Will You Take The Vaccine?

Good news for the vaccinated, very bad news for the unvaccinated, the vaccinated can still get mild or asymptomatic cases of covid. This is probably undercounted, since a fully vaccinated person with a sniffles is unlikely to line up for testing.
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Pfizer Shot Halts Severe Illness, Allows Infection in Israel

• Vaccine protects against hospitalization versus delta strain
• Variant has been infecting vaccinated people across world

Pfizer Inc.’s Covid-19 vaccine provided a strong shield against hospitalization and more severe disease in cases caused by the contagious delta variant in Israel in recent weeks, even though it was just 39% effective in preventing infections, according to the country’s health ministry.

The vaccine, developed with BioNTech SE, provided 88% protection against hospitalization and 91% against severe illness for an unspecified number of people studied between June 20 and July 17, according to a report Thursday from the health ministry.

The data could be skewed because of different ways of testing vaccinated groups of people versus those who hadn’t been inoculated, according to the report.

“The heavily skewed exposure patterns in the recent outbreak in Israel, which are limited to specific population sectors and localities,” means the analysis may not be able to take all factors into account, said Ran Balicer, chairman of Israel’s national expert advisory team on Covid-19 response. “We are trying to complement this research approach with additional ones, taking additional personal characteristics into account. But this takes time and larger case numbers.”

Still, the data are likely to fuel debate over whether booster shots should be given to people who’ve already been vaccinated -- something Pfizer has said it plans to request in the U.S. Israeli authorities said earlier this month they’ll only give a third round of shots to people with weakened immune systems.
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mooray said:

Bummer that your country has to force people to be halfway responsible, we just let the idiots run amok over here and make everything worse.

Also, I think passports are for entering/exiting a country.

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Passports are the names the media give them, lol I do know what a passport is

I don't know about the UK, but over here it's only a certain type(drooling rednecks) that uses such hyperbole.

A typical victim of disinformation and bullshit.
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'Just get the stupid shot': Unvaccinated mom who got Covid-19 speaks out

After choosing not to get the Covid-19 vaccine, Ganeene Starling ended up in the ICU with coronavirus and was given a 20% chance of survival by doctors. Starling speaks with CNN's Randi Kaye about her experience.

I don't care, do you.

captainmorgan said:

I don't care, do you.

Man Who Tweeted About Having ‘99 Problems but a Vax Ain’t One’ Dies of COVID

Hillsong Church, where Stephen Harmon was a member, announced his death Thursday.

www.thedailybeast.com

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Now he has no problems.

captainmorgan said:

I don't care, do you.

Man Who Tweeted About Having ‘99 Problems but a Vax Ain’t One’ Dies of COVID

Hillsong Church, where Stephen Harmon was a member, announced his death Thursday.

www.thedailybeast.com

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He sure did own the libs though! Sacrifices have to be made for the "cause". Maybe one of those 99 problems he had was telling truth from bullshit and dealing with facts.

The Delta Variant ‘Is 200x More Contagious Than The Original Variant’

NBC News correspondent Antonia Hylton, epidemiologist Dr. Anne Rimoin, and Washington Post national correspondent Philip Bump react to growing fears about the rapidly spreading delta variant and how some in Republican leadership are starting to urge their supporters to get vaccinated.

mooray said:

Also, I think passports are for entering/exiting a country.

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If you were 400 years older you’d think they are solely for leaving a seaport. Fuck those rednecks for using proper English as hyperboles lol. There’s no negative connotation implied in corona/covid passport on this side of the pond. That’s just what it is, an access pass.

Ozumoz66 said:

When I had it about 7 years ago, it started out on my chest, about the size of a dime. Then it appeared to travel up to my right shoulder, down to my elbow, then back up to my shoulder (along tricep) and on to my right shoulder blade. It stopped at the shoulder blade and was about the size of my palm. It was an intense burning sensation, like a hot knife piercing it and a mad dog coming along and biting it for good measure. It lasted for a couple weeks. I consumed the most weed ever during this time.

There is a bit of post herpetic neuralgia on my shoulder blade, just out of reach from both hands to scratch. So a telescopic scratcher is used instead.

I can't imagine getting it on your face or panty line.

When I see my doctor again, I'll enquire as to whether I should get the shingles vaccine.

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From everything I've been able to find most of the cases of shingles are with folks who got the chickenpox vaccine as kids and never had real chickenpox so their antibodies are weaker than folks like me who had the real deal. I'm going to pass on the shingles vaccine. Arm long list of possible side effects don't tilt my risk/benefit scale to the benefit side like the Covid vaccine did. Same with flu shots. Never had one of those and don't recall having anything like the flu in the last 20 - 30 years.

OldMedUser said:

From everything I've been able to find most of the cases of shingles are with folks who got the chickenpox vaccine as kids and never had real chickenpox so their antibodies are weaker than folks like me who had the real deal. I'm going to pass on the shingles vaccine. Arm long list of possible side effects don't tilt my risk/benefit scale to the benefit side like the Covid vaccine did. Same with flu shots. Never had one of those and don't recall having anything like the flu in the last 20 - 30 years.

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Can you provide the link that refers to the vaccine causing it. I am going to research it to death but I have yet to find a link to the vaccine just the pox virus itself.

I had chickenpox as a kid and got shingles in my mid 50's, one spot the size of a pingpong ball on my chest, painful but not that bad.

captainmorgan said:

I had chickenpox as a kid and got shingles in my mid 50's, one spot the size of a pingpong ball on my chest, painful but not that bad.

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My uncle just got it and it was pretty bad so it got me a think’n lol. First I’ve heard that the vaccine was the culprit though.

mooray said:

Bummer that your country has to force people to be halfway responsible, we just let the idiots run amok over here and make everything worse.

Also, I think passports are for entering/exiting a country.

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no dear, it's the 'honor' system.

OldMedUser said:

From everything I've been able to find most of the cases of shingles are with folks who got the chickenpox vaccine as kids and never had real chickenpox so their antibodies are weaker than folks like me who had the real deal. I'm going to pass on the shingles vaccine. Arm long list of possible side effects don't tilt my risk/benefit scale to the benefit side like the Covid vaccine did. Same with flu shots. Never had one of those and don't recall having anything like the flu in the last 20 - 30 years.

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i had late chickenpox freshman year of high school. i can get shingles yearly depending on stress. it's always in the same place; left neck one on top of the other and looks like a vampire bite. i tried the shingrex vaccine and holy hell broke loose for 24 hours starting with vomiting directly from the medical complex had to have the car driver stop so i could puke out the door.

needless to say, i didn't get #2 which is supposed to be worse.

Budley Doright said:

Can you provide the link that refers to the vaccine causing it. I am going to research it to death but I have yet to find a link to the vaccine just the pox virus itself.

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me; i'm your link and this happened this year which is why i was concerned about COVID shot.

Sativied said:

If you were 400 years older you’d think they are solely for leaving a seaport. Fuck those rednecks for using proper English as hyperboles lol. There’s no negative connotation implied in corona/covid passport on this side of the pond. That’s just what it is, an access pass.

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you should have to live with these crazy white people..

DIY-HP-LED said:

A typical victim of disinformation and bullshit.
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'Just get the stupid shot': Unvaccinated mom who got Covid-19 speaks out

After choosing not to get the Covid-19 vaccine, Ganeene Starling ended up in the ICU with coronavirus and was given a 20% chance of survival by doctors. Starling speaks with CNN's Randi Kaye about her experience.

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does she at anytime take the oxygen off for a smoke?