29iht-riedgenper.html?_r=0

WAR ON WYMIN!!!

 

Canna Sylvan

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Desert, you don't get he's making fun of you as a characture. That he can then mock by warping an equally grotesque women controlled world.
 

Red1966

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The two post above me are what most people think of feminism, this is nt the case. feminism is love for all people, love that is strong enough to stop rape and violence towards women. If you have a daughter, sister, mother, aunt and u dont want any harm done to them, then feminism is a step towards that.
Implying women are dependent on men for protection seems counter to the idea of feminism.
 

desert dude

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Women are primary care givers for children. You can thank nature for that. Personally, I think that is a good thing because kids are important. To expect that employers are going to give "equal pay" to workers who don't perform equal work is silly.

WAR ON WYMIN!
 

desert dude

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Breaking news: Men and women are different. They are wired differently. It takes both men and women for human society to function. Denigrating men is not a path to happiness for women, although it seems to be a good political tactic for Democrats.
 

UncleBuck

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look at desert dude desperately try to deny reality, assign gender roles, and pigeonhole feminism for some odd reason.
 

Dr Kynes

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Desert, you don't get he's making fun of you as a characture. That he can then mock by warping an equally grotesque women controlled world.
no, the OP is not that clever.

he read some propaganda pamphlets writ by some raging diesel flab glacier, and assumed this shit must be true cuz paper wont submit to accepting just any old scribbling.

Paper demands Troof! otherwise it wont sit still under your pen.

OP is a crypto-marxist trying to appeal to the Lumpen-Gyno-Protletarian and the easily radicalized queer community (stalin courted them too, until he had control...) and any other group which is marginalized, or might be made to feel they are with the careful application of propaganda.

OP now wishes to avoid discussing marxism, and instead insists we examine the specious arguments about "racism", "sexism", "homophobia", etc etc etc, thus the argument is framed squarely in the wheelhouse of the unintelligent radical left, where name calling and accusations of an "Evil-Ism" are all you need to succeed.

OP needs to read something written by a woman who has a perspective beyond that of a militant lesbian radical marxist.

too bad all those women are sellouts, and thus impeached by their own refusal to conform to the left's ideal.
 

foreverflyhi

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Implying women are dependent on men for protection seems counter to the idea of feminism.
R u serious!!!! R u implying that the women should deffend themselves while being raped?
I cant believe u seriously, why come in This thread? Leave please, come back when you realize you are wrong.
 

desert dude

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look at desert dude desperately try to deny reality, assign gender roles, and pigeonhole feminism for some odd reason.
Let's compare:

I have a mother, now passed, who I love and respect. I have a wife that I love and respect and don't treat as a meal ticket. I have a daughter that I put through college, and two sons that I have not put through college, at least not yet. I have two grand daughters that I love and cherish. How misogynistic of me.

How about you, Buck?
 

Dr Kynes

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R u serious!!!! R u implying that the women should deffend themselves while being raped?
I cant believe u seriously, why come in This thread? Leave please, come back when you realize you are wrong.
ZOMG RU implying that when a rapist attacks, a woman should simply submit????

i cant believe U seriously why create this fail thread? stop huffing paint please, with your brain turned to goo you will never realize how stupid you sound.
 

foreverflyhi

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Women are primary care givers for children. You can thank nature for that. Personally, I think that is a good thing because kids are important. To expect that employers are going to give "equal pay" to workers who don't perform equal work is silly.

WAR ON WYMIN!
your all over the place with this comment, the only thing i agree with you is children are important.
Lol on the nature comment, your probley one to think there are only two sexes. (I know your probley curious, but there is up to 7 scientifily known sexes, i only know of 5 that i can describe, male(penis) female(vagina) herm (penis vagina) merm (penis with ovaries) ferm (vagina with testies)) correct me if im wrong, been awhile since i talked about this...
 

Red1966

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Looks like your avoiding my question, do you have a daughter? Wife? MOTHER? If so, how can u say the things u have said? What are you scared of?
Not anymore. You claim feminism isn't about race and then repeat the accusation that oppression of women is a white capitalist only thing again in the same post. Accusing me of being scared is without merit. I'm not scared of woman. Well, OK, there's a couple that scare the bejeebers out of me, but not because they're woman. I'm not even arguing about feminism. I'm arguing your portrayal of it as a white only thing. It seems your pretense of being a feminist is just a ploy for you to promote racism and pretend you're defending women.
 

foreverflyhi

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ZOMG RU implying that when a rapist attacks, a woman should simply submit????

i cant believe U seriously why create this fail thread? stop huffing paint please, with your brain turned to goo you will never realize how stupid you sound.
L
Wtf?
if a woman can defend themselve while being raped, then more power to her, but for your information this is not alway the case, theres many diffent types of rapes, some more aggressive then others, point being is when a rapist attacks, its too late for a women to defend herself.

my comment was meant to make people like you to realize that we as men, (and women and children) have the power to stop it.
 

desert dude

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To better match women and men with similar characteristics relevant in a job market, another study used the very detailed National Survey of College Graduates 1993 (NSCG), which provides information not only on the highest degree attained, but also on major field of study and labor force experience.5 To explore racial differences in the gender wage gap, the study compared women of various ethnicities with white men who had similar education, work experience and academic major and who spoke English at home. The study reports a wage gap of 9 percent for white women, 13 percent for black women, 2 percent for Asian women and 0.4 percent for Hispanic women. When the analysis was restricted to unmarried, childless women only, the wage gap shrunk to 7 percent for white women, 9 percent for black women and to virtually zero for Asian and Hispanic women.

http://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/re/articles/?id=2160
 

UncleBuck

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R u serious!!!! R u implying that the women should deffend themselves while being raped?
I cant believe u seriously, why come in This thread? Leave please, come back when you realize you are wrong.
look at the person you are talking to and what they have said about rape:

If you choose to dress like a harlot, you choose to treated like a harlot.
profiles in courage here, folks.

glad red is with desert dude and kynes, and not us.
 

UncleBuck

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Let's compare:

I have a mother, now passed, who I love and respect. I have a wife that I love and respect and don't treat as a meal ticket. I have a daughter that I put through college, and two sons that I have not put through college, at least not yet. I have two grand daughters that I love and cherish. How misogynistic of me.

How about you, Buck?
you are about as misogynist as they get. racist too.
 

UncleBuck

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You claim feminism isn't about race and then repeat the accusation that oppression of women is a white capitalist only thing...It seems your pretense of being a feminist is just a ploy for you to promote racism and pretend you're defending women.
this is perfect.

https://www.rollitup.org/politics/695456-right-wrong-why-i-think.html

Frankly, if you choose to dress like a gangsta, you are choosing to be treated like a gangsta. If you choose to dress like a harlot, you choose to treated like a harlot.
 
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