Will You Take The Vaccine?
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printer
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Or, "And lose my freedom?"
DIY-HP-LED
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Freedom to fall, freedom to fail and freedumb to die.
Maybe someone should sell morgue toe tags with "I sure owned the libs" and other pithy statements printed on them. People could give them to their antivaxxer relatives and friends as gifts...
OldMedUser
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It's not the vaccine causing the shingles but that people who got the vaccine 50 years ago and never had the actual disease have a weaker level of antibodies thus are more likely to get shingles later in life as their immune system declines and the ever present virus flares up on nerve endings in the skin. Chicken pox is in the same family as herpes so once you have it you never get rid of it.
That's not to say that you can't get shingles if you had the real disease but it's much less likely from what I'd read at the time and made me decide that the shingles vaccine wasn't for me..
If I had any links they would be on my old hard drive that bit the bullet a few years ago. Lost a lot of good stuff in that crash. All my music CDs I'd spent countless hours ripping into MP3s, home videos on VCR converted to MP4s and hundreds of pirated games and software collected over the decades. Was a near new Seagate drive that had a software fault that caused it to lock up after so many starts and stops. Under warranty so I returned it and got it back with a new circuit board and new warranty but everything on it was gone. They warrant the drive but not it's contents.
Budley Doright
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Read my question again, “very carefully”, please lol.
Budley Doright
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I am aware of everything you’ve stated just not the part about the pox vaccine making shingles more likely than the actual virus but thanks, I’ll keep researching that part.It's not the vaccine causing the shingles but that people who got the vaccine 50 years ago and never had the actual disease have a weaker level of antibodies thus are more likely to get shingles later in life as their immune system declines and the ever present virus flares up on nerve endings in the skin. Chicken pox is in the same family as herpes so once you have it you never get rid of it.
That's not to say that you can't get shingles if you had the real disease but it's much less likely from what I'd read at the time and made me decide that the shingles vaccine wasn't for me..
If I had any links they would be on my old hard drive that bit the bullet a few years ago. Lost a lot of good stuff in that crash. All my music CDs I'd spent countless hours ripping into MP3s, home videos on VCR converted to MP4s and hundreds of pirated games and software collected over the decades. Was a near new Seagate drive that had a software fault that caused it to lock up after so many starts and stops. Under warranty so I returned it and got it back with a new circuit board and new warranty but everything on it was gone. They warrant the drive but not it's contents.
printer
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The virus does not flair up in the skin, actually in the spinal column where the virus lays dormant. The nerve ending throughout your body goes to the spine where the signal is passed along to the nerves going up to the brain. There is a sort of interface at the spine where there is a volume control of sorts. The volume gets turned up when you are sick, you know the crappy feeling you get all over your body when you get the Flu? That is the body's way of getting you off your feet.It's not the vaccine causing the shingles but that people who got the vaccine 50 years ago and never had the actual disease have a weaker level of antibodies thus are more likely to get shingles later in life as their immune system declines and the ever present virus flares up on nerve endings in the skin. Chicken pox is in the same family as herpes so once you have it you never get rid of it.
That's not to say that you can't get shingles if you had the real disease but it's much less likely from what I'd read at the time and made me decide that the shingles vaccine wasn't for me..
If I had any links they would be on my old hard drive that bit the bullet a few years ago. Lost a lot of good stuff in that crash. All my music CDs I'd spent countless hours ripping into MP3s, home videos on VCR converted to MP4s and hundreds of pirated games and software collected over the decades. Was a near new Seagate drive that had a software fault that caused it to lock up after so many starts and stops. Under warranty so I returned it and got it back with a new circuit board and new warranty but everything on it was gone. They warrant the drive but not it's contents.
So I am hesitant getting the shingles vaccine because my current lifelong illness has this interface all messed up already. If I do not watch everything I do I get the equivalent of shingles and it can start in one place and spread all over my body. I do not get the physical manifestation of shingles, just the pain.
OldMedUser
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It might have been at NaturalNews.com where I read about this stuff. I used to be on there a lot until they seemed to go full-bore ReTrumplikan and it got harder to wade thru the rhetoric Mike was spewing
DIY-HP-LED
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DIY-HP-LED
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I had a Pfizer then a Moderna 10 weeks later, I had a slightly sore arm for a couple of days, went to bed early and got up for a whiz with splitting headache, back to sleep. Took a bit of energy out of me for a few days and I felt slightly head achy for a bit the next day, but nothing too bad at all. Everybody is different though and it's a crap shoot, if you've had covid, before, it could be quite intense. Smoking pot could even blunt the immune response a bit to help.
DIY-HP-LED
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As Fox News changes some of its messaging on the coronavirus vaccine and Dr. Anthony Fauci, CNN's Jim Acosta calls out the network's delay in giving the truth to its viewers.
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Ozumoz66
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Stress would definitely have been a contributing factor to getting shingles. I blame myself for not having enough balance in my life between work and pleasure. OCD isn't always a super power.
Puke - second last time I did that was in 1992 after coming home from a Buffalo Sabres hockey game. The evidence in the bath tub would lay blame on the hot chicken wings (that I didn't order) - of course she thought otherwise - goner!
Thanks for that, been meaning to ask you about it. They said the same thing about the response if you've had Covid. Hadn't heard that before, but we're all good there.
PJ Diaz
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WHO warns individuals against mixing and matching COVID vaccines
The World Health Organization's chief scientist has advised individualsagainst mixing and matching COVID-19 vaccines from different manufacturers, saying such decisions should be left to public health authorities.
CunningCanuk
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You don’t think it could be advantageous to consider the research done by a rodeo clown?