Why do you reject the theory of evolution?

[Zaehet Strife]

i dont know about evolution could it be that we are rat experiments to a higher power?? could it be that fosills were planted and confusion was puposly implanted, lost civiliations no records??? could it be we are a simulation on a grid??? the smaller you look into a small partical it is thier yet its not??? could it be its all just a projection??? could it be all a test??? could evolution really be evolution???? its crazzy that we just dont know the facts.. to many missing bones to fit the gaps?? what is the real deal??? i dont know man its crazzy if you ask me.. is it all a distraction from the truth???

Great post dude, mad props. It is nice to find another human in this world that can accept one cold hard fact... theologically and metaphysically speaking- that we don't know SHIT for certain. Beliefs? They call them beliefs because you THINK they are true, not because you KNOW they are true, if you knew they were true then you wouldn't have to fucking believe in them. Is it that hard to understand?

I know it can be a scary thing to live life without certainty in whatever beliefs you have, but isn't it so much more honest? Doesn't it feel good to not have to lie to yourself, to tell yourself... to pretend you are certain of something that you really aren't certain of?

For most people, the fear of not knowing is too great, they cannot help but make up certainties within their minds in order to cope with the fear of not knowing. I think that is sad, i think that is cowardly, and i think it is a sign of a weak minded person.

But i for one am no weakling, i don't give a fuck about being lost in a universe without the answers to all of my most important questions. I'm not gonna be a little bitch, fuck that, i'm stronger than that. Gonna live life the best way i can, tryin to help when i can, do what i have been taught and feel is right, and have as much fun as i can before i die.

Fuck pretending, that's for little BITCHES. And there are far too many little bitches on this planet anyways...

 

[Wilksey]

You have clearly never been to the Deep South...

Indeed, I have.

Amazingly enough, I've met sharp folks everywhere I've traveled, and folks that were....not as sharp.

While the geography may change, the biology is pretty consistent.

 

[Kanaplya]

Great post dude, mad props. It is nice to find another human in this world that can accept one cold hard fact... theologically and metaphysically speaking- that we don't know SHIT for certain. Beliefs? They call them beliefs because you THINK they are true, not because you KNOW they are true, if you knew they were true then you wouldn't have to fucking believe in them. Is it that hard to understand?

I know it can be a scary thing to live life without certainty in whatever beliefs you have, but isn't it so much more honest? Doesn't it feel good to not have to lie to yourself, to tell yourself... to pretend you are certain of something that you really aren't certain of?

For most people, the fear of not knowing is too great, they cannot help but make up certainties within their minds in order to cope with the fear of not knowing. I think that is sad, i think that is cowardly, and i think it is a sign of a weak minded person.

But i for one am no weakling, i don't give a fuck about being lost in a universe without the answers to all of my most important questions. I'm not gonna be a little bitch, fuck that, i'm stronger than that. Gonna live life the best way i can, tryin to help when i can, do what i have been taught and feel is right, and have as much fun as i can before i die.

Fuck pretending, that's for little BITCHES. And there are far too many little bitches on this planet anyways...

Certainty is boring. My favorite part about life is that you never know the how and the why. The more you know the harder it is to find something that interests you. That is part of why ignorance is bliss - less knowledgeable and intelligent people tend to live happier lives, adjusted for economic standard of living of course, lol. I think the fact that we know that our lives are limited and not knowing what's beyond that is wht makes our lives interesting.

If people truly KNEW (yes, I'm implying that even very religious people are full of doubt on the inside) that they are going to heaven, their lives would be nothing more than waiting rooms and they would have amended the 'no suicide' clause a long time ago.

 

[Kanaplya]

 

[burgertime2010]

Ah, thanks, but no. Your perspective is a slice of the pie. That goes for all of us humans. Seems as though your quest is to divide, as opposed to make whole. Now we are not even talking about science anymore, just intolerance with a veil of 'data' on it.

Intolerance? I do not care how you view the world and the truth is you don't know anything about me. The spiritual and the sciences I take seriously, and I care when they are not respected. Part of learning is research and more importantly desire to understand. You understand without data, why ask?

 

[Zaehet Strife]

Certainty is boring. My favorite part about life is that you never know the how and the why.

Is your avatar motha fuckin Vampire Hunter D?!?!?!?! If so... fuckin A man, hells yea!!!

"Uncertainty in the presence of vivid hopes, dreams and fears can be very painful... but must be endured if we wish to live our lives without the support of comforting fairy tales." -Bertrand Russell

 

[thump easy]

well the only clip i have real evidence of real evolution is this..[video=youtube_share;evA-R9OS-Vo]http://youtu.be/evA-R9OS-Vo[/video] but you must see the hole clip and you be the judge.. i grew on these guys and know they have evolved!!!!!

 

[thump easy]

[video=youtube_share;eM0SvzdbsXA]http://youtu.be/eM0SvzdbsXA[/video]

 

[thump easy]

im sorry man i couldnt stop laughing at this video i grew up with these cats early and they the only fools acepted early in rap!!! evolution!!!!!

 

[canndo]

I agree with help those that are less fortunate, but giving them money or food isn't the way to help them. As JESUS CHRIST said "Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a life time".
So as our country is doing, they give a man a fish. When instead we should be teaching a man to fish.

But let that man ask for bait and tackle and those who believe in teaching a man to fish will call him a bum.

 

[burgertime2010]

Great post dude, mad props. It is nice to find another human in this world that can accept one cold hard fact... theologically and metaphysically speaking- that we don't know SHIT for certain. Beliefs? They call them beliefs because you THINK they are true, not because you KNOW they are true, if you knew they were true then you wouldn't have to fucking believe in them. Is it that hard to understand?

I know it can be a scary thing to live life without certainty in whatever beliefs you have, but isn't it so much more honest? Doesn't it feel good to not have to lie to yourself, to tell yourself... to pretend you are certain of something that you really aren't certain of?

For most people, the fear of not knowing is too great, they cannot help but make up certainties within their minds in order to cope with the fear of not knowing. I think that is sad, i think that is cowardly, and i think it is a sign of a weak minded person.

But i for one am no weakling, i don't give a fuck about being lost in a universe without the answers to all of my most important questions. I'm not gonna be a little bitch, fuck that, i'm stronger than that. Gonna live life the best way i can, tryin to help when i can, do what i have been taught and feel is right, and have as much fun as i can before i die.

Fuck pretending, that's for little BITCHES. And there are far too many little bitches on this planet anyways...

All you know is that you don't know is Agnosticism so manage your pride.

 

[canndo]

The only problem I have with evolution is the seemingly HUGE intelligence disparity between our species and every other species on the planet.

Intelligence is obviously important to survival, and yet, ours seems to be the only damn species that focused on intelligence throughout the evolutionary path.

Why?

How did we turn out so completely different from our other primate cousins, when they essentially have the same tools we did back in the day. Why didn't / haven't they developed the simple tools we did to hunt? Why don't they use furs to keep warm in colder climates? Why don't they develop more refined "languages" to communicate?

It just seems odd to me, almost as if we had some kind of "help" along the way by....something?

If intelligence is so important to survival, why isn't it reflected in the evolutionary path of the rest of the animal kingdom?

So while evolution certainly makes sense, IMO, it's only part of the answer.

Ah the hubris of man.


Intelligence is not necessary for survival as many many unintelligent orgnisms have been around and thrived for far longer than we. What is "necessary" for survival is an adpativity to that creature's surroundings. Ants are not very intelligen but adherence to a few simple rules have managed have them do quite well.

As for the rest? do you understand the complex communications of trees? whales? other primates? We did not turn out so different than any of our primate cousins or any other mammal either The polar bear is quite comfortable with his furs in the deepest of winters. I can imagine the highly intelligent crow wondering from his high purch or his glide over us all "how is it that man never evolved to fly, after all flight enables us to travel hundreds of miles in a day for our food, and to escape our predators".

It is all a matter of persepctive.

 

[burgertime2010]

Is intelligence a collection? The brilliant few and the masses riding on coattails.

 

[joe macclennan]

And should also be proven not to exist, to be fair

not really, that's like saying sasquatch exists because it hasn't been proven it doesn't.

it doesn't work like that.

 

[Zaehet Strife]

All you know is that you don't know is Agnosticism so manage your pride.

I am not proud of what i believe or don't believe, pride has no place where beliefs are concerned. Only fools and imbeciles have pride in their theological/metaphysical beliefs.

 

[thump easy]

so i take it you guys dont believe that beasty boys evolved????? shit i like the marachie on the limo!!!!!

 

[Zaehet Strife]

Yikes, that's harsh.

Strife, they represent something on a deeper level. (water, deeper, see?) Some people get in touch with their inner world and can only describe what they see there. You like your outer world and describe it as you see it.

There is not right or wrong here, sorry.

Someone who believes in mermaids (who is above 12 years old)... is fuckin stupid, harsh it may be, but reality can be a harsh mistress. /shakes head

The same can be said for people who are adults that still believe in the easter bunny, or the tooth fairy, or santa clause... would you not call them fuckin stupid if they refused to acknowledge the truth of the matter when faced with it?

 

[Zaehet Strife]

not really, that's like saying sasquatch exists because it hasn't been proven it doesn't.

it doesn't work like that.

I agree, no one has proven that fairies or dragons don't exist. And because never in the history of mankind has either of those been seen, or bones been collected or evidence been gathered... we can safely assume that the most logical standpoint is that, no, as far as we can tell so far... fairies and dragons do not exist, the same can be said for a soul.

 

[burgertime2010]

I am not proud of what i believe or don't believe, pride has no place where beliefs are concerned. Only fools and imbeciles have pride in their theological/metaphysical beliefs.

That is certainly true, you earn pride I believe. You are saying, to a degree, that I am full of shit for what I say with a high level of certainty as well. Just be aware that is how you sound. Take it for whatever it is worth.

 

[Kanaplya]

I agree, no one has proven that fairies or dragons don't exist. And because never in the history of mankind has either of those been seen, or bones been collected or evidence been gathered... we can safely assume that the most logical standpoint is that, no, as far as we can tell so far... fairies and dragons do not exist, the same can be said for a soul.

But when you really thing of it, a creature with a woman's body and a fish tail is at least physiologically feasible opposed to an all knowing all powerful white bearded man in the sky. And Dragons live in Indonesia...