Your parents, what are they like?

What were your parents like?

  • Both parents were instrumental to my life, both showed they loved me very much at all times

    Votes: 14 45.2%

  • 1 parent was intrumental to my life and who I am, the other did not consider me a priority

    Votes: 10 32.3%

  • Both parents were complacent with things like education, I was loved, just not pushed..

    Votes: 3 9.7%

  • Neither parent really showed they cared much about me or my future

    Votes: 1 3.2%

  • Other

    Votes: 3 9.7%
  • Total voters
    31
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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ClaytonBigsby said:
Ok. You have changed your initial position, but I will let it slide. Are there countires where religion is forced on you? Yes. Do you HAVE TO accept them? No. Is it best to keep those thoughts to yourself there? Yes.

BUT, you are attacking religious people here; in a pot forum. I have never seen you ask them, why they believe what they believe or the origin of their religion. Perhaps if they have seen Zeitgeist, and what are their thoughts on that!? Instead, all I have seen you do is demand that they prove god exists using scientific method. You seek these people out, here, in a pot forum. You start threads on the matter. NOBODY is pushing religion on YOU, here, in a pot forum. Do you really think anyone here, in a pot forum, is going to prove god using scientific method? So, why the fuck do you even care what they believe, when they are NOT "pushing" religion on YOU, here, in a pot forum?

If it bothers you so, why not go to Iran and argue your postition with them? Why not go show them the error in their ways?

You're like a virgin saying sex is overrated, because you have never experienced it. You have never experienced a ghost, or paranormal activity, so you insist it does not happen and demand its proof using scientific method. Do you honestly believe that EVERYTHING that we accept as real can be proven using scientific method? Do you not agree that there are things that are reality, that simply cannot be proven using scientific method? Are are you simply being "willfully ignorant"?
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No, I've stayed pretty consistent with what I've said

Where have I "attacked a religious person"?

Apparently you miss a big part of what's said because I ask those sorts of questions all the time.

Pseudo scientific claims can't be proved or disproved using scientific methods which is why they are essentially useless to us. I've never "demanded" someone prove God.

I'm not sure why you feel this would be an exclusively online thing, I post my opinions and people respond, that's how it works.

Why would I go to another religious country only with even less freedom, what kind of sense would that make?

People who believe whatever they've experienced was a ghost haven't considered all the implications that entails, they've been preconditioned through society and have personal biases or agendas, or feel personally offended for even being questioned it might have been something else.

Everything that we currently define as real can be scientifically proven to whatever degree.

kinetic said:
Pad, I recently sat next to someone as they died in that very moment. I felt something I don't think science can explain. Do you know that feeling I mean, have you ever had that experience? Do you have children Pad? Were you there when they were born? Pad, do you meditate daily? What do you feel when you come back through your consciouness? Have you ever seen something move while you were sitting in meditation? Like the wall seems to be moving in a way that it can't? Can you tell me why scientifically the wall seemed to move while I was sitting? I've answered your polls and contributed to your threads you should take the time to answer those questions for me please.
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-have you ever sat next to someone as they died? No

You felt "something", that means you didn't know what it was, right?

I don't have kids

I don't meditate daily

I've seen things move, under the influence, totally sober, drifting off to sleep and wide awake, there's not enough evidence to conclude anything other than the default position, something didn't move and it was a glitch in the information sent from my eye to my brain, we know that happens, and as far as we know, inanimate objects don't move unless something moves them first

They seem to move because your brain didn't get the necessary amount or set of data provided by your 5 senses, and you perceived it in whatever way you did to make you think the walls were moving

kinetic said:
Pad, is altruism just a concept like God? Or do you think it really can exist?
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I'm not sure if I believe altruism exists


 
april

april

Pickle Queen
I moved 3000km away from my mother and brother, they have issues i'm not dealing with any longer, life is good these days :)
 
ClaytonBigsby

ClaytonBigsby

Well-Known Member
Padawanbater2 said:

No, I've stayed pretty consistent with what I've said

Where have I "attacked a religious person"?

Apparently you miss a big part of what's said because I ask those sorts of questions all the time.

Pseudo scientific claims can't be proved or disproved using scientific methods which is why they are essentially useless to us. I've never "demanded" someone prove God.

I'm not sure why you feel this would be an exclusively online thing, I post my opinions and people respond, that's how it works.

Why would I go to another religious country only with even less freedom, what kind of sense would that make?

People who believe whatever they've experienced was a ghost haven't considered all the implications that entails, they've been preconditioned through society and have personal biases or agendas, or feel personally offended for even being questioned it might have been something else.

Everything that we currently define as real can be scientifically proven to whatever degree.



-have you ever sat next to someone as they died? No

You felt "something", that means you didn't know what it was, right?

I don't have kids

I don't meditate daily

I've seen things move, under the influence, totally sober, drifting off to sleep and wide awake, there's not enough evidence to conclude anything other than the default position, something didn't move and it was a glitch in the information sent from my eye to my brain, we know that happens, and as far as we know, inanimate objects don't move unless something moves them first

They seem to move because your brain didn't get the necessary amount or set of data provided by your 5 senses, and you perceived it in whatever way you did to make you think the walls were moving



I'm not sure if I believe altruism exists
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"Pseudo scientific claims can't be proved or disproved using scientific methods which is why they are essentially useless to us" - We are constantly developing tools and methods to assist us in the communication, and proof of an afterlife/existence. There is overwhelming proof of ghosts, and I have asked you many times to do your own research. I have offered to help you. Do I believe every claim of ghosts? Of course not. I was an investigator for years and my primary goal was to debunk. In my efforts I have encountered waaaaay too many things that defy any logical explanation. Objects moving before me, countless voices, audible in real time, and later on recorders (intelligent evps are pretty difficult to refute), severe temp spikes (which defy science), EMF spikes, etc.

I am sure a science man, like yourself, believes Thomas Edison was a pretty reasonable inventor and scientist. Did you know he believed in a spirit world and was building a tool for communication before he died? Governments have spent decades and millions of dollars on research. Call it "psuedoscience", but it is science. How can we make progress without trying?

"Everything that we currently define as real can be scientifically proven to whatever degree." - Really?REALLY?



 
ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

Well-Known Member
ClaytonBigsby said:
Ok. You have changed your initial position, but I will let it slide. Are there countires where religion is forced on you? Yes. Do you HAVE TO accept them? No. Is it best to keep those thoughts to yourself there? Yes.


BUT, you are attacking religious people here; in a pot forum. I have never seen you ask them, why they believe what they believe or the origin of their religion. Perhaps if they have seen Zeitgeist, and what are their thoughts on that!? Instead, all I have seen you do is demand that they prove god exists using scientific method. You seek these people out, here, in a pot forum. You start threads on the matter. NOBODY is pushing religion on YOU, here, in a pot forum. Do you really think anyone here, in a pot forum, is going to prove god using scientific method? So, why the fuck do you even care what they believe, when they are NOT "pushing" religion on YOU, here, in a pot forum?

If it bothers you so, why not go to Iran and argue your postition with them? Why not go show them the error in their ways?

You're like a virgin saying sex is overrated, because you have never experienced it. You have never experienced a ghost, or paranormal activity, so you insist it does not happen and demand its proof using scientific method. Do you honestly believe that EVERYTHING that we accept as real can be proven using scientific method? Do you not agree that there are things that are reality, that simply cannot be proven using scientific method? Are are you simply being "willfully ignorant"?
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how else would you decide if something exists if you dont use evidence ? everything else in life you use evidence to make decisions but when it comes down to religion you suddenly thro5w all that out ?
all those things you listed are human emotions , love hate etc etc .
i do believe that the goverment you elected are planning to go to iran and show them the error of there ways or at least they are going to try and persuade them with a few bombs .
what method do use to decide if something is real or not ? you cant go off word of mouth coz you get crazy people say things like " a cup flew off the sideboard , and i know it was the ghost of uncle bob '
ive had strange things happen to me that i cant find a decent explanation for , do i believe in the supernatural ? do i fuck , because allthough i cant find a explanation for it i also cant find any evidence for it being supernatural other than it being unexplained to me .
 
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