Yesterday's Mass Shooting.

Foxnews not only promotes more guns in American society, they stoke fear and promote action by citizens with those guns. Many of these lunatics have foxnews on all day, like that old fart who shot the kid through the door, foxnews is culpable. The question has to be asked after covid, vaccines, mass murder and J6, is the 1st amendment a suicide pact, or is the 2nd amendment one? Are either of them suicide pacts? Or have they been turned into them? Fascism thrives on chaos and a loss in faith and trust, guns contribute to this mightily and Rupert knows it. Foxnews is killing Americans and has killed tens of thousands of Americans with lies and disinformation used to spread fear and loathing for power and profit, they don't have viewers, they have victims. They are no different than a heroin dealer, getting people hooked and then supplying them with what they think they need.

Time to kill the fox when the democrats gain power and make sure nothing arises to replace it, maybe Trump was right, America needs federal liable laws and if a pattern can be established like with Hillary, then the sky is the limit for civil damages, and it is much easier to sue. We have criminal liable laws in Canada, and they seem to work well and do not limit free honest speech, dishonest speech has an issue though. Here people can be sued in civil court and there can even be criminal penalties of up to 5 years in prison. An example, a couple were accusing police officers of pedophilia in Ontario and stood outside the police station with signs naming officers. They were charged with criminal liable and given two years in prison.


The gun violence epidemic in America

9,923 views Apr 21, 2023 #msnbc #gunviolence #texas
The country is reeling from the shootings of Ralph Yarl, Kaylin Gillis, cheerleaders in Texas and a family in North Carolina, who were all shot for making everyday mistakes. Charles Coleman, Frank Figliuzzi and Ryan Busse join to discuss how gun culture plays into the violence in the U.S., where knocking on the wrong door can be deadly.

Roger A. Shrubber said:

i'm not talking about whether or not they qualify for a legal defense, i'm talking about from a societal, human viewpoint...anyone who would take another persons life in anything less than self defense is fucking crazy. anyone who kills someone over stupid shit they've allowed to influence them is fucking crazy. They are outside normal, socially acceptable behavior, by a large margin and in a dramatic way...That isn't crazy?
do they qualify for being locked up in a mental institution? definitely. Will a prison do? probably not as well, but anything to get them off the streets. the only difference is when you get put in a mental institution, THEY decide when you can go home, not a judge that has no training in mental health.

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Your right Rodger! Using crazy in the context that most do (the weather is crazy today), has nothing to do with the legal term insane, It’s the same as saying “nuts”, not the kick trump in the nuts (I wish I could) but “boy is he nuts” ;(. It’s seems to me that fear has taken over in regards to the gun purchases in a lot of cases. And yup, more guns = more needless death. I would rather see these fuckers put in a regular jail though and for life without parole and never go home, fuck-em!

sweetisland2009 said:

cant wait to here your in depth analysis about this guy. Just look at that record! Considering he is a felon, I wonder what gun laws he was following? I wonder if he was a Christian? For sure NRA member though

Police arrest man who allegedly shot 6-year-old when basketball rolled into yard

A North Carolina man allegedly shot a 6-year-old girl, her parents and an additional neighbor after a basketball rolled into his yard.

abcnews.go.com

Robert Louis Singletary, wanted in shooting of NC family, was arrested for alleged sledgehammer assault

Robert Louis Singletary, who remains on the run after allegedly shooting a six-year-old and her parents was previously arrested for allegedly attacking his girlfriend.

nypost.com

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I wonder how he got a gun, easy I suppose plenty laying around with no laws governing safe storage, or regulations around who can buy one, if not in your state, the one next door, no ID required, it's not like they were voting. If 35% of Americans own a gun, then every third house they break into while people are at work will have a gun. Access is not an issue for terrorists in America, they can climb off the plane in Texas and go to the nearest gun shop and be armed to the teeth inside an hour and be slaughtering Americas the same day, with a plan they could kill hundreds, if not more. So don't piss anybody off because one day they could come calling, well-armed. There are plenty of good reasons to regulate guns and reduce their number and almost none for keeping things the way they are now.

One simple thing the democrats can do is roll back the protections the republicans gave gunmakers and others from lawsuits. The same product safety rules will apply as with other things and make gun manufacturers, distributers and retailers liable for the damage these products cause, they should be treated no differently than other consumer products. Soon no guns would be made in America and a ban on importing them will be imposed too, it won't cause too many ripples, except among those who would never vote democratic anyway, most people wouldn't know about it or care if they did.


Paying a price: How civil suits could 'drive up the cost' of gun violence

18,260 views Apr 22, 2023 #msnbc #gunviolence #alexjones
As gun violence continues to be an urgent threat to life in America, MSNBC’s Ali Velshi speaks to Chris Mattei, lead trial counsel for the Sandy Hook Families, about how they were able to obtain a measure of a accountability by filing civil suits gun maker Remington and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, who made money spreading lies about the attack.

DIY-HP-LED said:

One simple thing the democrats can do is roll back the protections the republicans gave gunmakers and others from lawsuits. The same product safety rules will apply as with other things and make gun manufacturers, distributers and retailers liable for the damage these products cause, they should be treated no differently than other consumer products. Soon no guns would be made in America and a ban on importing them will be imposed too, it won't cause too many ripples, except among those who would never vote democratic anyway, most people wouldn't know about it or care if they did.

Paying a price: How civil suits could 'drive up the cost' of gun violence

18,260 views Apr 22, 2023 #msnbc #gunviolence #alexjones
As gun violence continues to be an urgent threat to life in America, MSNBC’s Ali Velshi speaks to Chris Mattei, lead trial counsel for the Sandy Hook Families, about how they were able to obtain a measure of a accountability by filing civil suits gun maker Remington and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, who made money spreading lies about the attack.

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Remington/insurance company was not sued for the actual harm the gun caused but how they marketed it. I find it hard to fathom how the gun itself could be held liable just as a car is not when it is driven through pedestrians on a crowded sidewalk. It would be an interesting case though.

Budley Doright said:

Remington/insurance company was not sued for the actual harm the gun caused but how they marketed it. I find it hard to fathom how the gun itself could be held liable just as a car is not when it is driven through pedestrians on a crowded sidewalk. It would be an interesting case though.

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Well, a car isn't DESIGNED to drive over pedestrians on sidewalks.
A handgun is designed to kill motherfuckers. A few are designed to shoot targets, and kill motherfuckers, a few are designed to do a shitty fucking job replacing a rifle,and kill motherfuckers....you see the central theme?

Roger A. Shrubber said:

Well, a car isn't DESIGNED to drive over pedestrians on sidewalks.
A handgun is designed to kill motherfuckers. A few are designed to shoot targets, and kill motherfuckers, a few are designed to do a shitty fucking job replacing a rifle,and kill motherfuckers....you see the central theme?

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as for the car, with the right mods …



or this more focused machine

I’ve compiled a list of things you can’t kill another human being with….






I should have listed them in path of least resistance. It’s the human, not the tool. I’m certain there were zero murders before the invention of the gun. (Insert sarcasm here)

DoubleAtotheRON said:

I’ve compiled a list of things you can’t kill another human being with….






I should have listed them in path of least resistance. It’s the human, not the tool. I’m certain there were zero murders before the invention of the gun. (Insert sarcasm here)

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DoubleAtotheRON said:

I’ve compiled a list of things you can’t kill another human being with….






I should have listed them in path of least resistance. It’s the human, not the tool. I’m certain there were zero murders before the invention of the gun. (Insert sarcasm here)

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I’m sure our forefathers envisioned high speed ammo and weapons designed to kill as many humans as possible in the least amount of time
Amirite?
Oops

Another foxnews viewer and wingnut, freaking out because someone, probably black, drove into their driveway, an offense worthy of instant legal execution in Florida. You can't do it if you are black and they are white though, then stand your ground doesn't apply much to black people, at least according to the statistics.

Herb & Suds said:

I’m sure our forefathers envisioned high speed ammo and weapons designed to kill as many humans as possible in the least amount of time
Amirite?
Oops

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there was that full-auto spear found in a pile of 27-thousand-year-old sabertooth gerbil bones …

DoubleAtotheRON said:

I’ve compiled a list of things you can’t kill another human being with….






I should have listed them in path of least resistance. It’s the human, not the tool. I’m certain there were zero murders before the invention of the gun. (Insert sarcasm here)

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List the gun control measures you would like to see implemented?

DoubleAtotheRON said:

I’ve compiled a list of things you can’t kill another human being with….






I should have listed them in path of least resistance. It’s the human, not the tool. I’m certain there were zero murders before the invention of the gun. (Insert sarcasm here)

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sarcasm doesn't suit you...
especially since you use it so poorly.
yes, people do kill people, sometimes bare handed, sometimes with a toilet brush, sometimes with a screwdriver or a hammer...but none of those things were designed to take human lives, as quickly as you can pull a trigger, and that is exactly what handguns are designed to do..you use your to hunt bears? so fucking what? get a rifle like a normal person. you use yours to shoot targets? so fucking what? there isn't one person on the entire planet whose feels are as important as one school kid's life, and until you can guarantee these weapons made for murder won't be used for the purpose they are made for, then they ought to be strictly controlled.

this proves, among other things, that republicans are just as fucking full of shit as we've always assumed they are.
Of course, they'll commission their own study, conducted by the "guys who love the second amendment center"...which will have clearly, stupidly wrong data, and then "refute" the actual accurate study with it, kind of like clowns trying to tell you a pie pan full of shaving cream is a coconut cream pie...right before they hit you in the face with it.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/04/23/surprising-geography-of-gun-violence-00092413

DoubleAtotheRON said:

I’ve compiled a list of things you can’t kill another human being with….






I should have listed them in path of least resistance. It’s the human, not the tool. I’m certain there were zero murders before the invention of the gun. (Insert sarcasm here)

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Just remember, if you don't give a fuck about the slaughter in the towns and cities, then when it comes time to implement gun control, they won't give a fuck about you, and your misconceived rights. In the end your rights are those your fellow citizens give you and the 2nd is no better at stopping it as a sheet of toilet paper is for stopping a bullet. The NRA and gun nuts brought you to this point and when the republicans lose power, they will lose it for a long time. It will start slow, but with each mass murder and election cycle the restrictions will increase, sooner or later guns have got to go in America. It happened everywhere else where there is a functioning democracy, the only exceptions being a very well-regulated militia, like in Switzerland and even in most of those place's guns are kept in local secure armories.

The GOP is headed for electoral disaster in 24 and once they are down, they will be kept down by removing foxnews from the air and cable, and by passing HR1, voting rights and other anti-fascist legislation. I would expect the first measures taken on guns will be mild but will progress over time. The republicans are doing much to keep themselves down too with their fruitcake policies, election denial, anti-constitutional attitude, and lunatic candidates, all the while being led by a criminal loser who is on his way down.

Shooting people for approaching your door seems to be a thing now. I wonder if this will have any impact on Jehovah’s Witness recruitment.

CunningCanuk said:

Shooting people for approaching your door seems to be a thing now. I wonder if this will have any impact on Jehovah’s Witness recruitment.

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one of the church’s creeds involves putting on a complete suit of armor. Might have to stop being figurative.

cannabineer said:

one of the church’s creeds involves putting on a complete suit of armor. Might have to stop being figurative.

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My memory has never been that great, but wasn't that suit of armor supposed to have no back to it? Because a warrior for gawd never retreats?
NM, i forgot we were talking about JW's...no fucking idea what they actually believe...some shit a nutter wrote in a personal journal while tripping on bread mold, as far as i've been able to tell.
or was that some other gawd cult? it's hard for me to keep them all separate, one psychotic zealot is pretty much like all the other psychotic zealots.