Young Mother

Hello. I am looking to start and ebb n flow grow by Friday. I wish to take clones of my mother plant. Green Love potion. My plants is little over 6 weeks I believe(ive haven't been very organised in the date I planted)

Ive read mothers should be between 8 - 10 weeks before taking cuttings. The genetics appear good vegged under a 250w cfl she's developing her 11th node and stands at 10 1/2 inches tall.

Has anyone ever taken a cutting from a mother this young. I want to take 20 which would no doubt leave her bear.

Any input appreciated.

Sorry about multiple pics.

I've cloned tops of plants that have been 4 weeks old without issue.

However I doubt you would get 20 viable clones on that plant.

A viable clone IMO has 3 nodes or more.



J

its plenty developed enough

but when you say mother ? if its a seed plant how do you know its female ? pre flowers .. fem seed ?

if its a clone that came from a female that you have kept as a mother
then you do not need to worry about its size or age as it is as old as the plant it came from when it was taken + its rooting time + its grow time now

peace

It's a fem seed that came free with some herbie seeds I ordered. How many clones do you guys think I could get.

Technically with about 5 days left of growth I thought 20 possible this is however my first attempt.

Thanks for your replies.

Like Jondamon said, a viable clone usually has three nodes. I clone with only two nodes and go straight to my aerocloner.

Either way, you need to clip above a node and still have two for the clone itself so new growth will sprout. Also, you don't want to strip the plant bare either.

I can't tell exactly by those pics, but assuredly you won't get 20 (at least without killing the plant). Why don't you just take the top and a few side clones for now, and set up a perpetual?

On the other hand, if there are 20 viable clippings, you can kill that plant off entirely, and start another mother or two with two of the clones.

-spek

I would say wait 2 weeks then you may get like 12 clones. 20 clones is out of the question completely for at least a month. Honestly I doubt there are even 20 shoots.

perdidobandito said:

I would say wait 2 weeks then you may get like 12 clones. 20 clones is out of the question completely for at least a month. Honestly I doubt there are even 20 shoots.

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Well I see the general consensus is 20 clones isnt viable atleast not without killing the plant. Im abit confused about the 20 shoots. (11x 2 = 22 ) perhaps I misunderstood.
Thank for all your responses and suggestions. I'd rather not wait a month to be honest perhaps two weeks wont hurt.

District said:

Well I see the general consensus is 20 clones isnt viable atleast not without killing the plant. Im abit confused about the 20 shoots. (11x 2 = 22 ) perhaps I misunderstood.
Thank for all your responses and suggestions. I'd rather not wait a month to be honest perhaps two weeks wont hurt.

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22 shoots with 11 nodes yes.

BUT each of those shoots needs to have 3 nodes on it for it to make a viable clone.




J

In simple terms, when those shoots are around 3"-4" in length they can be used as a clone.


J

District said:

Well I see the general consensus is 20 clones isnt viable atleast not without killing the plant. Im abit confused about the 20 shoots. (11x 2 = 22 ) perhaps I misunderstood.
Thank for all your responses and suggestions. I'd rather not wait a month to be honest perhaps two weeks wont hurt.

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I didnt mean every shoot on the plant, i meant shoots big enough to clone right now. I hope you do wait 2 weeks, it will REALLY pay off.

Im with you J. I was just wandering what PB's reasoning was behind his comment.

Perhaps he hadn't read the all of the thread. Thanks again.

Ok Im with you. Sorry as you can see I was posting whilst you was.

Whats an extra 9 days in the grand scheme of things. More learning time.

you need to veg the living hell outta that plant if you want 20 or so clones my friend I count 5 possible clones on the plant you have now if you want more veg more.

Ill put it under an MH tomorrow.

if u wanted her to be a mother u should have topped her a lot a long time ago.

I don't know why it didn't occur to me to top this plant. I'd say 5 is on the low side. I think another 2 weeks may give me 10-12.

Turns out ive only got HPS bulbs. I have another 250W cfl so ill just double up.

Just a closer pic. Going by what people have said I see at this point atleast 10 possible clone sites with 2 nodes. I know your advice is given with good intentions. I wander though does this chanhe anyone's

.....opinion

I've done quite a bit of personal research on just this question. I have a perpetual grow going and need to find strains that clone early and often. I specialize in pure or near-pure indicas because they are the fastest to grow. My results may not match someone else's if the strains are not alike.

My rooted clones are 18-22 inches after 3-4 weeks in dirt vegging. Although these plants are large enough physically to give up clone-size cuttings I don't bother to try to take cuttings so early. But just a week makes a difference. With moms more than 5 weeks old my clone success rate is 90%. Over and over I've taken one prospective mom and taken timed cuttings. Before mom is 4 weeks old virtually no roots. Between 4 and 5 weeks the purer indicas (all non-autos) will root around day 10 in the dome. After moms are 5+ weeks old I'm getting roots from virtually all my clones after 8-10 days in the dome.

Your plant is old enough to throw clones but too young to have side branches large enough to make viable clones. If the side branch/cutting is large enough to show a hole in the middle of the stem -- that's what you want to see. Signifies that the cutting can move water quickly due to the hole. Coming all from the same mom -- the older she is the better chance she will give up healthy clones.

Good luck, BigSteve.