You Can't Afford A One-Bedroom Apartment On Minimum Wage

NoDrama said:

Averages.

One house costs $1 million, the other house costs $1
You only make $5 a day.
On average you cannot afford any of the houses since they cost $500,000.
In reality you can afford it.

The entire argument that people cannot afford housing has been made invalid.
People may not be able to afford the "average" home, but they can still afford a place to live.

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see4 said:

NAFTA was indeed only Mexico, Canada and the United States. Is China, et. al, part of that trade agreement? I never heard that to be the case. We do have trade agreements with China, et. al, however I'm not sure they are part of NAFTA as many assert.

According to this: https://ustr.gov/trade-agreements/free-trade-agreements we have free trade agreements with 20 countries, China not being one of them. Not that China is central to this debate. As far as I know, we don't have an open free trade agreement with China.

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ginwilly said:

...redistribution ... raising taxes ...

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dabadaba said:

Does the current 40 million foreigners here have anything to do with it?
How about another 40 50 million more that the dems are advocating for?
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

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NoDrama said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_favoured_nation

"In the 1990s, continued "most favoured nation" status for the People's Republic of China by the United States created controversy because of its sales of sensitive military technology. China's MFN status was made permanent on December 27, 2001."

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UncleBuck said:

show me an apartment in denver that comes in at 30% of a full time min wage worker's wages then.

go ahead, your hypothetical was so convincing and realistic.

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NoDrama said:

Are you trying to make the claim that if housing costs more than 30% of your wages = you will die of starvation or exposure?

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see4 said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalmyk_cattle

"Kalmyk cattle are red with white markings on the head, belly and legs. They are medium-sized, compact animals with a small head, long face and short horns. There is a well-developed dewlap. Believed to originate from Indian cattle they have a high number of sweat glands, allowing them to endure high summer temperatures, and grow a long thick coat in winter."

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UncleBuck said:

i am only applying time tested, responsible financial practices.

i personally never let rent/mortgage exceed 25% of my wages.

apparently you just failed completely. i guess your completely invented hypothetical was as much for shit as your pile of mushy grey matter is.

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NoDrama said:

are you seeing things again? Tell the doctor to adjust your meds.
Invented hypotheticals is your game, not mine.

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Harrekin said:

With all the deep throating you idiots have given him I wouldve thought that'd be an awfully low number.

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dabadaba said:

you lost the debate

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see4 said:

As this is a thread discussing various attributes and variables of economics, it kind of makes sense, no?

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Padawanbater2 said:

Also, just to clarify, nobody is saying "high tax rates cause economic growth". We are saying "high tax rates don't prevent economic growth"

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UncleBuck said:

classic beenthere, proclaiming that he has won the debate instead of letting his words speak for themselves.

ever clean those shit stains out of your carpet, beenthere?

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ginwilly said:

... feel good policies...stick it to the rich...

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ginwilly said:

...high corporate tax rate...raising those rates....cut our business taxes...living on debt....

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Padawanbater2 said:

Are you opposed to enacting legislation preventing American companies from offshoring jobs?

I find it very odd you believe American companies ship jobs overseas because of the "high" (the fuck?) corporate tax rate instead of the low labor costs

Why didn't American companies like GM, Ford or American Airlines offshore their jobs in the 50's when corporate tax rates were twice as high as they are now?

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dabadaba said:

Props to the Cherokee!

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spandy said:

Where is my trophy then?

You seriously don't see anything wrong in thousands upon thousands entering in a field of study when only hundreds of jobs will be available by the time their education/training is done?

And you used to make the big bucks, LOL.

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